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what the hell is with the blacks? all these tvs have different terms for what blacks they have but how can you do better than just turning the led off? richer? deeper? what the hell? also what's up with refresh rates, all these tvs say 240hz natural or tru refresh rate or whatever but on the back it the port says its only 60hz? do I have to use display port or something? my tv is smart but the only apps it has is like netflix and hulu, why can't I get rid of my cable box? I can watch tv on my laptop just fine on a browser 4k is nice but theres no content what do I do if I want to get a receiver or whatever? is there gonna be input lags for games? also, why don't hdmi transmit tv controls already so my xbox can turn up the volume or switch channels or whatever without having to use a lovely ir blaster
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Magius1337est posted:what the hell is with the blacks? Whoa whoa hey chill on the racism fella. 
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Nov 16, 2017 02:32
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Magius1337est posted:what the hell is with the blacks? all these tvs have different terms for what blacks they have but how can you do better than just turning the led off? richer? deeper? what the hell? you can't turn off the led, that's the backlight. LCD works like stained glass, a light has to shine through it and that's just a big old light and a white sheet to even it out behind the window. sometimes you can turn off sections of the backlight but that's it really. plasma and oled works by having individual pixels light up with their own light so that can be way more black. quote:also what's up with refresh rates, all these tvs say 240hz natural or tru refresh rate or whatever but on the back it the port says its only 60hz? do I have to use display port or something? all that poo poo interpolates frames, adding missing frames between other frames. it adds lag, sometimes a lot of lag. quote:my tv is smart but the only apps it has is like netflix and hulu, why can't I get rid of my cable box? I can watch tv on my laptop just fine on a browser get a apple tv, then you can airplay your laptop to your tv, or just download the specific apple tv app you want (it's 'plex' btw) quote:4k is nice but theres no content yep, not a good buy. you probably can't even tell the difference between 4k or 1080p unless you sit super close or its really big quote:what do I do if I want to get a receiver or whatever? is there gonna be input lags for games? quote:also, why don't hdmi transmit tv controls already so my xbox can turn up the volume or switch channels or whatever without having to use a lovely ir blaster they do, its called hdmi-cec but you gotta have stuff that supports it. ps4 and apple tv does, for instance.
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Nov 16, 2017 02:42
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chaosbreather posted:you can't turn off the led, that's the backlight. LCD works like stained glass, a light has to shine through it and that's just a big old light and a white sheet to even it out behind the window. sometimes you can turn off sections of the backlight but that's it really. plasma and oled works by having individual pixels light up with their own light so that can be way more black. you can't turn off an led? I thought each pixie was a seperate led and there was no backlight? also why the hell would you want to game on an old tv? wouldn't you just get an adapter for whatver system you're using?
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Nov 16, 2017 02:50
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Magius1337est posted:also why the hell would you want to game on an old tv? wouldn't you just get an adapter for whatver system you're using? if you want lag yeah
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Nov 16, 2017 02:53
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my tv doesn't lag & my ps4 can turn it on
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Nov 16, 2017 02:55
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Magius1337est posted:you can't turn off an led? I thought each pixie was a seperate led and there was no backlight? nope. it's called an LED LCD. the LEDs are the backlight, the LCD is the stained glass that (tries) to block it out. LEDs aren't small enough for the resolution you'd want, but you'll see that display, called an LED matrix display, in shopping malls as advertising mega screens since that can get away with very low pixel density quote:also why the hell would you want to game on an old tv? wouldn't you just get an adapter for whatver system you're using?
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Nov 16, 2017 02:56
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Simon Belmont looks like poo poo on my TV!
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Nov 16, 2017 02:58
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smash bros is best on old crts
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Nov 16, 2017 02:59
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Rich blacks are like THIS, poor blacks are like THIS
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Nov 16, 2017 03:00
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I recommend an HDTV op I have one and its quite good.
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Nov 16, 2017 03:25
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I don't know OP. My TV is a Sharp Roku TV that I got on a black friday sale for $175. It seems fine.
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Nov 16, 2017 03:27
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are plasma tv's still a thing gently caress
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Nov 16, 2017 03:29
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It stands for "Head Down To Vaginatown" Hope that helps. God bles.
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Nov 16, 2017 03:29
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The closest you can get to getting rid of set top boxes while still having "normal" TV is having a TV with a built in RVU client of some sort built in (works with DirecTV at least, I'm not sure what else). You still have to have at least one main client box serving all of the RVU clients, however.
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Nov 16, 2017 03:36
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lol if you're not still using a 300 pound 36" Sony Tube TV
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Nov 16, 2017 03:46
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If you have an iPhone or iPad and an Apple TV, download the THX Optimizer app. It's useful in getting brightness, contrast, and color just right. Also, turn off the "SmoothVision" or whatever it's called. It's garbage.
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Nov 16, 2017 03:52
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Magius1337est posted:I thought each pixie was a seperate led and there was no backlight? This is what you get in OLED TVs, which is one of the reasons they're rated so highly for picture quality and black level, but they're still 5x times the price of the equivalent LCD
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Nov 16, 2017 03:56
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so the active zones or whatever is what the backlighting thing is?
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Nov 16, 2017 04:37
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so backlighting vs oled, either my screen can't get as bright or my screen can't get as dark
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Nov 16, 2017 04:38
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So oleds don't bleed as much?
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Nov 16, 2017 04:42
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I just did a dimming test and I have a dead active zone
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Nov 16, 2017 04:45
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Magius1337est posted:I just did a dimming test and I have a dead active zone I'd go see a doctor asap
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Nov 16, 2017 04:46
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lol easy man this is becmoming a one-man-thread! Shopping for new TVs is loving awful nowadays... 
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Nov 16, 2017 04:46
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Magius1337est posted:I just did a dimming test and I have a dead active zone oh god now I can't not notice it anymore 
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Nov 16, 2017 04:48
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMFewsvuteo
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Nov 16, 2017 04:51
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OLED is like staring at a laptop screen
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Nov 16, 2017 04:52
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backlights have resolution now?
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Nov 16, 2017 04:53
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Magius1337est posted:oh god now I can't not notice it anymore lol
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Nov 16, 2017 04:53
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Magius1337est posted:oh god now I can't not notice it anymore Not a bad curse, I must say... 
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Nov 16, 2017 04:58
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Plasma was a better technology than LCD but plasma TVs couldn't compete with the brightness of blinding white Best Buy store lighting so everyone thought they were too dim and they died out.
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Nov 16, 2017 05:17
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also don't they have bad burn in?
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Nov 16, 2017 05:50
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Magius1337est posted:also don't they have bad burn in? They did when the technology was really new but it quickly ceased to be a real problem. Obviously the reputation stuck, though.
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I have one of the last plasmas Panasonic made. It makes a constant faint buzzing noise and throws off heat and weighs a million pounds but the picture is  Plasmas don't really have permanent burn-in anymore unless you really work at it, but they do have some degree of temporary "image retention" as they call it. Usually goes away after a few minutes at worst.
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Nov 16, 2017 06:02
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I thought my LED tv used actual LEDs but it turns out they're really just LCD screens with LEDs lighting it from behind?
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Nov 16, 2017 06:20
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so local dimming is a thing which means HDR on an oled is entirely different than HDR on a LCD tv
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Nov 16, 2017 06:26
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Sometimes the realism is too much for me. I don't want to see every pore on these motherfuckers' faces.
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Nov 16, 2017 06:46
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I just got this 8 inch tv from my dead grandparents. It makes a nice snapping noise when turned and it has a dial for UHF.
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Magius1337est posted:so local dimming is a thing which means HDR on an oled is entirely different than HDR on a LCD tv HDR is just about simultaneous contrast between light and dark, so they're not so much 'entirely different' but just generally a lot better on OLED owing to the fact that the backlight 'resolution' is higher and that it does better blacks. With Full Array Local Dimming, which is what the best LCD screens have, you end up with the screen having it's standard resolution (1080p or 4k) and then the LED backlights having a much lower resolution (like 100x50 or something). So for a scene where one half of the screen is bright and the other dark, it's gonna function much the same. WIth a scene with scattered points of high/low contrast (ie looking at a bright light through trees at night or something) OLED, with a backlight resolution equal to it's screen resolution is going to work a lot better.
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HDTV doesn't mean anything if you bought a new TV in the last 10 years. You're set. Don't worry about it.
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