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also uk boys lets get the salary chat going
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The Management posted:a Facebook recruiter hit me up yesterday. how do I tell her that everyone hates them and their stock is not going anywhere and I would be ashamed to work there, but also if you give me a fuckton of money and everything I want I’ll consider it?
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Valeyard posted:also uk boys lets get the salary chat going This won't take long
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Oct 25, 2018 22:34
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Schadenboner posted:Places that do one-sided video interviewing should die in a fire. did you try turning your monitor on?
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Oct 25, 2018 22:56
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i think i hate interviewing people. my interviewing partner seems to think that every candidate is fantastic but they don’t really stand out that much. maybe im just being too hard on them? honestly can’t tell anymore.
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Oct 26, 2018 03:05
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I've interviewed a lot of people this year and I can say without a doubt: most candidates are bad, and can't answer the most basic of questions.
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Oct 26, 2018 03:40
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PokeJoe posted:I've interviewed a lot of people this year and I can say without a doubt: most candidates are bad, and can't answer the most basic of questions. yeah. it's crazy. where do they come from?
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Oct 26, 2018 03:45
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akadajet posted:yeah. it's crazy. where do they come from? the worst candidates have to keep interviewing so
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Oct 26, 2018 03:49
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Recruiters send them to us so of course the standards are very low
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Oct 26, 2018 03:51
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imagine a room w/ 10 peeps 5 can't fizzbuzz, 4 are deec, 1 is actually good that 1 does 10 or so interviews, gets 2 or 3 offers, takes one 4 do 20 or so interviews each, gets 2 or 3 offers, takes one 5 do 50 or so interviews each, gets the one offer, takes it so 10 peeps do like 300something interviews and nearly all of them are w/ poo poo peeps
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Oct 26, 2018 04:37
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akadajet posted:yeah. it's crazy. where do they come from?
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Oct 26, 2018 05:03
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shouldn't these people doing all these interviews get better at them by virtue of having done so many of them?
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Oct 26, 2018 05:07
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bob dobbs is dead posted:imagine a room w/ 10 peeps this, except, the numbers are way worse the best guy in the ten changes jobs once a decade, sends zero apps, and does one interview. you never had a chance at that fucker. the next six change jobs every three years, each do three or four interviews. good luck finding this lot, ecause... the bottom three are fired or quit just about every year, and they’re sending thousands of applications and doing hundreds of interviews across lengthy periods of unemployment like 99% of your time in recruiting is spent on people so bad it’s unimaginable that they would be suitable for ANY position. it is the mother of all loving adverse selection problems
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Acer Pilot posted:shouldn't these people doing all these interviews get better at them by virtue of having done so many of them? there is always another bottom feeder
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:this, except, the numbers are way worse fwiw if someone is only changing tech jobs once a decade then that's a bad sign of its own imo. the best people ive worked with tend to switch every 3 or so. i think a factor in that timing is the standard 4yr equity grant schedule (whether rsus or options) but yeah when they do switch it's usually a matter of interviewing 1-2 places, usually under circumstances where someone already knows them or has heard of what they worked on at the destination
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Acer Pilot posted:i think i hate interviewing people. my interviewing partner seems to think that every candidate is fantastic but they don’t really stand out that much. maybe im just being too hard on them? honestly can’t tell anymore. There's a guy at my current place like that and I'm having to constantly knock him down a peg because he never asks probing questions and accepts lazy half answers as proof the person knows what they're on about. He also is not good at asking questions in a way that isn't completely confusing. It's just lack of experience I'd say.
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ffffffuuuuuuucccccckkkkkkk job hunting hear my tale of woe; currently in a steady, easy, but extremely boring job. was not actively looking but starting to think about it. towards the end of july a recruiting agency which i had had success with in the past approaches me about a job that is tangentially related to what I currently do. they ask what kind of pay I would be looking for so i name a figure i thought would be at least 25% over the max for the position. they say that that’s reasonable and ask when I would be available to interview. the date gets set for early august and I figure out what the company is the position isn’t listed on their website, i assume because the recruiter is handling everything. the company is employee owned and seems to put a heavy influence on employee enrichment and happiness. great this could be awesome I begin to think to myself. I interview, it goes well, they give me details about career path, timelines, insurance (extremely good), etc. immediately after the interview I check in with recruiter, they tell me that they have a call very soon with the company and they will have likely made a decision. great excellent. about an hour after that recruiter calls back and tells me the company loved me and thought I would be a great fit, are giving me a soft offer and to anticipate a hard offer by the end of the week. wow perfect this was the easiest process ever. the end of the week passes, I check in with recruiter. oh they are just waiting on a signature from some dude who’s on vacation and will be back the following week. ok not too bad, I can wait a week. the week passes, the recruiter calls; oh they’re having a company wide conference in 2 weeks and want to wait until after that to hire anyone. hmmmmm a little concerned but ok I’m not unemployed I can wait a bit longer. conference comes and goes, recruiter says, uh oh they did some reorganization and may not actually want to hire anyone at this time, they now want to wait until q4 to re-evaluate. awwww poops maybe there’s still a chance. waiting waiting, q4 begins. recruiter calls says they have a meeting scheduled to “determine their position with the company”. recruiter goes silent. yesterday the company posts the position on their website. fuckkkkkk i apply and message the person I had interviewed with through linkedin. not a peep yet. how boned am I? am I right in assuming that company has kicked the recruiter to the curb? and that there may be some contractual thingie that would prevent them from pursuing me on their own?
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KoRMaK posted:bootcamps.... poo poo, that would at least explain things. but these peeps have like 4 year cs degrees and years of experience on their resumes and then they can't explain what a for loop is
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add some endlines to that or source your quotes my dude
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Ragtime All The Time posted:ffffffuuuuuuucccccckkkkkkk job hunting just keep looking man lol
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Oct 26, 2018 14:31
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Oct 26, 2018 14:32
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I've worked for places that would have a potential contract about to fall in their lap, but it wasn't solid. So they would string along candidates until the contract fell through and then ghost them. It was super lovely.
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akadajet posted:I've worked for places that would have a potential contract about to fall in their lap, but it wasn't solid. So they would string along candidates until the contract fell through and then ghost them. It was super lovely. ugh
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Oct 26, 2018 14:44
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God dammit does interviewing suck. There has to be a better way of doing it.
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I could probably get a job easily, if I were willing to be slotted right back into the same kind of dead-end work that I was doing before. however that would only lead to someday being the geezer who rants that kids these days don't appreciate COBOL, no thanks
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akadajet posted:never stop looking until you are sitting in the chair in the office you will be working Ftfy
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Mahatma Goonsay posted:God dammit does interviewing suck. There has to be a better way of doing it. Nope, interviewing is garbage, good luck
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akadajet posted:never stop looking until you have a firm offer in hand "firm" offers sometimes evaporate in the eleventh hour
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Gazpacho posted:I could probably get a job easily, if I were willing to be slotted right back into the same kind of dead-end work that I was doing before. however that would only lead to someday being the geezer who rants that kids these days don't appreciate COBOL, no thanks cobol is more or less fine, compared to what came before it you will be a geezer someday no matter what
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Ragtime All The Time posted:ffffffuuuuuuucccccckkkkkkk job hunting negotiations broke down. odds are, you're too fuckin expensive it happens, no big deal. move on.
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:cobol is more or less fine, compared to what came before it
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Gazpacho posted:see? face your destiny
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:negotiations broke down. odds are, you're too fuckin expensive yeah could well be. when I initially gave the recruiter a number I was trying to blow them off because I wasn’t really looking at them time. my only teammate here quit recently to be a full time mom, leaving me all alone. time to try leverage that at least into more money
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bob dobbs is dead posted:LA austin boston Raleigh and Pittsburgh
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Maximo Roboto posted:Raleigh and Pittsburgh lol
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Maximo Roboto posted:Raleigh and Pittsburgh
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:it's probably actually this. Microsoft in particular has been hiring like crazy around Pittsburgh since they acquired Avere earlier this year Yeah about Raleigh and Microsoft...
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what tech is even in raleigh? i've never heard of it outside of american capital cities quizzes
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Corla Plankun posted:what tech is even in raleigh? i've never heard of it outside of american capital cities quizzes
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