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Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

comedyblissoption posted:

are there more than 2 d&d mods that were or are intelligence assets lmao

R guy is CIA, MP works for VOA, LK interns at NDI, and Anidav? heh. Have you ever heard of a little group called FEMA???

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Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

Calling the atlantic council facebook's censorship arm (???) is really baffling though. It's much easier to point out that a lot of the international relations / foreign policy think tanks normally get enormous donations from middle eastern and european countries / elites in those countries in order to help smooth over their image and prevent anyone trying to do anything about their criminal activities.

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Vilerat literally did tech support for the state department's gun running operation in Benghazi.

I know lol

If you want more weird conspiracy-posting please visit P/C, since I just managed to get them to reopen it.

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

https://www.mintpressnews.com/atlantic-council-alex-jones-facebook-propaganda/247336/


There's no conspiracy here, it's just that natsec dweebs get drawn to DnD modship because they crave power, and especially when it lets them police the tone of discussion on their favorite topic: which is why we should destroy all the countries that hate us.

I meant when I called every other mod a secret natsec guy, but yeah I agree. I didn't know they did advisory stuff for facebook. It makes the donations coming from the middle east even more suspect, since you know they're throwing money at advertising for pro-saud candidates and making sure that it doesn't get flagged.

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

Lightning Knight posted:

I actually have no idea what NDI is, I won’t lie.

The National Democratic Institute, it's a third party nonprofit that works on Democratic election stuff in other countries (working with election monitors, assessments, etc). It's funded by USAID and the NED though, so they also tend to function as an extension of US soft power. They're in Afghanistan now iirc doing monitoring stuff for their upcoming presidential election.

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

It's weird Pompeo is pushing this considering Bolton just quit because Trump is trying to ratchet down tensions with Iran. It's a brilliant move from Iran tbh, it forces Trump's hand because of his need to deal with the upcoming election / keeping oil prices down

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

Man imagine if we were allied with Iran, a country that is competent, and not Saudi Arabia, a country that is stocked to the brim with failsons

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

That's hosed up, the Kurds rule, we should support them 100%

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

Goon Danton posted:

Is there any hope of the Kurds being able to cut a deal with Assad?

lmao

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

Turkey is the loving worst, Jesus Christ, I can't believe Trump wants to abandon the Kurds

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

Turkey is a trash nation making a move to be the worst nation in the middle east. Do they beat out Israel? only time will tell

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

Kurtofan posted:

Nato should be disbanded.

I actually kind of wonder if NATO is somehow disbanded if the EU will throw together a regional military

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

Lightning Knight posted:

the eu couldn’t even make money work what the gently caress makes you think they’re gonna manage a collective army

France can't go more than two years without loving something up abroad and if NATO isn't there to bail them out by God they'll make their own NATO

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

Maybe if we go kick Turkey's rear end we can just create Kurdistan finally

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

I wonder how long Turkey would make it if we booted them from NATO.

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

Removing our nuclear weapons from Turkey is a forerunner to us booting them from NATO. I wonder if Trump is going to do it though.

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

What doesn't make sense is why you think the Turks are gonna stop now.

The Americans are the root cause of every conflict. If the Americans leave, everything will fix itself.

Is what I assume he's going on

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

Her point is sound, though. This should have been done ages ago and not during this period where we're mad at Erdogan.

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

animist posted:

Pretty good crowd. There's a couple of Tulsi weirdos and chuds but they're generally getting shut down pretty quick

Tell the chuds that Trump told Israel about the strike before any US politicians and they'll get on your side of no war pretty much immediately

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

big brain trump shoots a guy to force the iraqi parliament to vote to expel the US, therefore being the president to finally have a full withdrawal from the middle east :chaostrump:

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007


lol this was 100% Netanyahu's idea too and he's already running

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

Raskolnikov38 posted:

throw a dart at a map and we could probably topple whatever it lands on in 3 months time, just not the countries that have had literal decades to entrench against a possible invasion

Would Iran be harder or easier than an Albania

Is it like 0.9 Albanias

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

Communist Thoughts posted:

theres no real guarantee that once the nukes start flying even that happens tbh.

if america nukes iran to slag then what happens? american reputation goes to poo poo and possibly civil unrest if the dogs of the great satan even have that much fight left in them. is the idea that china or russia would intervene to start a global nuclear war on irans behalf?

e tbh one of the most dangerous things i think would be having a limited nuclear exchange and realising the world didnt end over it and nukes get normalised

No one knows where a nuke is heading, they just see an ICBM being launched. You have less than three minutes to make a call before your entire country is possibly destroyed.

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

genericnick posted:

I'm sure the CIA didn't take over SAM batteries to mine cryptos, download child porn and shoot down Ukrainian planes. On the other hand, it is not entirely inconceivable that some form of sabotage played a role in the human error. IFF weirdness, radar glitches and overall inconsistent performance, just below the level that you're sure that something really is wrong. If I remember the Stuxnet story correctly, that was the initial plan until someone turned the dials to 11 and exploded the centrifuges.
I kind of have to disagree with the first statement. If I was running the Iranian military and suspected that the air defences are compromised I'd be ready to admit to anything to prevent the US from figuring it out.

Also:

the united states' department of psionic operations (USPSI) under the ultra-top secret DoD PENTAGRAM program have mind controlled a large number of Iranian soldiers and operatives in preparation for a large scale invasion under President Trump

this is a double false flag in order to inspire the Iranian government to commit further acts to give leeway to the western powers for an invasion

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

Victory Position posted:

this requires repeating, as if you think the wonks of today are awful, wait until you have to suffer through the remote viewing practices of the next generation's new graduates

wait until it's office policy at Foreign Policy to cast literal oracle bones for the day's headlines

They already do this at the WSJ for stock market predictions so

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

Donald the dove

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

Spergin Morlock posted:

syria is russia's strategic foothold in the mediterranean. they're not going anywhere

Unless they worked something out with Turkey, of course.

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

Also the original declaration and change to a museum was done by Ataturk, so that's to be considered as well

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

Ramrod Hotshot posted:

I guess at this point the Lebanese figure going back to colonialism of some kind is inevitable, and better the French than the Saudis, Iran, or Israel

No one should trust the French when it comes to foreign policy! They're the worst option every time!!!

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

Well given the laws of the universe for the first time ever the US position is probably the right one, because Frances foreign policy is always incredibly awful

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

Well the peace talks have officially started for Afghanistan between the government and the Taliban. I assume Trump wants to get the gently caress out so the Taliban have good odds for this one.

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

Yes they're building two nuclear power plants, how is this shocking

We've known about this for years

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

Anarchists have a bigger footprint in the middle East compared to most Marxist groups, oddly enough. I assume that's mostly because of US intervention, but

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

OhFunny posted:

https://twitter.com/khaleejtimes/status/1327159825298546689?s=20

This weirded me out since France withdrew its combat troops from Afghanistan a decade ago and didn't join the Iraq War. I suppose special forces are lurking around somewhere. I know they had some in Syria.

by the rules of France, the correct moral, economic, and health choice is to get out of afghanistan and iraq as soon as possible.

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

Al-Saqr posted:

MBS still making grand announcements on mega projects surrounding NEOM ( which five years later still doesn’t have many investors and hasn’t build a single house on it) with this stuff revolving around a completely pedestrian city I guess


https://www.neom.com/whatistheline/

Anyone smarter than me in urban and regional planning care to explain what the gently caress he’s talking about?!

oh holy poo poo it's Disney's original idea for epcot lol

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

I've seen more impressive hauls from police twitter.

https://twitter.com/Chicago_Police/status/854802566827397124

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Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

gradenko_2000 posted:





getting Gadaffi-pilled

If that's the White Book he details his thoughts on Isratin and it's probably one of the best solutions to it

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