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Bryan: "So, like if you use a ladder, in a chairs match, is that a disqualif-" Vinny: "Yes" Bryan: "WHAT?!?"
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Gaz-L posted:Bryan: "So, like if you use a ladder, in a chairs match, is that a disqualif-"
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Dec 17, 2018 22:20
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Oh, I know, I just laughed because I'm with Vinny and it was hilarious that Bryan had never considered that the answer to his rhetorical question was "Yes".
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Dec 17, 2018 22:30
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Gaz-L posted:Oh, I know, I just laughed because I'm with Vinny and it was hilarious that Bryan had never considered that the answer to his rhetorical question was "Yes". Batista/Undertaker got restarted because Batista used a low blow in a chairs match. There is precedent.
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Dec 17, 2018 22:55
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If it wasn't for precedent, it makes sense to have a match type where something out of the ordinary is allowed, but the match can still end by DQ. Like in PRIDE, you could soccer kick a guy but you'd still get DQ'd for the same things that you'd get DQ'd for in UFC. Of course, the precedent is that gimmick match = no DQ. And a chairs match just isn't cool.
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Dec 17, 2018 23:15
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There was a Hell in a Cell match years ago where HHH(?) was saved from a pinfall by.... a ropebreak. 
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Dec 17, 2018 23:29
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Jerusalem posted:There was a Hell in a Cell match years ago where HHH(?) was saved from a pinfall by.... a ropebreak. It's not falls count anywhere!
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MassRafTer posted:It's not falls count anywhere! Didn't Taker/Shane end with the pinfall on the stairs? I know it was one of the forgettable cell matches. Also, I would argue that the robe break is due to the pin no longer being "legal" with the same logic being why you get DQed for not breaking a submission. So the pin should be counted in a no DQ scenario.
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Dec 17, 2018 23:45
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GoutPatrol posted:Release on Christmas day. They are always recorded earlier (except maybe the first one, recorded very close or on Christmas Eve I think.) The 2006 Brent-is-institutionalized drama was good.
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Dec 17, 2018 23:47
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Charles Gnarwin posted:Didn't Taker/Shane end with the pinfall on the stairs? I know it was one of the forgettable cell matches. I remembered it recently because there was some kind of cage match and they grabbed the ropes and the commentators shouted,"Grabbing the ropes won't help you in a cage match!"
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LividLiquid posted:This can't be right unless they changed it, because I always listened on Christmas Eve when my ex-wife went to bed. There are years where they put it out a little earlier and other years where they put it out after Christmas all together.
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Is the audio/video out of sync on the videos you pay for
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I gotta say the Pacific Rim podcast on Wrestling Observer is really growing on me, and Fumi Saito just refusing to let Jim Valley move on after he (Jim) didn't understand Saito's point about Tanahashi critiquing Omega was some beautiful Meltzer-style stuff.
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Dave: That's just basic pro wrestling. It doesn't bother me. Bryan: It bothers me a lot
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Was relistening to old Christmas shows and Bryan gets so drunk in 2008 he says "what it is this, the Dave show" after someone says ya know a few times. That and his theories on peeing.
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MassRafTer posted:That and his theories on peeing. One year I remember instead of saying “I have to pee really bad” he said “my penis is full” and for some reason that has stuck with me throughout the years.
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Rob is the nicest sweetest man.
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Karmine posted:One year I remember instead of saying “I have to pee really bad” he said “my penis is full” and for some reason that has stuck with me throughout the years. Been debating turning that into a pee is stored in balls meme.
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Lost it when Bryan found out about the No Holds Barred match on retro Nitro
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The Jimmy Jacobs interview on WOL was kinda fascinating just to hear how diplomatic Jimmy was being about not criticizing WWE, and how diplomatic Bryan was being in not outright saying,"WWE's system is bad and should feel bad!"
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Dec 20, 2018 02:07
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Jerusalem posted:There was a Hell in a Cell match years ago where HHH(?) was saved from a pinfall by.... a ropebreak. Jerusalem posted:I remembered it recently because there was some kind of cage match and they grabbed the ropes and the commentators shouted,"Grabbing the ropes won't help you in a cage match!" This makes complete sense and I will explain it using a recent example: Jericho vs. Omega from Wrestle Kingdom 12. When you grab the ropes, you are no longer considered in the ring. So you cannot be pinned and you cannot be submitted, because you have to be in the ring for either of those things to count. For a pinfall, this breaks the pinfall. For a submission, the ref will start a count. If you do not break the count within 5 seconds, you are disqualified. Jericho vs. Omega was a No DQ match. Early in the match when Jericho got Omega in the Walls, Omega got the ropes. But because it was no DQ, Jericho had no reason to fear losing from not letting go, so he held onto the submission. Very late in the match, Jericho got Omega in the Walls again, Omega got the ropes and Jericho let go this time. He didn't hold on because yes, technically, he could hold on as long as he wanted, but Omega wasn't in the ring anymore so he couldn't win even if he held on and Omega submitted. And this was after they had beaten the poo poo out of each other for half an hour, so Jericho was too exhausted to drag him back to the center of the ring, so he just let go. So even in a No DQ match, rope breaks will stop a pinfall or submission from ending a match, but they won't force a submission to be released. You can hold on as long as you want, it just won't make you win even if they submit, as long as they're still in the ropes.
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Triple H pinned jericho on top of the cell, confirming that 'inside the ring' extends infinitely upward, which is kind of cool, much like the goal line in the nfl football league
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VJeff posted:This makes complete sense and I will explain it using a recent example: Jericho vs. Omega from Wrestle Kingdom 12. The concept of "you can not concede a match outside of the ring" is dumb as hell. So what happens if you are stuck in an inescapable hold outside? You're just stuck there forever until you die???
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the rules of wrestling aren't meant to be used outside of the ring. when you watch lou thesz wrestle buddy rogers or something you'll see rogers fall out of the ring and then thesz wait patiently until buddy gets back in because that's what a boxer or shoot catch wrestler would do. you arent supposed to do things like climb the ropes or brawl outside because that completely exposes the match as being fraudulent but these are the rules we have, and we must live with them Smoking Crow fucked around with this message at 06:34 on Dec 20, 2018 |
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Lone Goat posted:The concept of "you can not concede a match outside of the ring" is dumb as hell. So what happens if you are stuck in an inescapable hold outside? You're just stuck there forever until you die??? The concept of no rules matches in general is dumb as hell from an actual combat sports standpoint.
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where is the issue dave dave where are you hiding it
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remusclaw posted:The concept of no rules matches in general is dumb as hell from an actual combat sports standpoint. Well early No Holds Barred MMA was nearly no rules so it's not that much of a stretch. Stuff like pins outside the ring not counting because you can say that they can only happen within the "wrestling surface" but telling someone "no you may not forfeit the match if you're getting murdered on the floor" is goofy as heck.
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Lone Goat posted:Well early No Holds Barred MMA was nearly no rules so it's not that much of a stretch. And guess what UFC was quick to implement? No fence grabbing!
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Lone Goat posted:Stuff like pins outside the ring not counting because you can say that they can only happen within the "wrestling surface" but telling someone "no you may not forfeit the match if you're getting murdered on the floor" is goofy as heck. It would be just about the worst finish in the world but couldn't a referee stoppage happen in this scenario?
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Incessant Excess posted:It would be just about the worst finish in the world but couldn't a referee stoppage happen in this scenario? Gargano/Ciampa II was kinda heading in that direction before it settled on the actual worst finish in the world instead.
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remusclaw posted:The concept of no rules matches in general is dumb as hell from an actual combat sports standpoint. 
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Smoking Crow posted:where is the issue dave its up, and its the HOF issue
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It's loving bullshit
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Smoking Crow posted:It's loving bullshit this is not quote:Finkel came back in 2002 as a heel with the idea of creating a conflict with Garcia as ring announcer. The idea was to try and build a rating with an evening gown vs. tuxedo clothes stripping match between the two of them for the Raw ring announcing position. Finkel was played up in a chauvinist role, as the old out-of-touch male who thought no woman could do the job he could do. As is often the case, the heel was right.
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Dec 20, 2018 11:45
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Smoking Crow posted:It's loving bullshit Nagata is in, therefore it is a great class 
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Jerusalem posted:LA Park is in, therefore it is a great class
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Really into Dave cutting heel promos on US cities and I hope this trend continues
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Incessant Excess posted:It would be just about the worst finish in the world but couldn't a referee stoppage happen in this scenario? The referee can stop the fight but you, the person having their leg broken, can't stop the fight. 
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