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Best Bi Geek Squid posted:im sorry to interrupt this mac pro chat but I just had a stroke of genius You're hired
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Best Bi Geek Squid posted:im sorry to interrupt this mac pro chat but I just had a stroke of genius they should call it the mac mini
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Jun 4, 2019 17:53
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it's not really that small, it's basically a last gen macbook pro chipset and jony's shiny videos have shown us that a macbook motherboard is like the size of 2 business cards they could make it smaller but tim wants spinny drives and to not change tooling because he's cheap qirex fucked around with this message at 18:04 on Jun 4, 2019 |
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Jun 4, 2019 17:57
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Jun 4, 2019 18:01
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qirex posted:it's not really that small, it's basically a last gen macbook pro chipset and jony's shiny videos have shown us that a macbook motherboard is like the size of 2 business cards no spinny drive option on the mini. probably tooling as you say. that and gotta fit the heatsink somewhere
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Jun 4, 2019 18:21
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Generic Monk posted:no spinny drive option on the mini. probably tooling as you say. that and gotta fit the heatsink somewhere the psu probably generates more heat than the processor but I'd rather have the current case with the internal power supply over yet another brick
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Jun 4, 2019 18:26
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what are the advantages of the 6k $6000 Apple monitor as compared to the 8k $3900 dell monitor?
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Jun 4, 2019 18:31
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Vomik posted:what are the advantages of the 6k $6000 Apple monitor as compared to the 8k $3900 dell monitor? $2100 more to apple and not dell?
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Jun 4, 2019 18:33
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Vomik posted:what are the advantages of the 6k $6000 Apple monitor as compared to the 8k $3900 dell monitor? get to pay a thousand bucks for a display stand and 300 for a vesa mount
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Jun 4, 2019 18:33
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Vomik posted:what are the advantages of the 6k $6000 Apple monitor as compared to the 8k $3900 dell monitor? presumably some calibration specs and maybe certifications? afaik we don't know all that much about the thing, i'd presume they are buying the panels from someone (while apple does research on display tech themselves i sort of doubt the first outing will be in this category), so best to wait until people have their hands on them and can both measure and peek inside.
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Jun 4, 2019 18:41
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qirex posted:it's not really that small, it's basically a last gen macbook pro chipset and jony's shiny videos have shown us that a macbook motherboard is like the size of 2 business cards having taken apart a 2018 mini just a few weeks ago, i'd beg to differ:  and yes. i am doing this on a towel. yolo. apple charges $600 CAD for boosting it from 8 GB to 32 GB of RAM or i can just buy the RAM myself and then save myself $400
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Jun 4, 2019 18:41
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Jun 4, 2019 18:42
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Vomik posted:what are the advantages of the 6k $6000 Apple monitor as compared to the 8k $3900 dell monitor? more holes goddamn can you imagine how many loving tweetdeck columns you can fit on 6 6k monitors? phwoar!!! the future is here
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Jun 4, 2019 18:44
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does the dell use local array dimming? This is the first time I've heard of it being used on a computer monitor. the more zones you do the more heat it creates which is why it has all the speed holes
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Jun 4, 2019 18:49
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like, none of it will matter terribly much and i expect modern apple will continue to be pretty clowshoes, *but* the mac pro and the display xdr may very well be good value for a certain segment, we'll see when the real details arrive. apple has the clout to get good deals on components and manufacturing after all, and they may not have entirely forgotten the value of having halo products that the fans think are cool despite never buying them. at least it was interesting news, whereas i stopped paying attention to anything about iphones a couple of gens ago.
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Jun 4, 2019 18:50
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taking apart a mac mini in 2018 is just as painful as the last time i did it in 2010
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Jun 4, 2019 18:51
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Scionix posted:I think the 200 dollar VESA adapter is more insulting than the stand, tbh I think the most insulting thing is that it's an extra grand for the matte version. At least Apple is finally admitting matte is better
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Jun 4, 2019 18:51
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tbf the 1600nits peak brightness is incredibly impressive but also means you'd have to be loving nuts to work on that display in an office setting they're actually using "code looks great in vertical mode!" (like on any other pivoting monitor) as a selling point when it's loving pointless to buy this if your job isn't mastering 4k hdr content for streaming services of course akadajet posted:clearly, you don't know apple fan dads. it's no different than buying an alienware tower to play fortnite I guess
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Jun 4, 2019 18:52
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Lain Iwakura posted:having taken apart a 2018 mini just a few weeks ago, i'd beg to differ: It seems like using a towel could cause ESD issues?  E: Or lint.
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Jun 4, 2019 18:55
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Ruffian Price posted:every blue checkmark Apple Commentator is gonna have one of these and use it in 300nit mode so they don't go blind anyway
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Scott Baio Nudes posted:alienware is still a thing? it's a dell subsidiary now
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Jun 4, 2019 18:58
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Wait they took out the 2.5" SATA space (without at least putting in a second PCIe)? 
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Jun 4, 2019 19:10
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Schadenboner posted:It seems like using a towel could cause ESD issues? i used can air before i put it back since i had that same thought
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Jun 4, 2019 19:13
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Vomik posted:what are the advantages of the 6k $6000 Apple monitor as compared to the 8k $3900 dell monitor? Dell selling a better product at a lower price isn't new
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Jun 4, 2019 19:19
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an Intel nuc (at least the cube one) is much smaller than a Mac mini and has easily accessible and replaceable RAM and storage slots. the mini is just embarrassing in comparison.
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Jun 4, 2019 19:50
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I'd guess they had multiple ideas for a new case but tim vetoed it because he's cheap
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Jun 4, 2019 19:54
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rip tile https://appleinsider.com/articles/19/06/04/early-find-my-code-appears-to-back-reports-of-tile-style-tag-tracker does anyone run a pool of how many companies apple will kill off at each wwdc?
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Jun 4, 2019 19:55
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The Management posted:an Intel nuc (at least the cube one) is much smaller than a Mac mini and has easily accessible and replaceable RAM and storage slots. the mini is just embarrassing in comparison. don't these frequently fail
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Jun 4, 2019 20:00
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Vomik posted:I’m not a believer that Apple is out to save everyone or whatever. they’re still a profit driven company therefore can’t be trusted, BUT it’s a million times better than google or Facebook owning the SSO process across websites so it’s a step in the right direction. Apple doesn’t make money from user data. that’s not their business model. therefore, holding user data is all downside to them (PR disaster if it is exploited) and no upside. it is a liability. if they wanted your data, they could have all of it because they write the OS. they don’t need to invent logging in with Apple to get at it. customers want privacy and Apple wants to sell it to them. loving over their competitors is an added bonus.
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Jun 4, 2019 20:01
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:mac pro and the display xdr may very well be good value for a certain segment there are so few people whose work actually requires equipment like this that it's irrelevant. apple's target market for these devices is people who don't need anything more than a mac mini.
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Jun 4, 2019 20:02
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Endless Mike posted:don't these frequently fail I don’t know, I’m sure they do because intel is bad at consumer hardware. that has little to do with the form factor, though. the tall boy can fit a 2.5” hard drive and 2 m.2 devices, and a user can add those in 5 minutes without disassembling the CPU fan or breaking the radio BNC connectors.
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Jun 4, 2019 20:05
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Endless Mike posted:don't these frequently fail yeah, they're designed for people switching from a mac to a pc so they want to match the experience as much as possible
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Jun 4, 2019 20:11
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the monitor is gimmicky and stupid. with 10 bit color you can do hdr or p3/rec.2020 but not both so "xdr" is probably just p3 with the brightness jacked way up. or you're not getting accurate color representation if you've got hdr enabled? the $20k reference monitors they compared it to have way more color reference modes and hardware calibration. it's actual competition is $3k monitors from eizo and sony they'll prob still sell a bunch to amateurs who want to play pro tho
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Jun 4, 2019 20:12
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Endless Mike posted:don't these frequently fail they've had poo poo qa on a few generations and it seems a lot like intel has no interest in supporting them, but to the extent that they work they're a decent sff design
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Jun 4, 2019 20:25
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Endless Mike posted:don't these frequently fail
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lol https://twitter.com/felix_schwarz/status/1135805778756034561
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I have a nuc I play around with. I’ve never had any problems but dunno if I’m just lucky. I will say the graphic card (despite being amd) with the six core i7 + user upgradable ram + a Samsung ssd means it was ultra cheap to build (less than 1500?) while out performing the Mac mini.
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