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9 | 4.71% |
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155 | 81.15% |
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Ok, I get why you guys hate Jason Jordan now. I'll reserve judgement until after Smackdown (and probably what I'm doing Saturday) but that RAW definitely pushed me over the edge from "probably subscribing for War Games and Survivor Series for the hell of it" to "nah, I have better things to do with $10 and a weekend."
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Nov 14, 2017 06:07
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I still actually like the guy, think he has some talent, and thought that in a vacuum he's getting a pretty un-WWE-like balanced push where they try and get him over gradually instead of just shoving him up the card with a rocket. But then this whole thing about making him the fifth member, having Steph poo poo on him, writing him out with injury, having him badly act a really ridiculous story, and then have HHH do his thing on him and I kinda get why people dislike him so much. Because even if I know its not really Jason Jordan's fault, man was that some dogshit booking.
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Nov 14, 2017 07:36
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I can only speak for myself and all I can say is that I'm over HHH. I have been for a long time. You can guarantee me he'll have good matches and put over the young talent in the end and I'd still just have no desire to watch any more of him doing the same thing he's done for so long. I wasn't excited for Jason Jordon being n the match, I don't dispute that HHH is an upgrade, I just couldn't care less to watch HHH. Maybe if he went away for a long time I might miss him or if he did something really different. But its an uphill climb because I just feel like I've seen more HHH than I ever need to in my lifetime. I don't think that's "overreacting." Its just a result of 20 years of WWE content and HHH's ever present character. I'm not saying he isn't good. I'm not saying there wasn't a time I enjoyed him. I've just seen as much of that as I really have any interest in seeing. I'm full.
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Nov 14, 2017 22:56
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rovert posted:Fabulous little segment from last year: I just don't understand why Survivor Series turns every face in WWE into the Four Horsemen willing to beat down and hurt anyone to protect... their color of t-shirt?
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Nov 15, 2017 01:07
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Blaise330 posted:Brand loyalty, something KO and Sami know nothing about Weren't they actually pretty mad they didn't make their teams too? The 205 Live guys seem to largely be unaffected by this strange phenomena.
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Nov 15, 2017 01:15
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I still kind of think I'm a "casual viewer" at least by modern WWE standards. I mean, I know I'm not actually casual as I follow on here and DVRs every show. But like, I'm someone who theoretically will subscribe based on the strength of a PPV card or a must see match. The last matches that drew me to "buy" were Balor vs Rollins and Styles vs Cena and the main reason I am considering "buying" Survivor Series is Styles vs Brock. HHH centered matches actively turn me away at this stage and lowered my interest in Survivor Series. Again, I can only speak for myself. I have no idea if HHH is good for subscriptions or something. And my Balor and Styles draws are clearly very "smark" inspired.
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Nov 15, 2017 01:27
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Blaise330 posted:They didn't get shirts. They should storm the ring during RAW in purple shirts and unite with a bunch of guys in yellow NXT shirts. It made me care about the Invasion for a week.
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Nov 15, 2017 01:35
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Yeah, HHH is kind of the avatar of WWE booking. If you like WWE booking you probably are cool with HHH and think people are unfair about him. If you're tired of WWE booking you probably have a somewhat visceral or instinctive reaction to HHH and a "here we go again" response. If he wins and looks good it feels like McMahon ego booking and talent burial and if he loses it just kind of feels like a drop in the ocean. How "fair" it is, I don't know. But it's just where we're at.
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Nov 15, 2017 02:09
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VJeff posted:Daniel Bryan loving hated AJ Styles back at Mania season and now he's being his pitchman for Survivor Series. I mean, at least Bryan has a real rational motivation to want to see his champ beat the other shows champ.
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Nov 15, 2017 04:29
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Rhonne posted:Yeah, the champ vs champ stuff at least makes sense. Of course Raw's tag team champions would want to prove that they're better than Smackdown's, or the IC champion proving he's better than the US champion, and so on. It's all the rabid "brand loyalty" poo poo from everyone else that I can't stand. Bayley shouldn't be doing gang beat downs on Becky Lynch, the Shield shouldn't all be ganging up on a 47 year old Shane McMahon. It's all stupid and makes everyone on both rosters look like assholes, except Sami and Owens who remain pure and innocent. I could buy into "brand loyalty" in the right circumstances. It would make sense for some faces to want to represent their brand in the name of sportsmanship. It would make sense for certain heels to want to prove their superiority. It would make sense for rivals to want to best each other after being separated by brands. It would make sense for under card workers to want to make a name for themselves or gain favor by fighting for their brand. Its storytelling that could work if some thought was put into it. But instead every face and heel on one show hates and assaults every face and heel on the other show with a unity to their rivals that wasn't there 3 weeks ago and will disappear next week and a viciousness and passion that came out of nowhere. It just seems dumb and lazy and abandons the notion that any of the wrestlers have consistent characters or motivations.
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Nov 15, 2017 05:24
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I'm mostly curious as to if "Ellsworth would have been transgender" meant that he'd put on a dress and say he was "transgendered" and deserves equal rights to compete in the Women's division or if he was going to get breasts or something. I mean, I know its the first one but I just have this image of Ellsworth in the Marilyn Manson suit I can't shake.
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Nov 18, 2017 01:37
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Renaissance Spam posted:You know in your heart it was going to be the former and there probably would have been a bathroom sketch in there. Oh for sure. I know Vince and WWE. But I can't shake the image.
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Nov 18, 2017 01:40
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Wait, is there a 3 hour pre-show? That's just absurd.
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Nov 19, 2017 23:16
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Raskolnikov38 posted:big 4 ppvs start an hour earlier Ahh. I guess that's less absurd? Technically?
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Nov 19, 2017 23:17
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Do it ironically posted:cena was like just there, no shirt or blue smackdown anything and he just played up the crowd a bit eliminated then got eliminated and left, im still not sure why they put him in there That stood out to me. Like i was making jokes with my friend about how Shane didn't wear a Smackdown shirt and needed a personalized thing and Triple H just did his own thing entirely. But then Cena came out not even bothering to put on one of his blue outfits and we just cracked up. He truly is a free agent. For unclear reasons. Seams posted:actually hhh is cool as suggested by this tweet Wait, is "The Creator" an actual HHH nickname? Because drat... that's even more on the nose than "King of Kings."
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Nov 21, 2017 01:43
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