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King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

The video arcade made me what I am today!



Arcsquad12 posted:

Just curious. The first one was by Obsidian so I wondered if they were involved. Can't imagine why people might be curious if a sequel to a game by a developer they like is being made by the same team.

S'okay, I wasn't really directing that at you but most of the time when people ask that about FBW their follow-up is "Oh okay, Obsidian was the only reason I even played the first". And that's just weird.

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Trash Trick
Apr 17, 2014



King Vidiot posted:

Nope.

Also why do people keep asking this? I mean I love some of Obsidian's games (or just one really, Fallout New Vegas), but I've seen people say they refuse to play this new game because Obsidian didn't make it. It doesn't matter, it's the same engine, it's a lot of the same assets except for new ones probably designed by Parker and Stone, other than the combat system it plays the same, and Trey Parker and Matt Stone are the writers, directors and general creative team still.

the people who make games doesn't matter, it's the same engine and some of the writers are the same so who cares!

what

I was looking forward to this particularly because of the changes to the combat but it's sounding like it's all ludicrously easy and the combat is monotonous and lacks any sort of challenge. Can anyone confirm this please.

socialsecurity
Aug 30, 2003


Waltzing Along posted:

I really think Matt & Trey need to go back and rewatch the show from the beginning so they can see why it was so great. It really amounts to kids getting up to and over their heads in adult situations that they don't really understand. Now the kids are basically adults and a lot of the humor is gone now.

You'll never see them confused about a used tampon any more. Or having never seen a porno or even knowing about one. Now they pretend to be trans or make extended take music videos to stop bullying. It's way too based on whatever is going on than just about stories.

Kids evolve with time the internet has made them more aware then before.

Supreme Allah
Oct 6, 2004

working from home


Nap Ghost

About an hour in and love it. The combat already seems more refined and the tutorials seem easier to follow, one of the big flaws of the 1st one.


garfield hentai posted:

What are people doing for classes? I went with ranged and elemental and I'm liking it although I hope I have the option to respec later on and try other stuff out.

Speedster 1st play through


King Vidiot posted:

Nope.

Also why do people keep asking this? I mean I love some of Obsidian's games (or just one really, Fallout New Vegas), but I've seen people say they refuse to play this new game because Obsidian didn't make it. It doesn't matter, it's the same engine, it's a lot of the same assets except for new ones probably designed by Parker and Stone, other than the combat system it plays the same, and Trey Parker and Matt Stone are the writers, directors and general creative team still.

Obsidian was responsible for the worst parts of the first game, the combat was so badly unbalanced even Matt & Trey openly made fun of it. Kyle's default special broke every encounter, for one of a thousand things.

'The people that ruined the 1st game aren't involved?? PASS!'

Vakal
May 11, 2008


I just hope this game has an optional post game boss or something. The first game was pretty sparse on stuff like that.

precision
May 7, 2006

Gonna have me some good friends around
Gonna have me some good times in town




ihatepants posted:

Oh my God. When you put the correct password to the basement door in the beginning of the game without looking for the clue for it first.

Cartman appears on top right of the screen dressed up like Bill Belichick with a headset and a Patriots hoodie and says “Hey, Tom Brady. You wanna play the game or do you just wanna be known as a smug cheating bitch for the rest of your life?

this happened to me and i bust out laughing

i'm just now starting the "real" part of the game and it's already amazing. i'm starting to think matt and trey should just do video games full time. the new combat system seems really dope

e: do artifacts just give you permanent bonuses? there's no Inventory tab for them

precision fucked around with this message at 01:45 on Oct 18, 2017

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011



Trash Trick posted:

the people who make games doesn't matter, it's the same engine and some of the writers are the same so who cares!

what

I was looking forward to this particularly because of the changes to the combat but it's sounding like it's all ludicrously easy and the combat is monotonous and lacks any sort of challenge. Can anyone confirm this please.

it's pretty simplistic once you get the hang of it but I've had some challenges so far.

precision
May 7, 2006

Gonna have me some good friends around
Gonna have me some good times in town




how do you know if you achieve "mastery" of a toilet?

e: so i guess you can get infinite money by just pooping a lot and selling the poop? lmao

precision fucked around with this message at 02:12 on Oct 18, 2017

TopHatGenius
Oct 3, 2008

something feels
different


Hot Rope Guy

Ugh I have the game sitting on my desktop taunting me but I promised my wife I would wait for her before I played. (She's a HUGE South Park fan - waay more then I am).

MazelTovCocktail
Jun 23, 2012

Gritty's gonna cut you.


ihatepants posted:

Oh my God. When you put the correct password to the basement door in the beginning of the game without looking for the clue for it first.

Cartman appears on top right of the screen dressed up like Bill Belichick with a headset and a Patriots hoodie and says “Hey, Tom Brady. You wanna play the game or do you just wanna be known as a smug cheating bitch for the rest of your life?

Fuuucccckkkkkk I need a clip of that

ihatepants
Nov 5, 2011

Let the burning of pants commence. These things drive me nuts.




MazelTovCocktail posted:

Fuuucccckkkkkk I need a clip of that

Here you go, I uploaded it for you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2RIUetSf5o

precision
May 7, 2006

Gonna have me some good friends around
Gonna have me some good times in town




pro tip: stand around doing nothing anytime you're doing something for/with Cartman

also in his basement at the beginning keep punching the Rubix Cube

SLICK GOKU BABY
Jun 12, 2001

A Little Known FACT: Burger King's Bacon King is superior to the Baconator.


precision posted:

pro tip: stand around doing nothing anytime you're doing something for/with Cartman

also in his basement at the beginning keep punching the Rubix Cube

Nooooooooo

BexGu
Jan 9, 2004

This fucking day....

How long into the game until you can change your starting class?

MazelTovCocktail
Jun 23, 2012

Gritty's gonna cut you.



Hahahahaha. Thank you so much.

ihatepants
Nov 5, 2011

Let the burning of pants commence. These things drive me nuts.




BexGu posted:

How long into the game until you can change your starting class?

You can change it after you first choose by sitting in the chair in Cartman’s basement again.

precision
May 7, 2006

Gonna have me some good friends around
Gonna have me some good times in town




I hope I didn't accidentally bug the Goth quest? I did the first step, and one of them let me take a selfie with him, but he wasn't added as a follower. I'm guessing you get all of them as followers once you actually finish their questline?

Rookersh
Aug 19, 2010


King Vidiot posted:

S'okay, I wasn't really directing that at you but most of the time when people ask that about FBW their follow-up is "Oh okay, Obsidian was the only reason I even played the first". And that's just weird.

As one of those people, it's not that weird.

South Park is probably still hugely popular, but for me and most of my friends we fell off hard way way back in the earlier seasons after we got out of High School. And that was 90% of the people in the original SoT thread, people saying "Yeah South Park is dumb now, but I like Obsidian." or "I haven't watched South Park in ages, but Obsidian makes this interesting enough to grab." style stuff.

Not because Obsidian is the key here, but because the attaching of an actual dev team to the product makes it more interesting. South Park like most to games things has a pretty sordid history.

The loss of Obsidian isn't a defining "eh" factor, but uh.

Having Ubisoft come out and say they are dropping Obsidian because they are too expensive and are doing this inhouse is a bad sign. Obsidian isn't super expensive, so uh.

Having it get delayed 4-5 times, for over a year was a bad sign.

Having zero previews/anything resembling gameplay show up was a bad sign.

It just seemed like Ubisoft was either being forced to do a sequel and was trying to do it as cheap as possible, or something was going on behind the scenes. And despite the fact I imagine Matt and Trey "wrote" most of SoT, it's really easy to go in assuming that without actual writers/editors/gameplay people to tell them they shouldn't do things xyz way were all attached to Obsidian. I knew this was coming and purposefully ignored it until day of, when a friend told me it's actually pretty good. Because I assumed it was going to be a raging trash fire.

bunky
Aug 29, 2004



precision posted:

I hope I didn't accidentally bug the Goth quest? I did the first step, and one of them let me take a selfie with him, but he wasn't added as a follower. I'm guessing you get all of them as followers once you actually finish their questline?

You need to light the candles before you can add them all as followers. The skill to do that comes pretty soon after.

precision
May 7, 2006

Gonna have me some good friends around
Gonna have me some good times in town




drat this game has a lot less combat than the first one, at least in the beginning, but it seems like every encounter is going to be more tactical now that I've seen what some of your party members can do

Small White Dragon
Nov 23, 2007

No relation.

Trash Trick posted:

the people who make games doesn't matter, it's the same engine and some of the writers are the same so who cares!
It's not the same engine.

Rookersh posted:

Having Ubisoft come out and say they are dropping Obsidian because they are too expensive and are doing this inhouse is a bad sign. Obsidian isn't super expensive, so uh.
So I want to mention here that, unlike SOT, a pretty substantial chunk of the game materials were actually done in-house by the show's crew.

sticksy
May 26, 2004
keeping austin weird





Nap Ghost

Small White Dragon posted:

Just a quick heads up for iOS users - there's a free Fractured But Whole sticker pack in the App Store now.

Cool, thanks for the heads up on this.

Here's the direct link if anyone wants it:
South Park: Fractured Stickers by Viacom International Inc.
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/sou...1294894911?mt=8

precision
May 7, 2006

Gonna have me some good friends around
Gonna have me some good times in town




people are gonna say a lot of angry stupid words about the option to be transgender and what mackey says if you pick that and they'll miss the fact that he keeps being concerned with keeping continuity with the last game more than anything else which is hilarious. also the scene is very well handled

SLICK GOKU BABY
Jun 12, 2001

A Little Known FACT: Burger King's Bacon King is superior to the Baconator.


precision posted:

people are gonna say a lot of angry stupid words about the option to be transgender and what mackey says if you pick that and they'll miss the fact that he keeps being concerned with keeping continuity with the last game more than anything else which is hilarious. also the scene is very well handled

There is 5 options for the gender and 4 of them Mackey says the same though. Male Cis/Trans and Female Cis/Trans all say the same thing. It's the other option that is funny (and of course will upset some folks)

Bubba Smith
Sep 27, 2004

Is tonight the greatest moment in Dominick Cruz's life?

No.

The greatest moment in my life was realizing that I didn't need a belt to be happy.


This game is fantastic, better than the Stick of Truth.

SLICK GOKU BABY
Jun 12, 2001

A Little Known FACT: Burger King's Bacon King is superior to the Baconator.


The butters chin balls and (sarcasticball) bra hat costume options make it GOTY material IMO.

precision
May 7, 2006

Gonna have me some good friends around
Gonna have me some good times in town




SLICK GOKU BABY posted:

There is 5 options for the gender and 4 of them Mackey says the same though. Male Cis/Trans and Female Cis/Trans all say the same thing. It's the other option that is funny (and of course will upset some folks)

he says the same thing if you pick male? that's weird, why would that confuse him? when i picked female trans he kept being like "wait, we all assumed you were a boy" and calls your mom saying "well in stick of truth there was the whole king thing"

weird

CuddlyZombie
Nov 6, 2005

I wuv your brains.



Oh my god Stan literally just quoted (throwaway ref spoilers) Gurren Lagann

Drunken Baker
Feb 3, 2015

VODKA STYLE DRINK


Finished the first night last... Uh, night. So many laughs from the game. I feel so justified buying it now. Felt like maybe 50 quid was too much, but nah. I think I'm getting my moneys worth.

Also I love that I'm basically being trolled by Towelie for making poor life choices and pre-ordering the game.

Palpek
Dec 27, 2008


Do you feel it, Zach?
My coffee warned me about it.




So is this one as strong as "interactive South Park movie" like the first one was or not?

Avalerion
Oct 19, 2012



As much as I love obsidian the actual rpg bits in the first game were bad. Was great for the south park though.

How's the game play this time around?

precision
May 7, 2006

Gonna have me some good friends around
Gonna have me some good times in town




The combat is a lot more tactical it seems. It's sort of a grid based JRPG style system.

Based on the 4 hours I've played this one is a lot longer.

As for the writing, it's still great but I haven't actually seen much yet. If you obsessively loot everywhere and get collectables it can be a while between plot.

Tijuana Bibliophile
Dec 30, 2008



Scratchmo

Owlofcreamcheese posted:

The coon episodes were some of the worst episodes and "jokes about superhero movies" feels like it got old years ago and southpark is a pretty bad show now but the first game was good so maybe this will be good too?

First game was made by better developer though

Viridiant
Nov 7, 2009

I'm here


So judging by what people have been saying earlier in this thread, the writing of the show still isn't great? I fell off the show a while ago because I thought the same, but both this game and the first one I thought were pretty funny and they're written by the same people aren't they?

Anyway I'm enjoying this game probably more than the first one, largely because I like being able to mix and match outfits without worrying about stats. Filling out the character sheet is some great fun too, and the combat while not the most challenging is pretty enjoyable.

ihatepants
Nov 5, 2011

Let the burning of pants commence. These things drive me nuts.




Vakal posted:

I just hope this game has an optional post game boss or something. The first game was pretty sparse on stuff like that.

There is a hidden boss that you can fight pretty early on, but you probably won’t be strong enough until after beating the game.

It’s Morgan Freeman. If you go behind the counter in Freeman’s Tacos and punch him three times, he’ll warn you then launch the boss battle.

free hubcaps
Oct 12, 2009


Tijuana Bibliophile posted:

First game was made by better developer though

I mean I like obsidian games too, the writing is always good but do people just forget how buggy many of their
games are

the fanboyism for obsidian has always struck me as a little odd

Drunken Baker
Feb 3, 2015

VODKA STYLE DRINK


Viridiant posted:

So judging by what people have been saying earlier in this thread, the writing of the show still isn't great? I fell off the show a while ago because I thought the same, but both this game and the first one I thought were pretty funny and they're written by the same people aren't they?

Season 19 and 20 (?) were pretty crap and I hear Matt & Trey have said so themselves. They tried to make the entire season have continuity and play out like an episode of 24 and it didn't really work with how they write the shows (I imagine anyone into the game knows already, but they write, voice and animate it during the week before it airs which is loving crazy). The biggest bump in the road for them was when Trump won because the latter half of the season was meant to... I don't know how it was meant to go. I bailed out of there when the 'MembaBerries started driving cars or some poo poo. I hear the new season has gone back to one off gag episodes with just a mild continuity in the town's background. Might start watching it again. And yeah it's all written by Matt and Trey.

The game works (imo) because despite the entire game having an overarching story (which I've only just got to instigating about 6 hours in) each "section" of the game has been playing out as little sketches and gags that you'd get in the show. Couple of Priests ambush you in a closet, load of gags and quips, move on to the next set piece. Bunch of strippers attack you, load of gags and a boss fight, move on... That kind of thing.

BexGu
Jan 9, 2004

This fucking day....

Bullshit. Season 18/19 was some of the best stuff the show has ever done. It did go off the rails completely last season (20) with Trump winning and right now its kind of just meandering with some ups/downs. The episode setting up the game is pretty good through. (Shows how Professor Chaos got all his minions).

You are right why the game and humor works well together

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006



Tijuana Bibliophile posted:

First game was made by better developer though

Obsidian is usually noted for their writing, and broken just about everything else.

But these games are written by Parker and Stone.

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Drunken Baker
Feb 3, 2015

VODKA STYLE DRINK


Aphrodite posted:

Obsidian is usually noted for their writing, and broken just about everything else.

But these games are written by Parker and Stone.

Yeah, at first I felt iffy about Obsidian not heading the project, then I slowly came to that conclusion.

All I can think when it comes to Obsidian is that as RPG makers they might have known some tip and tricks to "pacing" a game that's all about levelling that some other game devs might not be as clear on. Like a screenplay I imagine an RPG game brief needs to hit certain plot(game) points at certain times whilst doling out relevant and fun side quests and poo poo.

Not far enough into this to judge any of that though... Plus I can't remember any of the pacing and poo poo from the first game either.

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