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yeah I eat rear end posted:but hearthstone could switch to a subscription model whenever they want, there's no law against that. i think you missed my point, as pointless as it was
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Dyna Soar posted:i think you missed my point, as pointless as it was obviously I did because I asked what it was in the first post and your answer didn't reveal it. sorry
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yeah I eat rear end posted:obviously I did because I asked what it was in the first post and your answer didn't reveal it. sorry i meant to poke fun at the ISP's suggesting they implement a loot box system onto their upcoming subscription model. sorry
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The Belgian Gaming Commission has made their decision.quote:"The mixing of money and addiction is gambling," the translated VTM News article concludes. "Mixing gambling and gaming, especially at a young age, is dangerous for the mental health of the child," said Belgium's Minister of Justice Koen Geens. Reportedly, Geens' ultimate goal would be to ban these types of in-game purchases in their entirety and not even solely in Belgium. "We will certainly try to ban it," Geens declares. Looks like the grassfuckers have finally hosed the grass too hard.
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Pawn 17 posted:Yes for sure. Especially if you can sell the items you get to other players for real money like on Steam. i remember for awhile youtube gaming channel people were in hot water because some of these sites got them to shill for them at the end of videos and their viewers are mostly kids so lmbo they were trying to get kids to gamble
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EU rules, i love the EU
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Dyna Soar posted:EU rules, i love the EU Is it just me or is it really odd being completely on the side of government officials and concerned parents saying some things that, if you didn't know how things actually were, would sound pretty ludicrous? So far everything they've said has been like, completely correct, and the Spade is being called a Spade. If this starts the landslide that completely makes loot boxes illegal, it's kind of a miracle.
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Blazing Ownager posted:Is it just me or is it really odd being completely on the side of government officials and concerned parents saying some things that, if you didn't know how things actually were, would sound pretty ludicrous? maybe if you live in a country where the goverment isn't trying to make it's citizens life actually better but is instead pandering to oligarchs and big business.
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At the risk of being incredibly cynical, I will forever argue that it is because there's not many European companies making money hand over fist from this stuff.
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Dyna Soar posted:maybe if you live in a country where the goverment isn't trying to make it's citizens life actually better Those don't exist.
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Blast of Confetti posted:i remember for awhile youtube gaming channel people were in hot water because some of these sites got them to shill for them at the end of videos and their viewers are mostly kids so lmbo they were trying to get kids to gamble Magic Online is getting pretty weird with that lately. Wizards of the Coast is already a scummed up company and more and more magic streamers have been opening their loot boxes (chests) live. It’s weird and stinks of, if not overt payments, at the least wink wink handshake deals. I hope I’m wrong but... 
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CJacobs posted:Those don't exist. welcome to the nordic states, squirt
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Dyna Soar posted:maybe if you live in a country where the goverment isn't trying to make it's citizens life actually better but is instead pandering to oligarchs and big business. Are we still talking about the EU here?
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Yes of course its gambling, and the best gamers are the most addicted addicts.
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Creamed Cormp posted:Are we still talking about the EU here? yeah. the eu has made the life of it's citizens hugely better compared to pre-eu.
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Laopooh posted:Magic Online is getting pretty weird with that lately. Wizards of the Coast is already a scummed up company and more and more magic streamers have been opening their loot boxes (chests) live. It’s weird and stinks of, if not overt payments, at the least wink wink handshake deals. I hope I’m wrong but... Magic online makes you grind and grind needlessly for very few cards. I prefer Magic 2015, because as someone still learning how to play at least you get a wide enough selection of cards to make some decent decks worth playing with.
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Dyna Soar posted:yeah. the eu has made the life of it's citizens hugely better compared to pre-eu. I guess if you compare it to nazi era germany, sure thing.
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Being in a MMO is absolutely exactly the same as being in a casino next to the slot machines. They're just pressing different buttons.
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Creamed Cormp posted:I guess if you compare it to nazi era germany, sure thing. nah man, in every way. mayeb you don't live here or you're too young to remember what it was like before.
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What is the deal with them not figuring out how to make a successful MTG game online? It seems so simple but every time they try it is really unpopular and bad.
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Dyna Soar posted:nah man, in every way. mayeb you don't live here or you're too young to remember what it was like before. I actually do lol, but sure, keep hyping up the EU, I'm sure eventually people will start buying into it
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Creamed Cormp posted:I actually do lol, but sure, keep hyping up the EU, I'm sure eventually people will start buying into it have you been reading the tabloids
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Dyna Soar posted:have you been reading the tabloids joke's on you I don't know how to read
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Creamed Cormp posted:joke's on you I don't know how to read who cares, your vote counts! everyone is important
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I have a hugely addictive personality and yet gambling does nothing for me. I'm glad I'm not in the 3% of people who are horribly crippled by it. The only time I open chests if I get a free chest and free key.
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Dyna Soar posted:who cares, your vote counts! everyone is important good point maybe there should be some sort of uhmmm literacy test before voting
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Creamed Cormp posted:good point maybe there should be some sort of uhmmm literacy test before voting what are you, some sort of grammar nazi
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Dyna Soar posted:what are you, some sort of grammar nazi I would never associate myself with the eternal g*rman in such a way. Maybe a grammar NKVD though
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Dyna Soar posted:if there's money involved they definitely manipulate drop rates. Right. I can't imagine why they wouldn't. If I were already a company making games that are basically fancy ways to get the rats to press the lever until they die, I wouldn't suddenly catch scruples against using data about individual players to manipulate their schedules of reinforcement.
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i like the EVE online model, where rich people pay lots of real life money to buy billion ISK officer modules that give them an addition 2% bonus to their newbie ship. because they dont understand the game they then go out and lose said billion ISK modules to low level pirates. the "pay to lose" model
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Lodin posted:The Belgian Gaming Commission has made their decision. It’s happening Bah gawd it’s happening
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Laopooh posted:Magic Online is getting pretty weird with that lately. Wizards of the Coast is already a scummed up company and more and more magic streamers have been opening their loot boxes (chests) live. It’s weird and stinks of, if not overt payments, at the least wink wink handshake deals. I hope I’m wrong but... Yes, they are called 'influencers'. Companies know how that friendly face getting the card they want can drive their brainless sheep followers into buying. This is in many, many hobbies, don't trust anyone.
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quote:"The mixing of money and addiction is gambling," the translated VTM News article concludes. "Mixing gambling and gaming, especially at a young age, is dangerous for the mental health of the child," said Belgium's Minister of Justice Koen Geens. Reportedly, Geens' ultimate goal would be to ban these types of in-game purchases in their entirety and not even solely in Belgium. "We will certainly try to ban it," Geens declares. The human brain is broken when it comes to gambling. We need to regulate this poo poo so companies will get back to more making good games to get your money, instead of making really poo poo addiction centers to get tens of thousands from morons with self control issues.
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A. Beaverhausen posted:Yes, they are called 'influencers'. Companies know how that friendly face getting the card they want can drive their brainless sheep followers into buying. This is in many, many hobbies, don't trust anyone. I hate watching streamers i like pretend to enjoy playing sponsored games. A lot of dumb people wish they could make money off of being the next big twitch streamer but they don't realize they will have to completely abandon playing games they actually like most of the time if they want to make real money.
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personally i like to play video games instead of watching some twink do it for me
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Blast of Confetti posted:personally i like to play video games instead of watching some twink do it for me they are background noise when i'm playing the video game and don't have any other tv show to watch at the time.
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Blast of Confetti posted:personally i like to play video games instead of watching some twink do it for me In that case, you're going to want to turn your monitor on.
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https://powerup-gaming.com/2017/11/22/victorian-gambling-authority-loot-boxes-gambling/ Victoria, Australia has issued a statement. This could in theory make games with lootcrates forced to be R rated in the future. Just one of 6 states though.
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drunkill posted:https://powerup-gaming.com/2017/11/22/victorian-gambling-authority-loot-boxes-gambling/ Ahahahaha Disney’s EA Star Wars Battlefront II electric boogaloo killed loot boxes It’s happening 
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yeah I eat rear end posted:What is the deal with them not figuring out how to make a successful MTG game online? It seems so simple but every time they try it is really unpopular and bad. They view the online platform as a competitor to the physical cards. So they make the apps as bad and expensive as playing the real game or highly limited trials of the full game.
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