[Dune Thread] may thy knife squirt batter

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pnumoman: Sep 26, 2008; I never get the last word, and it makes me very sad.

I recently reread the Dune series (only Frank's stuff, jfc I tried his failson's stuff and I couldn't even get through one book) and I have to ask...

What is this beefswelling?

# ¿ Jul 24, 2020 11:56

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# ¿ Apr 29, 2024 15:26

pnumoman: Sep 26, 2008; I never get the last word, and it makes me very sad.

AFewBricksShy posted:

From Children of Dune

Oh...yeah... I distinctly remember reading that and I now realize my mind just edited it on the fly to "swelling".

He certainly did have some interesting prose.

# ¿ Jul 24, 2020 14:15

pnumoman: Sep 26, 2008; I never get the last word, and it makes me very sad.

Inverted Icon posted:

What if Dune, right, but it was Tundra

Ice spice? Cryospice? Frozspice?

# ¿ Jul 24, 2020 17:09

pnumoman: Sep 26, 2008; I never get the last word, and it makes me very sad.

Ingmar terdman posted:

Is Leto a volcel - the greatest thread in the history of gbs locked after 3000 years of heated debate

He died because he went from being a volcel to an incel

# ¿ Jul 25, 2020 12:29

pnumoman: Sep 26, 2008; I never get the last word, and it makes me very sad.

Meridian posted:

It's been a while since I read it, but can someone remind me what the gently caress happened in the ending of Chapterhouse? They shot themselves out into space without any kind of navigation, and two facedancers/machines/what tried to throw up some sort of net to catch the ship and missed?

That's pretty much it.

Edit: unless you forgot about the bene gesserit merging with the honored matres after murbella took over

# ¿ Jul 26, 2020 11:27

pnumoman: Sep 26, 2008; I never get the last word, and it makes me very sad.

Meridian posted:

Yeah I do remember that. I just wanted to confirm that the whole thing ended without an ending really.

Yup, no real ending and just the setup for the next book.

# ¿ Jul 26, 2020 12:59

pnumoman: Sep 26, 2008; I never get the last word, and it makes me very sad.

vortmax posted:

ULTRASPICE

I literally laughed out loud when I read the wiki summaries of the failson books and got to that part

# ¿ Jul 27, 2020 02:37

pnumoman: Sep 26, 2008; I never get the last word, and it makes me very sad.

Phlegmish posted:

Ahh, that actually makes sense. Now I just wonder if the Handlers are just the hunters (Face Dancers Gone Wild) in the context of handling Futars, or an entirely separate thing altogether.

I'm just going to make my vague understanding of the six books my headcanon, i have no particular desire to read Herbert Jr.'s books.

My guess is that the Handlers and the two fantastical beings at the end of Chapterhouse are both pieces of the bene teilax that went to the scattering. The Handlers being the masters that went all in on genetic engineering, hence the futars, and the those other two beings being the end point of face dancers that went rogue. Duncan existed beyond time or whatever after he regained every one of his past lives, so it seems like those two hyper face dancers or whatever got to that point and beyond way before Duncan did.

# ¿ Jul 28, 2020 15:31

pnumoman: Sep 26, 2008; I never get the last word, and it makes me very sad.

Thunder Moose posted:

You know - I've noticed this trend with other sci fi authors like Card: Herbert's books get more esoteric as they advance - and by book 4 I am completely put off.

Am I just too stupid to appreciate the later books w/ fishspeakers and whatever the gently caress - or are they viewed by you all as inferior products to the original book? My view is 1 is the GOAT, 2 and 3 are good sort-of, and everything after is a crap shoot of weird.

I pretty much agree except I do kinda like all of them. I like the ones past 3 because they're a crapshoot of weird. And all of them definitely straight up inferior to 1.

# ¿ Jul 29, 2020 05:37

pnumoman: Sep 26, 2008; I never get the last word, and it makes me very sad.

Yeah, the superhuman caloric needs was a nice touch, and I appreciated how different the food was described for Teg vs the sisterhood. Really made it feel like Teg was on a distant planet wolfing down strange but delicious food while the sisterhood was eating poo poo we ancient savages would recognize immediately.

# ¿ Jul 30, 2020 01:21

pnumoman: Sep 26, 2008; I never get the last word, and it makes me very sad.

phasmid posted:

Miles Teg also took massive dumps because of his food intake. This was the one time in all this thread that a derail about poop would be appropriate. But no. Wiseasses.

Shai hulud from his rear end

# ¿ Jul 30, 2020 04:06

pnumoman: Sep 26, 2008; I never get the last word, and it makes me very sad.

Leto II with sheeana in the desert: "still ain't got your flap on, eh?"

loving put your flap on

Edit: oops, meant siona

# ¿ Jul 30, 2020 14:53

pnumoman: Sep 26, 2008; I never get the last word, and it makes me very sad.

Phlegmish posted:

Oh OK I guess that makes it alright then

Everyone here is too afraid of the Fremen to speak out, but I'm going to say it anyway, they're regressive chuds, if not outright fascists, and I don't care if it's their traditional culture or whatever. That's not an excuse.

I think you're confusing the sardaukar with the fremen, hth

# ¿ Aug 13, 2020 15:20

pnumoman: Sep 26, 2008; I never get the last word, and it makes me very sad.

BeanpolePeckerwood posted:

1. no dune movie at all
2. getting a critically acclaimed dune part one that no one sees and doesnt get a part two
3. getting a two-movie dune that sucks rear end

Me too

# ¿ Aug 23, 2020 06:21

pnumoman: Sep 26, 2008; I never get the last word, and it makes me very sad.

Doc Hawkins posted:

an explanation is given, you can decide for yourself if it actually explains that

Bursting sausages and all

# ¿ Aug 26, 2020 11:29

pnumoman: Sep 26, 2008; I never get the last word, and it makes me very sad.

Seriously, does anyone ever wear their loving stillsuit mask? Do they even have stillsuit masks in any of the images? (Yes, I know it's unreasonable to expect actors in a movie to have their mouth covered, but can they at least have them and just pretend to use them all the time?)

Not gonna let that ruin my enjoyment of the actual movie, but man does it bother me when I have nothing but some leaked stills from a goddamn trailer that I can't even watch yet.

Edit: whoops, just noticed the mask, please ignore this post

# ¿ Aug 26, 2020 17:55

pnumoman: Sep 26, 2008; I never get the last word, and it makes me very sad.

Ingmar terdman posted:

Got some mask compliance in front of shai hulud as well for the people worried about that

Haha! Yes! Water discipline!

# ¿ Aug 28, 2020 17:34

pnumoman: Sep 26, 2008; I never get the last word, and it makes me very sad.

Anne Frank Funk posted:

let's try this, don't click if you don't want to see it, etc.: https://streamable.com/qr2avv

100% potato quality but at least I synced the audio

Dear god let this movie be good. My beefswelling needs relief. Trailer is about as encouraging as I could hope for

# ¿ Aug 29, 2020 20:57

pnumoman: Sep 26, 2008; I never get the last word, and it makes me very sad.

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

it'll probably bore the standard moviegoing audience to tears, and be a big flop (knock on wood) and i will still sit there clapping like an idiot

So Blade Runner (and 2049) all over again. I'm cool with that

# ¿ Aug 31, 2020 15:32

pnumoman: Sep 26, 2008; I never get the last word, and it makes me very sad.

Johnny Aztec posted:

Yeah, I'm not really happy with the stillsuits, but honestly, I don't even know what I want, as far as that goes.
So, I'm not gonna focus on em too much.

I just wanna see motherfuckers with their masks on. WATER DISCIPLINE

# ¿ Sep 2, 2020 20:10

pnumoman: Sep 26, 2008; I never get the last word, and it makes me very sad.

Bubblyblubber posted:

FINE!

# ¿ Sep 8, 2020 14:35

pnumoman: Sep 26, 2008; I never get the last word, and it makes me very sad.

Beefwetting

# ¿ Sep 8, 2020 18:56

pnumoman: Sep 26, 2008; I never get the last word, and it makes me very sad.

Really hope all this Hollywood hype bullshit works, because while I'd rather have a good movie that bombs than a bad movie that's wildly successful, I want my beefswelling to be in response to an epic movie that's a smash hit so I can get more and more DUNC

# ¿ Sep 9, 2020 17:18

pnumoman: Sep 26, 2008; I never get the last word, and it makes me very sad.

THEY WERE WEARING THEIR MASKS! MY BEEFSWELLING!

# ¿ Sep 9, 2020 17:30

pnumoman: Sep 26, 2008; I never get the last word, and it makes me very sad.

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

the good news is that the nature of hollywood investments these days is that it's almost impossible for them to fail financially now. the market is so big you have to gently caress up pretty badly to lose money

i mean even the world of warcraft movie made triple its money back

I agree, but I mean a hit in terms of how the studio determines what projects to push next. They definitely won't lose money, and they'll most likely make a large amount of money, but whether that's enough for studio execs to view it as something worth pursuing for multiple sequels is another matter entirely.

# ¿ Sep 9, 2020 17:35

pnumoman: Sep 26, 2008; I never get the last word, and it makes me very sad.

Now that they're wearing masks, my next thing is gonna be a cOLorFuL seitch. If I don't see fabrics in eye-searingly rich red colors in the seitch, I'ma be disappointed. Rich colors, rich smells.

# ¿ Sep 11, 2020 03:38

pnumoman: Sep 26, 2008; I never get the last word, and it makes me very sad.

Galewolf posted:

Breaking away from the "Where do you gently caress a level 3 guild navigator?" chat, I wanted to share an interesting discussion about Dune in Turkish sci-fi groups.

I have never read Dune in English, the first translation was made around the late '90s by two exceptional translators (I think one of them is also a literature professor) which is beyond perfect as translations go because they made a great deal of research in Arabic and Turkish language to bring out the underlying themes Herbert had.

It's hard to describe but one example is krys knife -> hancer-i figan translation. Hancer is Arabic for dagger and figan is, a Farsi word that can be roughly translated as "a wail caused by pain". Both words are used in Turkish and that translation really elevated the symbolism behind it.

So, anyway, the translators were having a facebook discussion about that og translation and possibly Herbert was really big into how a text sounds when it's read out loud so suggested his students to read their writings loudly. The translators did that with the English translation and noticed that Frank used words including the letter "s" more frequently in the desert section of the book so when read out loud it would simulate the sounds of moving sands in the desert, a continuous "sssssssss" sound. So the translators chose the Turkish translation to have as much as appropriate words that also use s to keep the theme.

There is no direct quote from Herbet about this (I think he mentions how your mental sound is important during reading somewhere) and it is entirely based on the assumptions of the translators but I thought it sounded neat and wanted to share with my goonbros.

That's loving awesome

# ¿ Sep 12, 2020 14:23

pnumoman: Sep 26, 2008; I never get the last word, and it makes me very sad.

Can't wait for the flood of people discovering Dune, no matter how it comes about

# ¿ Sep 13, 2020 23:47

pnumoman: Sep 26, 2008; I never get the last word, and it makes me very sad.

Goodbye thread, it was nice posting in here for a bit. Gonna go back to being a lonely Dune fan who doesn't engage with the fan base online, at least until the movie actually comes out

# ¿ Sep 17, 2020 22:35

pnumoman: Sep 26, 2008; I never get the last word, and it makes me very sad.

Tree Bucket posted:

-My father has a subforum.
-He's losing it.
-He's getting a more specialised one!
-He'll lose that too.

# ¿ Sep 18, 2020 01:18

pnumoman: Sep 26, 2008; I never get the last word, and it makes me very sad.

exmachina posted:

But full of people who will probably see it anyway

This. I don't wanna talk with people who want to discuss endless minutiae, I want to talk with people who are just discovering this poo poo or who, like myself, don't normally frequent sci-fi discussion spaces online.

# ¿ Sep 18, 2020 05:10

pnumoman: Sep 26, 2008; I never get the last word, and it makes me very sad.

Bubblyblubber posted:

Man, fat drunk orson welles would make a perfect worm emperor.

AaaaaaaAAhhh Duncan IDAHO, always celebraTED for his beefswELLINgs

What's the point of AI deepfake stuff if it isn't to make things like this?

# ¿ Sep 19, 2020 21:49

pnumoman: Sep 26, 2008; I never get the last word, and it makes me very sad.

davidspackage posted:

Did any of you guys get the family atomics? Mine went to my older brother but I bet he's never going to actually use them.

Lemme tell you, I got them and they're totally not worth it. They're incredibly bulky, rusting to poo poo, and I'm not even sure they work anymore. Heaven forbid I try one out, the whole landsraad gets a bug up its rear end about the Great Convention. I mean, what's the point of having these atomics if you're never gonna use them? Might as well strap some shields on cannonfodder and shoot them in the back with a lasgun

# ¿ Sep 26, 2020 06:11

pnumoman: Sep 26, 2008; I never get the last word, and it makes me very sad.

Ror posted:

Yeah, but then you learn about that One Cool Trick the Landsraad hates and start nuking whatever inanimate objects you want.

Look, you ever try blowing up inanimate objects? Gets very boring very quick. What's the point of being a duke if you can't kill your subjects in whatever manner you choose? I mean, what am I, an Atredies that coddles his people? Or a Harkkonen that tortures them? Nah, I just wanna see a bunch of condemned criminals get blasted to smithereens by an atomic without the landsraad getting all up in my business, is that so much to ask?

Man, it's tough being a galactic duke.

# ¿ Sep 26, 2020 06:27

pnumoman: Sep 26, 2008; I never get the last word, and it makes me very sad.

mossyfisk posted:

Can you actually pay the Guild to take your House, shields and atomics to a secret planet and leave the empire forever?

Or do you think they just leave you in space somewhere and laugh about it.

I think their stance on one-way trips is to shrug their fish shoulders and say, "as long as you have the spice to pay for it"

# ¿ Sep 26, 2020 08:21

pnumoman: Sep 26, 2008; I never get the last word, and it makes me very sad.

Jfc, and the serfs wonder why they have to be kept on a leash. Hit that semuta and stop thinking, we have mentats for that

# ¿ Sep 26, 2020 14:51

pnumoman: Sep 26, 2008; I never get the last word, and it makes me very sad.

Galewolf posted:

I might be blurry on later books but ultraspice was failson thing, right?

Oh yeah. From aquatic worms on caladan or some poo poo. That was a wild wiki romp when I decided to look through a summary of the failson books

# ¿ Sep 29, 2020 20:44

pnumoman: Sep 26, 2008; I never get the last word, and it makes me very sad.

Ingmar terdman posted:

Mask discipline has consequences. We are all siona now

# ¿ Oct 6, 2020 00:49

pnumoman: Sep 26, 2008; I never get the last word, and it makes me very sad.

Yeah, I wouldn't pay attention to any future dates more specific than year and quarter. Specific dates will only start to matter when theaters actually start coming back

# ¿ Oct 6, 2020 03:44

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# ¿ Apr 29, 2024 15:26

pnumoman: Sep 26, 2008; I never get the last word, and it makes me very sad.

Yadoppsi posted:

I know right. I knew to avoid Dune Cast right away because they were promoting an interview with Kevin J Anderson on Twitter, but imagine my disgust listening to the other discussing the drunken Idaho scene from the first book and exclaiming that when he was ranting he first bloodied his sword on Grundar or wherever that it must be a mistake and Frank didn't double check his notes because [prequel book] says he first killed on Gedi Prime.

Jfc

# ¿ Oct 6, 2020 14:18

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