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Teal posted:Couldn't you define "pure capitalism" as always going with the choice that can be justified on basis of pure economical analysis of the situation ( something like deal {A involving resources i,j,k and capital exchenge x} versus deal {B involving l,m,n and capital exchange y}, chose one) no the idea that you can break individual human behavior down into clean formulas like that is a lie, one that's been sold to you by economists to convince you that the capitalists just have to oppress you because it's economically optimal there is no "pure formula" in the first place
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LGD posted:this is true, but it's basically "this is how rent seeking/corruption works under capitalism" rent-seeking/corruption is inherent to capitalism, because the people who write the laws and enforce the regulations are also active participants in the capitalist system. the government exists to benefit businesses and protect the rich, who also run the government the idea that the government is some immune hands-off thing that doesn't participate in the economy is a ridiculous illusion
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Apr 3, 2018 20:59
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LGD posted:the whole point to democratic capitalism/social democracy is that a democratic government is supposed to participate in the economy but in a way that benefits the people, what you're describing is a captured government (which is what we have and what people are highly incentivized to create) the point of social democracy is to weaken socialists and render them harmless by disassociating them from the narrative of class struggle and committing them to maintaining the capitalist system. giving some token concessions to the people in exchange for maintaining overall control in the hands of the rich the political class are mediators and arbitrators employed by the executive class, seeking to balance the interests of the rich with the anger of everyone else in a way that holds together the overall class hierarchy regardless of what you call the system, there's no inherent measure in social democracy that protects it from the political and economic manipulations of the rich. the power that protects it lies in the hands of the people, not the government
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Apr 3, 2018 21:56
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LGD posted:I genuinely don't think there's any (human-run) solid state system that's not prone to being undermined by self-interested behavior over time. the difference is that under capitalism, the government is explicitly designed to help and support business "crony capitalism" just means that the government has leaned too much in favor of a particular business (and thus all that business's rivals come together to denounce it), or that the corruption has grown to such a level that it's impeding the basic function of government (see also: James A Garfield)
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Apr 4, 2018 00:02
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pushpins posted:https://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/08/realestate/in-williamsburg-brooklyn-room-for-a-baby.html?smid=tw-share why is that adult on the left pretending to be a kid who's pretending to be an adult
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Fuzzy McDoom posted:https://twitter.com/coindesk/status/981532292572221440 that's small potatoes compared to this motherfucker's affordable childcare plan quote:The Child Care Equity Fund will invest capital in eligible families that apply for the program to cover a portion of child care costs. The terms of the agreement — size of the investment, payback percentage and duration — will vary from family to family based on the amount of financing, income, and risk profile. The payback period will start once the child has entered school and last a period of years (at maximum until the child graduates high school). Like a company repaying an investor (rather than a debtor repaying a lender), the parents will not owe a monthly debt payment but rather a fixed percentage of monthly income to the Fund. literally taking out loans to pay for little Timmy's daycare. this is better than the state's current system, where the state just pays for it and doesn't need to be reimbursed, because _________
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Apr 5, 2018 22:03
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Apr 6, 2018 19:21
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StashAugustine posted:Black teen misses bus, gets shot at after asking for directions in Rochester Hills there is one big difference between this and the usual "minority kid knocks in door, immediately shot at by racist homeowner" incident namely, the racist homeowner had one of those fancy camera doorbells, which recorded the whole thing
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Apr 13, 2018 17:16
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Ytlaya posted:The thing that I find surprisingly difficult to communicate to most liberals is that, on a basic logical level, it is impossible for anyone to "deserve" their wealth in a system with a huge amount of unfairness. Like, they'll acknowledge the unfairness while simultaneously believing some people deserve their wealth, which is logically incoherent. they think they can just pause the race, fix the problems, and then resume it. maybe adjust some people's positions a bit to account for the effect of the problems, maybe not. they think there's just some mistakes and abuses in the system, they don't get that the system is fundamentally broken
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Apr 14, 2018 21:36
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Ytlaya posted:Well, that's the thing; a lot of liberals will openly acknowledge that society isn't a meritocracy, but then also claim that some people deserve to be wealthy. At least the conservatives/libertarians who think it's already a meritocracy are logically coherent, but liberals try to simultaneously acknowledge the unfairness inherent to society while also believing some people are deserving of their financial success. they fundamentally believe that a meritocracy is not only attainable, but both good and desirable. they idealize the idea of a meritocratic market economy where people who work hard and contribute well are better off. they're fine with a fair amount of inequality, as long as the inequality is for a "good reason" they may quibble about the details and the execution, but they basically believe that our current system is essentially good and merely needs to be improved rather than changed. same with capitalism. that's why they're focusing their rhetoric on breaking up monopolies and combating corruption: they believe that market capitalism is the best system, and merely needs to be tweaked to take out the factors that are skewing it and causing it to work improperly
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du -hast posted:I guess I'm just dumb but are the numbers here equal to the 10%? IE the $145,000 for San Diego is the 10% downpayment on a presumably 1.45 million dollar house? Because even though it's expensive as gently caress to live in say, Los Angeles, the average house price can't possibly >$1m 
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Apr 16, 2018 15:33
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Doctor Spaceman posted:at least with space there's a lot of room for innovation and new ideas. His stupid tunnelling project is literally about making his personal commute easier and is impossible to scale up to be useful for mass transit since it takes up too much room. He doesn't get why public transport works or why people use it and thinks that everyone shares his dumb hangups about being near other humans i'm reminded of that one "luxury bus lines for tech workers" startup that removed all handicapp-accessibility features from their buses in order to make room for laptop tables and fancy leather armchairs
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Apr 20, 2018 15:37
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Kitfox88 posted:If soylent actually worked and wasn't just slimfast shakes that give you fungus and or insane squirts I'd be mainlining that poo poo for every meal because I'm a picky eater autist and cooking is irritating buy ensure or something there's plenty of meal-replacement shakes already, they're just not that well-known because mostly marketed toward people who are literally physically incapable of eating solid food, rather than insane nerds who are too lazy to make themselves a loving sandwich hell, unlike soylent, most of the medical meal-replacement shakes have been evaluated by actual nutritionists, rather than some insane nerd who thinks that pooping is a waste of water
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Apr 24, 2018 20:44
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in Sweden, too there was a bunch of noise about it when Ikea started opening manufacturing plants in the US, paying workers less than half as much as their European counterparts, and hiring union-busters to prevent the new factories from organizing
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Apr 26, 2018 15:03
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Teal posted:Well I have a problem with this on two levels. Firstly, "personal charity" enables people in believing that that tenner they spared for brother's pack of cigs or their ten thousand dollars yearly contribution to cancer research absolved them of further material obligation towards rest of the society and now it's time to squeeze blood out of some loving tennants; oh don't you dare say I'm heartless, I'm in fact really loving charitable. Of course I want to help people, but it's up to me to decide who's deserving of my help. this post deffo belongs in the guillotine thread, holy poo poo
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Apr 27, 2018 23:01
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"homeless people can afford to eat so they must also be able to afford a home" is the loving dumbest poo poo in this era of skyrocketing housing prices alleging that homeless people are partnering with organized crime to obtain puppies for sympathy and then discard or abandon them when they grow up goes beyond bizarre - that's just straight-up monsterizing them
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Apr 28, 2018 01:25
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me: we don't need welfare, all those poor people should just go get jobs also me: nobody is entitled to have a job, it is a privilege that can and should be withdrawn at any time for displeasing me with ridiculous requests like needing to pick your kid up from school
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Apr 30, 2018 20:49
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The fact that Amazon valued you as worth less than a robot (accurate) is not my problem ahahahahaaahahb
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May 2, 2018 01:07
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Shugojin posted:Just throwing this out there, but a really super important function of medical personnel is to get the patient to actually tell the full story, including anything they don't realize is relevant because they are not a doctor one recent trend that seems to be growing legs is remote doctors, where you just Skype in and whichever doctor happens to be on call and not busy gets assigned to look at your horrible rear end cancer and prescribe you tylenol combine that with the remote surgery stuff that's been seeing use in specialized applications for a while, and I wouldn't be surprised if doctoring ended up on a call center model twenty years down the line
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May 2, 2018 13:55
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:lol robotic laparoscopic surgery is done in the same room using a team of doctors because it turns out that: lol if you think that "remote doctoring is far lower-quality than in-person doctoring" somehow invalidates "the four bottom quintiles of American earners are all going to be served exclusively by remote doctors in twenty years". just look at our broken-rear end system. no one gives a gently caress if a chronic pain sufferer gets treated right unless they're a millionaire - just give them a bottle of opiates if they're white and a "get the gently caress out of here, druggie scum" if they're black, and bill insurance for fifty bucks per minute spent with the patient human decision-making isnt going to be completely eliminated in our lifetimes. the focus of automation is going to be using it "efficiently" - by which I mean, efficiently for the companies siphoning off the profits, which means as few human decision-makers as possible working as few billable hours as possible. leaning as heavily as possible on remote work for any procedure that's even slightly routine allows companies to go to a call center model, or even worse, an Uber model (where all the doctors are on-call independent contractors who are only paid when they're actually working with a patient)
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i mean, hp hover isn't wrong that Skype doctoring is usually going to be massively inferior to being in the same room as the doctor, and remote procedures have some pretty clear limitations but this is America, where "does this make the CEO the most money" is far higher on the list of priorities than "is this the most effective way of meeting people's needs" don't think of fully-automated luxury space communist doctoring, think of "well, your insurance covers Skyping with a doctor for free but requires you to pay a 50% copay for an in-person visit". people make sub-optimal healthcare choices all the loving time just because the best way is more expensive and our entire system is unaffordable
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SKULL.GIF posted:article is guillotine.txt, tweet is good: the best part is that the author was already rich by the time she decided she wanted to be rich her bio says she graduated from The Shipley School, an exclusive and expensive private school that costs roughly $40k a year
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May 2, 2018 21:12
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Ytlaya posted:Haha, holy poo poo, at first I assumed you were referring to the college she went to, but yeah, no one who isn't rich can spend that much on private school (no one who isn't fairly well-off to begin with goes to any private school, but one that expensive is particularly exceptional). Tuition 2018-2019 Pre-K - $22,800 Kindergarten - $26,200 Grades 1 & 2 - $29,500 Grades 3, 4, & 5 - $31,700 Grades 6, 7, & 8 - $35,100 Grades 9, 10, 11, & 12 - $38,500 
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double posting because i don't wanna sit on this awful article all goddamn night https://twitter.com/SoFi/status/991746645271265280
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Horseshoe theory posted:Is this basically the HENRY.jpg article from WSJ? it's a p comprehensive version, with a sample budget ($2100/mo on food, $600/mo on entertainment, $650/mo toward vacations, $700/mo college savings for the infant, etc), an in-depth explanation of why it's not really worth making any more than $300k because your taxes will get too high, and a number of examples of other hypothetical families making six digits to show how easy it really is to make $300k if you really try
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May 3, 2018 04:06
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actually, being middle class is easyquote:Before we look at the income statement, I'd like to go through a list of various workers who will eventually make ~$300,000 on their own or in household income if they find someone who also works.
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Rated PG-34 posted:https://www.financialsamurai.com/abolish-welfare-mentality-six-figure-bart-janitor/ check out all the examples he links to of people who easily earn lots of money, they're all his articles and they're all incredibly bad my favorite is the Chinese art student one because it's super racist it starts off complaining about how rich Chinese immigrants don't fit the Asian stereotype and how their "nouveau rich" attitudes are bothersome to their wealthy neighbors because they don't have the proper humility, and then proceeds to teach the reader some (mostly racist) tricks on how to understand the minds of the Chinese in order to make money off them (example: help a Chinese person out in tough times and they will owe you a life debt, not only being loyal and respectful to you for the rest of their life but also instructing their children to do likewise)
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May 3, 2018 20:31
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orange sky posted:I've always been convinced by movies and TV shows that even the Ivy league colleges had very good distribution between rich and poor people due to generous scholarships the actual Ivy Leagues are actually pretty generous about financial aid to deeply poor students who sufficiently outperform the school's academic requirements. but the actual number of poor people they let in is actually very low, especially compared to the countless rich failures whose application is accompanied by a million-dollar donation to the endowment. they'll occasionally let a high-performing poor in, but these are still basically elite adult daycares for rich kids, so the distribution is hilariously bad 
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Ytlaya posted:The sad thing is that a school like Harvard has no excuse at all. I can at least sort of understand other schools saying "well, we need the donation money," but Harvard doesn't. They have a loving huge endowment. There is no reason not to just flat-out mandate some sort of quota on the percent of well-off people who can get in. can't just let anyone into a school like Harvard. they have a reputation to uphold, after all colleges deeply want to seem as exclusive and selective as possible, it's good for their reputation and creates a perception of quality. also, the whole point of these elite schools is to maintain the fake meritocracy and reinforce the illusion that rich people only rule the country because they're very smart and have great educations. having a separate set of standards for poor people would go against both those goals the income distribution of Harvard students is never gonna match the general population anyway, barring luxury space communism. even being able to drop everything in your life and go halfway across the country to attend college for four years is a privilege many people just don't have, even if tuition is waived
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PostNouveau posted:It's so glorified, especially for high schoolers across most of the country who couldn't dream of going to an "elite" private school. In fact, for a lot of kids, there's usually a local elite school like Rice or Duke that they couldn't dream of getting into. if every school is the same, then how is anyone supposed to maintain the illusion that American society is a meritocracy? our parents' generation has been outright obsessed with sending their kids to "good schools" because the elite classes (who needed more skilled workers to labor for them) managed to convince everyone that smarts and education were the key that unlocks the doors to class mobility. at this point, even if you somehow managed to come up with hard data proving that all colleges are essentially equal in quality of education, they would instinctually reject it because how are they supposed to use the privileges and opportunities available to them to get their kids an advantage over the other kids if they can't send them to a bettee school than their friends' kids? it's all about class signaling, and especially about dangling the temptation of class mobility in front of the middle-class and upper-middle-class so they never realize that there's never going to be a millionaire in their family no matter how many extracurriculars they pack into their kid's life it's even worse in college because the variety of majors and tendency to attend a school far away means that you're far less likely to run into someone who actually attended the same classes that your kid will attend. so it's far more difficult for an intuitive sense of class quality to develop through word of mouth and community charter. so instead people have to rely on various proxy measures to try to guess at which schools have better classes, and the schools know about that and pour a lot of money and effort into gaming the factors they think families are going to judge. explaining to a white mother that no, the shiny new million-dollar gymnasium does not mean the school offered a better education (and in fact may actually have something to do with why the school went bankrupt and closed down) is slow and laborious work
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Rated PG-34 posted:going to a 'good school' does improve outcomes however insofar that it unlocks 'social capital' AKA nepotism only for the really well-known top schools there's approximately a zillion non-notable private universities with small enrollments that don't attract any particularly elite or connected students but play numbers games and marketing tricks to convince suburban parents they're better than the public university down the road that charges one-tenth the price
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May 4, 2018 18:16
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Wheeee posted:i wonder how many amazon employees vote Republican yeah, how stupid of them. they should support the Democrats in order to back the Dems' various proposals to protect workers and diminish corporate power, such as
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Shugojin posted:https://ballotpedia.org/California_No_Taxes_After_Age_55_Initiative_(2018) the official summary doesn't do this justice here's the actual text quote:SECTION 1. Title. This measure shall be known and may be cited as the "California Freedom
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Yinlock posted:of all the things to impersonate, why ICE so he could harass brown people (there's at least two recorded instances of him actually doing this), and so no one would question why he was taking frequent trips out to the desert (to experiment with making his own explosives). also, he seemed to think it impressed all the women at his favorite strip club, because he bragged about it a lot there the prosecutors apparently didn't bother to ask why where an unemployed guy with an alimony had the money to spare on giving his girlfriend $8k a month, but he was probably either extorting illegal immigrants, selling homemade illegal weapons to militias, or both
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May 23, 2018 14:25
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best info on her initial child molestation charge I could find is this article quote:A Gwinnett County grand jury indicted last week Shannon Noelle Bowles -- 22 years old at the time of the incident -- on one count of child molestation. The indictment charges Bowles with "kissing (a 14-year-old girl) with an open mouth and leaving 'hickies' on (her) neck." as for her latest arrest, well...if you're bored, go look up Norcross, GA on Google Maps and try to find a single point in that town that isn't within near a school, house of worship, or daycare. remember to include charter schools and private schools. hard mode: does that point have a commercial area with low-skill jobs that'll hire someone with a sex offender charge on their record?
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May 31, 2018 20:25
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mastershakeman posted:Not just a cop , a member of the hereditary nobility and beneficiary of a gigantic trust fund of money and wealth (legendary magical artifact for one) . Who then became a cop he was so evil that most characters refused to even speak his name for fear that it would somehow give him power, which makes him at least as evil as a school shooter
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Retromancer posted:That dude was shot for being drunk in his own garage and playing "loud music." it's even worse there was a bus stop across the street, and parents who were waiting at the bus stop to pick up their kids heard some hip hop beats and called the cops because they were scared their kids might hear the devil music when they got off the bus
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pushpins posted:It's weird you almost never hear about rich people doing any large scale fun/interesting things with their money. they do stuff like that, it's just so incredibly selfish that it doesn't have much reach like trying to close off public beaches for their own personal use, or taking up yachting as a hobby, or building a bunch of candy dispensers in their mansion they don't need to be visible to the masses and they don't want to be
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