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Murmur Twin posted:Phoneposting Yup, go ahead and use it to top off.
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King Burgundy posted:This part is really important. My access is going to be limited this weekend but I want to help. Off the top of my head: - I know I’m town - Kash / fl get an “implied town” pass from me - I’m inclined to trust IS and Slaan due to heals - I think tobbs is town based on how he’s played - if tobbs is town I think Hats and YPM are town based on his results - I think gamer is town from battle results Of the people left - Sal, Hal, tq, genex - Sal is the person who has had the least to contribute (I don’t remember battle results off the top of my head but believes the others have all been in?). Sal - if not you, who is scum and why?
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Jan 20, 2018 07:57
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Still waiting on Hal. We have no NK claim yet, right?
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Jan 20, 2018 08:21
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Murmur Twin posted:My access is going to be limited this weekend but I want to help. Off the top of my head: I mean, cool, but this isn't really casing. It is absolutely a good first step to help decide who to focus on, sure. And it is one of many things I'm doing in the background with even more information. But among other things, you've listed a dead person as one of your people left. Also you seem to be putting the onus on finding scum on the least experienced person here. Which sure, is great if he's scum, but if he's not, isn't exactly going to yield huge dividends. Also, I want to emphasize this from the rules: quote:== THE SCUM == Scum probably have tricksy things, so this isn't the be all and end all, but it does make me think that it is possible, that a scum in the front line, could attack the enemies front line(I am in the dark on this, but it makes sense to me and was one of the things I complained about in the last version of this game). So while YPM absolutely did a positive thing in this battle, he isn't clear for the war.
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Jan 20, 2018 08:21
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Murmur Twin posted:My access is going to be limited this weekend but I want to help. Off the top of my head: I mean at this point I don't give a gently caress if I get lynched or not. I'm town that's what I know for sure. Unfortunately I won't really have a lot of time to case due to work commitments. You are my biggest scum read followed by YPM. ##vote MMT
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Jan 20, 2018 10:11
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I've tried not to be a loving whiner but I haven't participated in 2/3rds of this game. It's not very fun after awhile.
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Jan 20, 2018 10:12
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King Burgundy posted:
Ok, set and ready to heal boss
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Jan 20, 2018 13:31
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Was there a NK yesterday?
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Jan 20, 2018 14:12
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Jan 20, 2018 14:33
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I was not NKd
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Jan 20, 2018 15:02
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So no NK, everyone reported in? Can scum NK if they are in battle?
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Jan 20, 2018 15:42
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Nope. That said, I don't think we should read too much into the lack of a NK. It can be withheld, after all.
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Jan 20, 2018 15:44
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The Lord of Hats posted:Nope. Yeah agreed, just confirming rules
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Jan 20, 2018 15:49
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It makes more sense to try to do as much damage as possible as the last scum. As for YPM, I still am waiting for DN to show up in the other thread. YPM targeted them, but I'd like to see a damage report.
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Jan 20, 2018 16:21
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Although, if scum hides successfully, we have to lynch every day. 1 in 12 can be hard to tease out.
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Jan 20, 2018 16:22
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Looks like DN took piles of damage, feeling better about YPM.
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Jan 20, 2018 17:37
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SalTheBard posted:I think that's the only answer. Nk-ing a heavy makes no sense otherwise. What’s the rationale behind this?
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Jan 20, 2018 17:40
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SalTheBard posted:I mean at this point I don't give a gently caress if I get lynched or not. I'm town that's what I know for sure. Unfortunately I won't really have a lot of time to case due to work commitments. You are my biggest scum read followed by YPM. ##vote MMT Off memory - why am I your biggest scum read?
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Jan 20, 2018 17:50
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King Burgundy posted:I mean, cool, but this isn't really casing. It is absolutely a good first step to help decide who to focus on, sure. And it is one of many things I'm doing in the background with even more information. But among other things, you've listed a dead person as one of your people left. Also you seem to be putting the onus on finding scum on the least experienced person here. Which sure, is great if he's scum, but if he's not, isn't exactly going to yield huge dividends. Yeah I can hold my hand up and admit that this one particular weekend isn’t the best for me to be able to do stuff. I’m visiting a friend I haven’t seen in months and I doubt I’m going to have computer time before leaving here and going into work. Re: casework, I think it’s Sal. I’m a strong believer in the idea that the game gets less fun for scum as more and more people get confirmed town, and I feel like we’re seeing that from him. The only reason to think battle is 2/3rd of the game is if “hunting for scum” isn’t on the list of things to do. When I ask for his reads, it’s more to help determine his alignment than out of hope that he’ll drop a Gotcha! case on the last scum
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Jan 20, 2018 17:59
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Tobbs Gnawed posted:It makes more sense to try to do as much damage as possible as the last scum. FWIW, I'd be kind of surprised if an NK had happened. If for example, there was only one scum left like people have been theorizing, any NK would hard clear every single person in combat. The NK would act as a super cop for us. The only way I see it happening going forward is if we have two scum left, or an inexperienced scum, or someone who knows they are going out any moment and just wants to do as much damage as possible before they go. Having said that, I'd be really excited if they did. I deliberately avoided commenting on the above just to see what happened. I figured if an NK happened it would point the finger pretty hard at only one or two people. The lack of NK just leaves us a bit in the dark. It's true, it could be because they were in combat. But it could also be because they are smart/good players and realized what that would do. So if you want to take something from the lack of NK, take that.
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Jan 20, 2018 18:02
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Tobbs Gnawed posted:Looks like DN took piles of damage, feeling better about YPM. DN was NK'd and then didn't get healed, unless secretly by Bif. So he is confirming a hit there, but he's not necessarily saying he got hit hard, just that it was enough to bring him down the rest of the way. Which may not have been much. YPM's own description of his ability is that it does middling damage. I was thinking that would be enough to seal the deal, but apparently not.
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Jan 20, 2018 18:10
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Murmur Twin posted:Off memory - why am I your biggest scum read? Interactions with Quid and Peck along with blowing off people that cased them. Note that CL was with me too and he is 100% town.
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Jan 20, 2018 18:12
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Murmur Twin posted:What’s the rationale behind this? My rationale is that the Texas scum is getting cocky so killing a heavy makes total sense to increase deaths for the Texas.
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Jan 20, 2018 18:13
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SalTheBard posted:Interactions with Quid and Peck along with blowing off people that cased them. Note that CL was with me too and he is 100% town. Uhhh so your read on me is based on interactions with two people that have been dead since n2? Has anything I’ve said since then left an impact? [url=”[url]https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3844978&perpage=40&pagenumber=4#post480056160”]here[/url] is every interaction I had with peck for the record, which one(s) fueled your opinion on me the most?
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Jan 20, 2018 18:17
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Fuckin a I hate trying to format on a phone lol
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Jan 20, 2018 18:18
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At this point MMT my give a gently caress is zero. I know my alignment. I'm town, if you think I'm scum vote for me, if you think I'm town vote for someone else. It's not fun being in a game where 2/3rds of it is not accessible. KB you have done a great job leading so don't take this as any insult to you.
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Jan 20, 2018 18:23
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I also agree that the lack of nightkill doesn't speak one way or the other about where the scum was last night. YPM's target makes me feel nominally better because at least it shows he was telling the truth about that ability. I, like MMT, think Sal is the correct vote for today from a content perspective.
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Jan 20, 2018 18:25
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So if you think Sal is scum. To confirm, you also think he was experienced enough to know he shouldn't NK last night with no coaching if he's alone?
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Jan 20, 2018 18:27
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King Burgundy posted:So if you think Sal is scum. To confirm, you also think he was experienced enough to know he shouldn't NK last night with no coaching if he's alone? He’d be in a chat with Bif, no? ##vote Sal
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Flying Leatherman posted:I also agree that the lack of nightkill doesn't speak one way or the other about where the scum was last night. Cool I'll make it easy ##vote SalTheBard
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Jan 20, 2018 18:27
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Oh poo poo that vote was left over from another post, one sec
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Jan 20, 2018 18:28
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Sal. Never vote yourself unless you are scum and giving up.
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Jan 20, 2018 18:29
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Murmur Twin posted:He’d be in a chat with Bif, no? No, he's not in a chat with Bif.
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Jan 20, 2018 18:29
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SalTheBard posted:My rationale is that the Texas scum is getting cocky so killing a heavy makes total sense to increase deaths for the Texas. I’m suspicious that you’re putting thought at all into “who would be the best NK target” given your lack of time to make cases. This is where I was going to vote before.
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Jan 20, 2018 18:30
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King Burgundy posted:Sal. Never vote yourself unless you are scum and giving up. I'm town and giving up. My fate was sealed as soon as CL flipped town
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Jan 20, 2018 18:30
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Murmur Twin posted:I’m suspicious that you’re putting thought at all into “who would be the best NK target” given your lack of time to make cases. Why? It's not loving rocket science that taking out tanks weekend the front line. It's a Warcraft raiding 101. Tanks take damage.
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Jan 20, 2018 18:32
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SalTheBard posted:I'm town and giving up. My fate was sealed as soon as CL flipped town A whopping two people have claimed they want to vote you, one of whom you think is scum. I think you need to take a step back.
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Jan 20, 2018 18:32
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King Burgundy posted:So if you think Sal is scum. To confirm, you also think he was experienced enough to know he shouldn't NK last night with no coaching if he's alone? I think that that's a call that'd be possible to make when YPM, the other guy that was under suspicion, was in combat, yeah. King Burgundy posted:No, he's not in a chat with Bif. Would Bif have been able to communicate this at all? Is it like the send a message every day thing in Qal?
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Jan 20, 2018 18:32
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King Burgundy posted:No, he's not in a chat with Bif. Hm. I dunno - I reread Hal and TQ looking for a second-best choice and they both seemed town to me. I’m very aware that Chaos was me just harping on “I’m sure he’s scum” and people just kind of rolled with it so I’d personally love it if other people would actually try and search on this one game day where I’m temporarily indisposed (and yet still trying to hunt)
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SalTheBard posted:Why? It's not loving rocket science that taking out tanks weakens the front line. It's a Warcraft raiding 101. Tanks take damage.
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