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Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3
Nov 15, 2003

Gazans violated the NAP!

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BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
Well the smoke contains carcinogens and other pollutants so firing into the crowd is really an environmental protection measure in accordance with Israel's laws and its multi-lateral responsibilities to combat climate change.

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




so wait how are there 1700 settlers in al asqa and all of isreal not on fire right now?

A Spherical Sponge
Nov 28, 2010
Oh wait sorry I read the article wrong. I think what they mean is that 1700 settlers have been coming and going from al asqa over the past week, hundreds every day. Also a separate religious site, in Nablus in the west bank, was the one where the live ammunition was used on palestinian teenagers, and that one was then occupied by hundreds of settlers also.

This might be kind of obvious, but it seems like their objective is to inflame tensions as much as possible and provoke a retaliation of some sort so all of their war crimes are retroactively justified.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/memeclasswar/status/982442667849207810

Ansar Santa
Jul 12, 2012

Funny story, I live in the same city as the Free Palestine car, and I know a guy who knows the guy who owns it.

Raldikuk
Apr 7, 2006

I'm bad with money and I want that meatball!

Sidakafitz posted:

Funny story, I live in the same city as the Free Palestine car, and I know a guy who knows the guy who owns it.

Scintillating

paul_soccer10
Mar 28, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Lol

paul_soccer10
Mar 28, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Lol

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.
https://twitter.com/nytimesworld/status/982276001714454530

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013


quote:

The United Nations urged both sides to avoid violence and said there were “strong indications” that Israeli security forces had used excessive force last week in driving back protesters, which may have breached international law.

Elizabeth Throssell, a spokeswoman for the United Nations human rights office in Geneva, said the high casualty toll among protesters who were unarmed or did not pose a serious threat to security forces — and in some cases were running away from the fence — suggested Israeli troops may have used excessive force.

Some protesters had reportedly acted dangerously, but international law permits the use of lethal force only as a last resort in the face of an imminent threat of death or serious injury, she said. “An attempt to approach or cross the green-line fence by itself certainly does not amount to a threat to life or serious injury that would justify the use of live ammunition,” she said.

“If there is unjustified and unlawful recourse to firearms resulting in death, that may amount to willful killing and that’s a grave breach of the fourth Geneva Convention,” she added.

I'm really tired of all the chickenshit non-committal language.

A Spherical Sponge
Nov 28, 2010

lol

from the article:

"The demonstrations were smaller than those last week, when 21 people were killed. But the death toll was significant, despite a pledge by Hamas, the militant group that controls Gaza, that the protest would be peaceful, and by Israel that it had learned from last week and would use live fire judiciously"

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




judicious war crimes

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011
How is it so hard to just say what happened?

For gently caress's sake it's right there, Palestinians are dead and no one in the IDF even got hurt. ISRAEL SHOT AT PALESTINIANS. Just say it!

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/alexbkane/status/982395831180496896

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




rocks can kill!

*dead rock throwing children shot 500m from barrier*

A Spherical Sponge
Nov 28, 2010

Grondoth posted:

How is it so hard to just say what happened?

For gently caress's sake it's right there, Palestinians are dead and no one in the IDF even got hurt. ISRAEL SHOT AT PALESTINIANS. Just say it!

I think it has to be because of editorial control or something. the further into the article you get the fairer the framing gets, though it never actually becomes actually even handed, and the statements by the IDF are only lightly challenged, if at all. they have a couple of paragraphs quoting a spokesperson for the UN human rights office saying that israel pretty much certainly broke the 4th geneva convention. Though of course a proper article would just say that they have broken it, since it's true, and there are multiple examples of video evidence of it being the case. It's pretty infuriating

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/AP/status/982566926709936134
https://twitter.com/LukewSavage/status/982638528856076288

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




the article headline says killed when you click through. weird

Uranium
Sep 11, 2001

Through constant decay
Uranium creates
the radioactive ray.



An Interactive Guide to Ambiguous Grammar

Bear Retrieval Unit
Nov 5, 2009

Mudslide Experiment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLB9iocG82s

"Sniper shoots a Palestinian as soldiers cheer"
The IDF claims the incident happened a couple of months ago and it will be investigated thoroughly :rolleyes:

My own translation of what I can make out from the audio:

-The moment he stops you give him one
-Do you have a bullet in the chamber?
-Are you on him? Are you on him?
-yes
-he's stopping
-go, give him one
-I can't see because of the barbed wire
-c'mon...
-because of the barbed wire buddy
-Mony come here come here come here
-there's a small kid there
-he keeps ducking the moment I'm ready
-not pink, I'm on the blue one

*shot fired*

-Wow what a video! YES! Son of a bitch
-omg did you film that?
-what a video! Yeah run and evacuate him, of course I filmed that
-someone got hit in he head
-*whispering* film it, film it, wow, what a legendary video
-I didn't see it bro
-he like flew in the air with his foot
-his foot raised and he hit his other foot
-go you sons of bitches

gently caress this country and the world that sits by doing nothing and gently caress my life.

:qq: You can't compare it! :qq:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcyLRTB9fRY

Bear Retrieval Unit has issued a correction as of 21:00 on Apr 9, 2018

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012
love to defend israel

paul_soccer10
Mar 28, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Bear Retrieval Unit posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLB9iocG82s

"Sniper shoots a Palestinian as soldiers cheer"
The IDF claims the incident happened a couple of months ago and it will be [b]investigated thoroughly[b] :rolleyes:

My own translation of what I can make out from the audio:

-The moment he stops you give him one
-Do you have a bullet in the chamber?
-Are you on him? Are you on him?
-yes
-he's stopping
-go, give him one
-I can't see because of the barbed wire
-c'mon...
-because of the barbed wire buddy
-Mony come here come here come here
-there's a small kid there
-he keeps ducking the moment I'm ready
-not pink, I'm on the blue one

*shot fired*

-Wow what a video! YES! Son of a bitch
-omg did you film that?
-what a video! Yeah run and evacuate him, of course I filmed that
-someone got hit in he head
-*whispering* film it, film it, wow, what a legendary video
-I didn't see it bro
-he like flew in the air with his foot
-his foot raised and he hit his other foot
-go you sons of bitches

gently caress this country and the world that sits by doing nothing and gently caress my life.

:qq: You can't compare it! :qq:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcyLRTB9fRY


drat imagine what kind of punishment these child murderers are going to get if the IDF lives up to its famously strict code of conduct
https://twitter.com/IDFSpokesperson/status/939560344602775552

paul_soccer10
Mar 28, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

just watched this - bad

paul_soccer10 has issued a correction as of 23:54 on Apr 9, 2018

Frijolero
Jan 24, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
Hope Jeremy Corbyn wins so he can hand over all UK nukes to Iran.

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Israeli confirms video of sniper shooting unarmed Palestinian, as soldiers cheer, is genuine

Defense Minister Avigdor Lieberman told reporters that he, too, celebrated the shooting, even if the fact that it was recorded was unfortunate. “The Gaza sniper deserves a decoration, and the photographer a demerit,” he said.

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012
you only get in trouble if you get caught

Frijolero
Jan 24, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
In b4 some centrist says "Palestinian tire burning is bad for the environment."

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Darkman Fanpage posted:

you only get in trouble if you get caught

the only way israel will ever get in trouble is if they destroy a western country's embassy or something

R. Mute
Jul 27, 2011

Plutonis posted:

the only way israel will ever get in trouble is if they destroy a western country's embassy or something
i mean they've attacked western ships, killed western citizens, did a bunch of messed up stuff with mossad including breaching the sovereignty of western countries

not a lot of consequences tho

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

https://twitter.com/yousefmunayyer/status/984125130925162496?s=21

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



R. Mute posted:

i mean they've attacked western ships, killed western citizens, did a bunch of messed up stuff with mossad including breaching the sovereignty of western countries

not a lot of consequences tho

one of the people killed in that raid on the aid ships a few years ago was an american

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011
Is there literally any reason for america to support israel?

I mean it. Is sit cause we get to sell them like a million weapons?

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




america is very dumb and evil

Rigged Death Trap
Feb 13, 2012

BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

Grondoth posted:

Is there literally any reason for america to support israel?

I mean it. Is sit cause we get to sell them like a million weapons?

-lots of US companies have HQs in Israel, and many double dip on defense contracts from both US and Israel. Mostly tech and mil-ind companies.
-The certain subset of 'practically a death cult' insane evangelists that support Israel to bring on the end times.
-theyre officially a strategic and economic ally, strategic is debatable considering all the US bases in neighbouring ME countries, and Mossads historical unwillingness to share US relevant intelligence.


Ways to get the US to stop supporting Israel:
They elect an egalitarian leftist.

Rigged Death Trap has issued a correction as of 07:57 on Apr 12, 2018

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3
Nov 15, 2003

Perfectly reasonable position for a senior official.

KONY 2012 posted:

There are no women and children in the LRA, only combatants.

A Gnarlacious Bro
Apr 25, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Grondoth posted:

Is there literally any reason for america to support israel?

I mean it. Is sit cause we get to sell them like a million weapons?

Uh have you heard of the bible

a cyberpunk goose
May 21, 2007

A Gnarlacious Bro posted:

Uh have you heard of the bible

no

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

A Gnarlacious Bro posted:

Uh have you heard of the bible

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ait4aHO-77k

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Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012

okay there are no civilians in israel then by that logic

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