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well my interview seemed good until the whiteboard started. the guy for the whiteboard part was completely unreadable and i have no idea how it went.
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Feb 12, 2019 08:13
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i have a phone screen in an hour and i cant figure out what the company actually does even though they have a big marketing website. enterprise nonsense all the way down.
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Feb 12, 2019 18:59
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I have one tomorrow which should be fun. Hasn't sunk in yet.
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Feb 12, 2019 19:10
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DONT THREAD ON ME posted:i have a phone screen in an hour and i cant figure out what the company actually does even though they have a big marketing website. enterprise nonsense all the way down. can I be the web scale synergy
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Feb 12, 2019 19:34
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A complete cloud-native framework to protect endpoints with ease: Stop breaches with the power of big data, artificial intelligence (AI) and real-time visibility https://www.crowdstrike.com/endpoint-security-products/falcon-platform/ working on software that doesn't actually do anything has its upsides
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Feb 12, 2019 19:37
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yeah i already got turned down after yesterday's interview, i choked way too hard on the whiteboard 'vending machine' class design that should have been easy why did i struggle so much ugh i'm skilled at debugging, tracing, and solving code problems, not design and architecture--don't even like doing that stuff, let alone know the first thing about it i feel for the first time like i've chosen the wrong career but i can't do anything else, so guess i'd better study harder this time Ciaphas fucked around with this message at 20:19 on Feb 12, 2019 |
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Feb 12, 2019 19:44
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idk its like a interposer that watches for DDoS or other common exploits and shuts things down if they're fishy that's the pitch at least
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Feb 12, 2019 19:46
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JawnV6 posted:idk its like a interposer that watches for DDoS or other common exploits and shuts things down if they're fishy just seems like wishful thinking, like you can just buy this security product instead of investing in security engineers. i guess that's enterprise for you
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Feb 12, 2019 19:55
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why do folks hire pentesters instead of just ramping up a whole persistent red team with salaries and benefits
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Feb 12, 2019 19:59
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DONT THREAD ON ME posted:just seems like wishful thinking, like you can just buy this security product instead of investing in security engineers. i guess that's enterprise for you but if you rub a WAF over your network then you get to tick off boxes for your ISO 27001 certification, which some big prospective customer is making you pass before they consder giving you $$$
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Feb 12, 2019 20:19
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JawnV6 posted:why do folks hire pentesters instead of just ramping up a whole persistent red team with salaries and benefits i see your point but pentesters can actually provide useful recommendations which can be used to hold management accountable. imo this poo poo exists so companies like xperian can say 'well we did security!' when they suffer their nth data breach.
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Feb 12, 2019 20:32
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Less than 2 weeks before my soul is officially intellectual property of electronic arts, my company is forcing every employee to attend some day long worthless "organizational culture workshop" and is also threatening to start withholding all kitchen privileges from all employees because a few people are leaving dirty dishes in the sink. I'm literally laughing myself to the door.
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Feb 12, 2019 20:38
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qhat posted:Less than 2 weeks before my soul is officially intellectual property of electronic arts, my company is forcing every employee to attend some day long worthless "organizational culture workshop" and is also threatening to start withholding all kitchen privileges from all employees because a few people are leaving dirty dishes in the sink. I'm literally laughing myself to the door.
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Feb 12, 2019 20:39
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qhat posted:Less than 2 weeks before my soul is officially intellectual property of electronic arts, my company is forcing every employee to attend some day long worthless "organizational culture workshop" and is also threatening to start withholding all kitchen privileges from all employees because a few people are leaving dirty dishes in the sink. I'm literally laughing myself to the door. sounds like you should just walk out. give yourself a nice break between jobs
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Feb 12, 2019 20:40
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Ciaphas posted:yeah i already got turned down after yesterday's interview, i choked way too hard on the whiteboard 'vending machine' class design read up on a few architectures and stick to one you can easily do and explain, no need to reinvent the wheel. MVC(MVP), MVVM, etc. google one and it will be good enough for an interview.
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Feb 12, 2019 20:40
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Ciaphas posted:yeah i already got turned down after yesterday's interview, i choked way too hard on the whiteboard 'vending machine' class design yeah this happens all the time. i've bombed shitloads of interviews because my brain decided to just gently caress off when i needed it while other times i've knocked it out of the park while completely winging it. what's fun is when you think you've totally bombed and they like you anyways or when you think you've aced it and they insta-reject you. get used to this whole process being lovely and random see thread title
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Feb 12, 2019 20:43
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Take home test I was agonising about was apparently good enough for them to invite me in  honestly I probably should have just done it in Scala my actual day job lang
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Feb 12, 2019 20:50
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:sounds like you should just walk out. give yourself a nice break between jobs I wish, although I have a 30d notice period to run down. I'm not doing a whole lot at work tbh other than studying for the new job, so I'm happy with getting paid to do that.
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Feb 12, 2019 20:51
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Ciaphas posted:yeah i already got turned down after yesterday's interview, i choked way too hard on the whiteboard 'vending machine' class design 1. you dont have to be good at everything to be a good and useful programmer 2. i had an amazon screen where i forgot how to write a for-loop. interviewing sucks.
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Feb 12, 2019 20:53
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PokeJoe posted:read up on a few architectures and stick to one you can easily do and explain, no need to reinvent the wheel. MVC(MVP), MVVM, etc. google one and it will be good enough for an interview. yeah we were doing mvvm stuff in WPF when i left oldjob, I should have been at least able to relate to that, but I even fumbled on like 'maybe a class to handle inputs from buttons, another to track currency'. brain just turned off and i couldn't think out even the basics, heh i just need to figure out how to relax. i can do it in the long term with thanks to therapy and antidepressants but i guess for pressure situations i just gotta practice keeping my brain on. 
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Feb 12, 2019 20:57
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was the "vending machine class design" actually about modelling state machines? because it does sound like that to me
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Feb 12, 2019 20:57
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Symbolic Butt posted:was the "vending machine class design" actually about modelling state machines? because it does sound like that to me yeah it's like the first example in csp
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Feb 12, 2019 21:00
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Symbolic Butt posted:was the "vending machine class design" actually about modelling state machines? because it does sound like that to me I can't really answer this which makes me think that what they really wanted was ill-defined in the first place; they asked for a "block class diagram to represent a vending machine", no reference to state machine models or anything else so instead of foundering i should have prodded them for what they were really looking for, i guess? which is pretty much what i'd do at work, with a "the hell are you talking about" polite email lesson learned, maybe?? man interviewing sucks
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Feb 12, 2019 21:00
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true, you will sometimes be given vague "requirements" in interviews and expected to ask clarifying questions but sometimes someone is just a lovely interviewer too vOv
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Feb 12, 2019 21:03
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Ciaphas posted:I can't really answer this which makes me think that what they really wanted was ill-defined in the first place; they asked for a "block class diagram to represent a vending machine", no reference to state machine models or anything else yeah i think they just wanted you to draw a box and indicate what fields and methods the vending machine would have. i'd be really surprised if you cant do this, you probably overthought it which is what i do.
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Feb 12, 2019 21:03
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DONT THREAD ON ME posted:yeah i think they just wanted you to draw a box and indicate what fields and methods the vending machine would have. i'd be really surprised if you cant do this, you probably overthought it which is what i do. i extremely overthought it, yes, that much I can do in a couple sodding minutes. I got trapped in minutiae I also now recall that one of the four interviewers came in late and was... rather gruff and not personable at all, that ratcheted me up too
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Feb 12, 2019 21:06
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Cold on a Cob posted:true, you will sometimes be given vague "requirements" in interviews and expected to ask clarifying questions my favorite was my phone interview with facebook. i was asking follow-up questions throughout the entire process and getting vague 'mmhmm's back which told me he wasn't even really paying attention. i get to the end and the guy starts actually looking over my code and surprise i was way off in the weeds. he then tells me that i should have studied cracking the coding interview harder and hangs up.
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Feb 12, 2019 21:09
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Ciaphas posted:I also now recall that one of the four interviewers came in late and was... rather gruff and not personable at all, that ratcheted me up too we do this on purpose for one stage of our process but that's because we're a consulting outfit and it's expected that you can deal with assholes with a smile on your face that's basically the only reason i can think that would justify someone being a dick during an interview so this dude was probably just a dick
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Feb 12, 2019 21:11
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Rex-Goliath posted:he then tells me that i should have studied cracking the coding interview harder and hangs up. lol wtf when i refer to tech interviewing as being a shibboleth this is what i'm talking about right here, valuing rote learning of "in-group" knowledge instead of, ya know, actual and practical coding ability
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Feb 12, 2019 21:14
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Cold on a Cob posted:lol wtf yeah lol "go read this 3rd party book and study our very predictable interview if you want to work at our company" who cares if it's relevant to the position you're filling
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Feb 12, 2019 21:21
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DONT THREAD ON ME posted:2. i had an amazon screen where i forgot how to write a for-loop. interviewing sucks. i had this happen with google and a while loop Rex-Goliath posted:tells me that i should have studied cracking the coding interview harder this is the poo poo that gets me. they obviously know the system can be gamed. why is the process still the way it is?
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Feb 12, 2019 21:22
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KidDynamite posted:this is the poo poo that gets me. they obviously know the system can be gamed. why is the process still the way it is? extremely 
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Feb 12, 2019 21:30
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KidDynamite posted:this is the poo poo that gets me. they obviously know the system can be gamed. why is the process still the way it is? The idea of denying someone because of "culture fit" is too nebulous, but denying them because of failing to complete a test is a "verifiable data point", so that's okay. At least that's my take on it.
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Feb 12, 2019 21:33
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the worst part about interviewing is that the payoff is having to go to work
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Feb 12, 2019 21:37
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DONT THREAD ON ME posted:the worst part about interviewing is that the payoff is having to go to work
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Feb 12, 2019 21:39
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DONT THREAD ON ME posted:the worst part about interviewing is that the payoff is having to go to work
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Feb 12, 2019 21:41
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DONT THREAD ON ME posted:the worst part about interviewing is that the payoff is having to go to work
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Feb 12, 2019 21:44
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DONT THREAD ON ME posted:the worst part about interviewing is that the payoff is having to go to work
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DONT THREAD ON ME posted:the worst part about interviewing is that the payoff is having to go to work
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