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LesterGroans posted:Thomas Middleditch absolutely sucks, his relationship sounds like poo poo, he's not a sex pest based on that one interview. Yeah, I don’t think he’s a Spacey or Weinstein but it comes off that he uses his status to extract what he wants from the relationship. https://twitter.com/libbycwatson/status/1173994533689933824?s=21
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Sep 19, 2019 09:59
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I agree w/ Bust about “if we say convicted criminals can be/are rehabilitated, what about these guys?” It’s so persnickety. Louis deserves consequences, for sure, he got to skate on some pretty gross poo poo for years. But he’s had his rear end kicked... but he hasn’t really apologized. Well, I think he put out a statement or whatever when it first blew up. Does he deserve to lose $50 million? $80 million? I’m not defending Louis or saying he deserves to come back at this moment. I just think the contrast with expectations for those in his position versus criminals who went through a trial and due process, along w an appropriate punishment, is worth talking about.
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Sep 22, 2019 12:16
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graventy posted:A just punishment would ban him from any influence or power in the comedy community forever. He had one chance to do comedy. He hosed it up. He can't do comedy any more. That last sentence is so weird. Why would you feel bad for something that he did on his own? Presumably you bought his specials and whatnot because you liked it and it made you laugh. You may as well avoid any art on the possibility the person could be a monster. Are you grimacing over seeing Miramax movies in the 90s? EDIT: and I don’t agree about the punishment thing. Maybe in our eyes he hasn’t been punished, but to him, he’s experienced being ostracized, losing major opportunities, etc. And even then, there are guys like David Bowie and John Lennon who did explicitly more hosed up things to girls and women, but they’re timeless legends. I don’t think Louis deserves a pass, but there are clearly mixed signals. If we think his transgressions are worthy of cancelling, then why not Led Zeppelin for sticking sharks in pussies or whatever the story is? Boywhiz88 fucked around with this message at 16:01 on Sep 22, 2019 |
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Sep 22, 2019 15:54
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graventy posted:I don't particularly like supporting people who turn out to be monsters, so yeah, I feel guilty about supporting him. That's mostly my Lutheran upbringing speaking, probably. We feel guilty about everything. Hahaha, that’s fair! And hey, I might be telling on my lack of empathy or something by looking at it that way myself. I appreciate that everyone has approached this in good faith, I’m really not trying to weasel out a defense or anything for Louis. It’s just a part of these situations that I’ve thought about and wanted to know what other people were thinking.
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Sep 22, 2019 16:07
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Rhyno posted:That's a take now but prior to all this Louie was hailed as brilliant and a unique voice. I have to admit that I’ve gotten into coffee drinks this year. I run through Louis’ bit in my head about the guy making the drink and tamping and whatnot. It makes me giggle because it can be v accurate.
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Sep 22, 2019 16:10
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Skwirl posted:Michelle Obama is the only person in that photo without blood on their hands. 
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Sep 24, 2019 01:27
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“Creepy as gently caress.” I think you’re misusing that. Here, let me help by providing you an example of something creepy as gently caress: https://twitter.com/seanoconnz/status/1186344149181579266?s=21
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Oct 26, 2019 03:31
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:Would you be happier if she wore the age difference on her dress in scarlet numerals? drat, Joe. How big is the age gap with the woman you’re dating? Or is she not born yet? Bust’s post was very articulate and you’re coming at him with ad hominem and strawman arguments. He’s right to call it a very weird power dynamic. People critique when a 40yo woman gets married to an 80yo rich guy. In that case, they’re blaming the woman and calling her a gold digger. So, can’t we point the lens at a relationship where the dynamic is switched but maybe similar? I’m not even accusing them of being like a Connor Roy where it’s strictly transactional. I’m just saying something like this should make people pause and say “hey, what’s the deal with you two?” No one is asking for their sex tape or that they get matching tattoos. At the end of the day, we’ll see how long it lasts and if it disintegrates, what the details are.
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Oct 26, 2019 13:40
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Vintersorg posted:If they are consenting adults who loving cares. OK, no one is even bringing up sex here. We’re saying the power dynamics in an ONGOING RELATIONSHIP between two people with such a gap is weird, and the extra power in play comes from Dennis Quaid’s Hollywood career. If these were two suburbanites or whatever, it wouldn’t be a discussion here. That’s what would make this a weird thing to talk about. At the end of the day, yeah, they’re two consenting adults but it’s still a weird situation.
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Oct 26, 2019 15:28
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Good for Noah there!
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Feb 14, 2020 14:28
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Rhyno posted:Didn't Ed Norton cheat on Salma Hayek? Ed Norton has been retroactively cancelled.
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Apr 13, 2020 21:16
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:Britney Spears dad is a major league rear end in a top hat, he managed to weasel his way into controlling all of her money despite the fact she's now a 38 year old woman. She hates the dude and isn't on speaking terms with him, but legally he owns her. It's a creepy as Hell situation. Is it a power of attorney thing that’s a holdover from the 07/08 “public meltdown?” That’s so hosed.
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Jun 19, 2020 03:15
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The thing that I’ve noticed is that if they are an abuser, they end up being a serial abuser and have lots of allegations pop-up. Not to say that every situation is like that, but the ones that get away with it once or twice then think they can get away with it always. And then you break open the floodgates and you get a hundred stories and at least a few have evidence, etc. that can’t be refuted.
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Jun 20, 2020 03:43
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Also this exists: https://twitter.com/ChemicalMishap/status/1273159524791259137?s=20
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Jun 20, 2020 04:57
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thrawn527 posted:Fair point, most of the people I'm seeing who seem to have known what he did were other gross dudebros, and I don't know the circles comedians travel in. I shouldn't have assumed. Apologies. Yes and no. Like you I learned about Chris from the show “Whitney.” Here’s the thing though: I’ve found comedians to be extremely close-knit. If you look at like, Chelsea Peretti, Joe Mande, Aziz Ansari, and John Mulaney’s careers, you’ll see there’s a ton of intermingling and being put on by one another. Same with the 90s alt-scene and people like Patton Oswalt, Brian Posehn, and a bunch of folks that were on Mr. Show. So, I’m saying that Chris gets “Whitney” because he’s tight w Whitney. HOWEVER, this is like... 2011 and he wasn’t really anywhere. Basically, if it started up post-“Whitney”, I can see her not knowing, but if he has been doing it his whole career, I think it’s hard to deny ANY knowledge of it. Does she know? I don’t know and that’s hers and maybe Chris’ to know, but I also don’t think it’s wrong to ask her “wait, really?”
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Jun 22, 2020 15:26
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KitConstantine posted:You can ask, but it's not like Chris and other male comedians wouldn't be aware that women would be likely to disapprove of his behavior/call him out and were more careful about discussing it around her/other women. This comes up again and again in multiple fields - gross men have a few token women in their circle as a shield and are careful not to drop mask around them. Something gross comes out and those women are asked "Well why didn't you know he was gross??" Um, because these men are fully capable of not behaving in a gross way when they want to? They aren't assaulting/sexually harassing the men they work with/are friends with either because they aren't their preferred victims/they have something to gain from them Absolutely! I think I’d sum up my view as “ask her but respect what she says.” But ultimately it’s the predator at fault and gently caress Chris d’Elia sideways. Also that Joey Diaz clip I posted earlier. It’s so horrific, and everyone in it is so casual.
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Jun 22, 2020 20:11
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Skwirl posted:I blame you for this Groovelord Neato Doesn’t Lilly Singh still have her show?
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Aug 3, 2020 09:32
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I would die in a war for Amber Ruffin. She’s so loving funny!
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Aug 3, 2020 14:16
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AceOfFlames posted:Those swag bags are getting WAY out of hand. I think it was in the last page or two that someone mentioned there was an uncomfortable frequency of jokes. I understand it's SA, but stuff like this can really limit the people who want or feel comfortable to participate. Would they want to risk their pain becoming a punchline? Something to consider.
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Aug 25, 2020 22:46
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OK, so of the people who have discussed it at length in the last couple pages... who has actually watched the film?
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Sep 11, 2020 23:54
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But Big Mouth isn’t cautionary. It’s a nostalgia trip for folks who went through puberty and it’s maybe somewhat relatable to teens who are going through that. It’s meant to be over the top and absurd. Presumably, something like Cuties is speaking to parents and adults and how they factor into this. What they do or do not discuss with their child, how they approach certain topics or behaviors. I’m probably gonna watch it w my GF this weekend to just have an actual understanding of the film and how it portrays these topics. My understanding is that the main character isn’t a latchkey kid. That she has her parents in her life. Isn’t that an avenue for self examination right there? Hey, I’m involved w my kid but what am I focusing on or expressing to them? In high school, I remember an all school spiritfest where there was a dance routine that started off with T.I’s Tip Drill. For reference, you could only find the video uncensored on porn sites. Those were girls between 14-17yo dancing to that song, even if the dancing itself wasn’t explicit. It wasn’t “right” per se, but it’s also just the reality of things. Kids want to be into adult things even if they don’t understand all aspects of these situations. I knew a peer who was dating a guy 6 years older than her, in his early 20s. I just feel like it’s this weird erasure of how a lot of people live and grow in the world. Especially one where sexuality is used in advertising and media non-stop. It may also be the more Puritan aspect of American culture. Think of the discussions around portrayal of violence in American media vs the world. We’re far more comfortable with blood and guts, then nudity and sexuality.
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Sep 12, 2020 19:06
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You don’t think there’s a difference between a “sexy (adult) nurse” and a teen bunny?
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Sep 13, 2020 00:57
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WeedlordGoku69 posted:you know this is a literal QAnon talking point, right? What part is the QAnon talking point?
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Sep 13, 2020 01:56
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Is it really? Cause he skated for like 15 years after he molested a kid on tape. Most of the dirt on Leto is that he's a 50 year old guy that fronts an emo band, which is like, fair enough. Ummm, I’m p sure he has a private island w a cult-esque gathering there.
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Feb 6, 2021 20:53
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Leto has a cult island. R Kelly had a rotating harem of abused women, and was empowered by people enamored w celebrity, fame, or money.
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Feb 6, 2021 23:02
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I mean Tina Fey received trauma at a young age when she got her face slashed by some nut. The scar is a lot more obvious on Blu-Ray/HD. Same w John Hamm’s vitiligo. I would expect that probably colors her worldview in some way. Also, the Britney Spears documentary should be getting discussed in here more. What she went through at the hands of people like Diane Sawyer, Matt Lauer, or any number of adults who were over the line. Ugh.
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Feb 11, 2021 15:01
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Yeah, it’s from NYT on Hulu. It’s based around examining the conservatorship that’s existed for a decade+ that came out of a time in her life when she had endured years of just awfulness and finally hit a breaking point. Just one of those things that I’m grateful there’s more discussion and examination around the topics it brings up.
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Feb 11, 2021 16:12
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What interview is this?
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Feb 11, 2021 21:48
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Detective No. 27 posted:If you had any doubts about Michael Jackson before watching it, you won't after watching it. Alan, Google “Michael Jackson fax” and you’ll have a taste of why people are like “he did it”
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Mar 1, 2021 11:03
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But throughout, he's had a career. He's had accolades, awards, money, and no real consequences for gross predatory behavior. Only in the last couple of years has it affected him professionally. And even then he's off in Europe now! That Guardian article highlighted a lot of the shortcomings I see in the documentary, but it also gives Woody a huge pass. Like, gently caress. It sucks because it seems like it's just a super messy situation that is overly publicized.
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Mar 4, 2021 18:43
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Vintersorg posted:I think Lindsay Bluth decides to run for president or something. I stopped after season 4 was absolute garbage. I had to go back and rewatch some of season 1 to make sure I wasn't going insane. I laughed more in the first 15 minutes of episode 1 than I did the entire new season. It didn't help that Ron Howard wouldn't just shut the gently caress up. Isn't a big part of S4 and S5 that they couldn't get everyone in the room together? At the time, they talked about how busy everyone was but I have to wonder if some of it wasn't related to the social dynamics as well. All the same, that chemistry between people is so important in a show like that and it's doomed to fail without it. Bust Rodd posted:The original run of S4 also has the single most elaborate racist joke, possibly in the history of TV itself, and it’s still kinda making me laugh 10 years later. It was trying to do something different and I was like one of the 10% of people who liked it. I think you've mentioned this before, Bust. Can you remind me what it is? I watched S4 when it came out but I was a huge drunk, it was like 8 years ago, and I don't care enough to look up the original cut. Boywhiz88 fucked around with this message at 15:14 on Mar 31, 2021 |
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Mar 31, 2021 15:10
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Bust Rodd posted:There is nothing Joss Whedon can do to a script that Patton Oswalt or John Mulaney or Ben Schwartz can’t also do to that script, it’s all the same style of humor and they’ve all done punch up for basically just as long I was gonna make the point about Oswalt, as it's been mentioned that he's like a go-to for a ton of blockbusters. Also, some days I really do think he killed his wife. Out of maybe wanting to be out of the relationship, and maybe of out jealousy of Michelle's inevitable climb to true-crime fame after she inevitably solved it. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Apr 1, 2021 18:01
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Bust Rodd posted:Yeah it was a freak accident caused by her meds interacting with an unknown heart disorder, there’s no way he could have murdered her unless he somehow knew about a medical condition that she had but was somehow unaware of. I mostly said it as an off-handed joke and referral to an old thread of mine: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3837017&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=1 However, per the documentary series that HBO did, in which Patton helped star, he talks her mixing stuff like Xanax and alcohol and other meds. It lends itself to the "true crime" perfect murder idea or whatever. "It was the perfect crime!" sort of thing. And Michelle Macnamara absolutely would have been some level of famous as the amateur person who helped to solve Golden State Killer mystery. But yeah, I'm not gonna say that in front of him or his family or anything. Just a small possibility that does exist in my mind.
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Apr 1, 2021 19:30
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I want to apologize for earlier. It was inappropriate and I hosed up. I’ve even asked people to maybe watch their jokes in this thread, and I should have known better. I’m sorry. Groovelord Neato posted:She didn't come close to solving it so this is weird on top of everything else. It was my understanding of the coverage around the time of her death, and through the HBO documentary “I’ll Be Gone in the Night” that Michelle played a big part in helping get the dots connected amongst the different stages of EAR/ONS.
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Apr 2, 2021 01:47
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The PR response is gonna be interesting because there are so many layers to that inclusion. Presumably they had to arrange for the extras to be in costume and filmed. Someone along the way had to maybe go through a list of WB properties and approve/decline their presence in the film. Why not a hard cutoff for anything over PG-13? And then in the composition process, because I assume all of these individual character groups were shot separately, they had to put them right up front. Weird and gross.
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Apr 4, 2021 18:56
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https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-crucifixion-of-courtney-stodden Incredibly relevant article.
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May 12, 2021 02:55
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In Britney’s testimony for her conservatorship, she states she’s been forced to keep an IUD despite wanting more kids. I think that falls under a form of sexual assault/coercion. It’s really sad and speaks to the levels of exploitation that exist even when you’re a star. https://twitter.com/NPR/status/1407826949469265920?s=20
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Jun 24, 2021 01:40
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If the conservatorship continues, I'd say there's a non-zero chance that a dedicated Britney fan "helps" out. It really is wild that this is so public and everyone can see this and yet... nothing happens. It's like every other aspect of our society. These institutions that are rigid, outdated, indifferent, or a combination and do not respond to the needs of the people they're meant to serve. Anyone can see that Britney Spears is clearly a competent woman. And frankly, if she's not, well then it's not like there isn't recourse. But no, it goes on and on. In part because people are enriched and they don't want to lose their Golden Goose.
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Jun 25, 2021 13:37
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This poo poo is crazy. Everything is this thread is awful, but this is so blatant and obvious and yet… nothing! I hope Cali and these women get a chance for justice, whatever that may be in this case.
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Jul 22, 2021 23:06
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