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ZeusCannon
Nov 5, 2009

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Watching that MATN video actually has me pretty worried now. I was unaware of the whole no NPC thing and the idea of them all being "dead" but still a thing seems like a loving cop out for engine reasons. I don't know I guess we will see.


Also that the main story was added in later is a pretty major warning sign that maybe the people making this didn't pay attention to what people playing fallout we're looking for.


Here's hoping there are still those little vignettes that you find that tell a story of an area etc. Like the poisoned social club in fallout 4

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ZeusCannon
Nov 5, 2009

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MJBuddy posted:

One of the videos posted above have a light version of this with a haunted shack that seems to trigger as you investigate the notes left within.

If that sort of thing is still present where the environment tells the story then maybe it'll be alright without NPCs. Has anyone seen any raiders in this that weren't corpses?

ZeusCannon
Nov 5, 2009

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Mr Hootington posted:

The scorched are like intelligent ghoul raiders that have a mystery behind them.

So no?

ZeusCannon
Nov 5, 2009

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Mr Hootington posted:

Normal humans are all dead.

Is that because this one is set closer to the actual war? But I thought WV wasnt hit which is why squirrels (Also apologies if I'm coming off as a nay sayer I just haven't been to engrossed in the reviews on this so I'm catching up)

ZeusCannon
Nov 5, 2009

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The absolute worst thing about FO4 was locking the trading posts thing and settlement stuff behind such a high charisma req. Meant that if you went with any sort of different build you got hosed on ever making settlements

ZeusCannon
Nov 5, 2009

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Goddam glad i dodged this bullet

ZeusCannon
Nov 5, 2009

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Magmarashi posted:

They put WORK into the details this time around, real serious work.

Lol source your quotes

ZeusCannon
Nov 5, 2009

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Magmarashi posted:


They did, legitimately, put work into world details this time around.

Well they had all that extra free time since they werent doing anything new and eliminated all the npcs and reasons to play.

ZeusCannon
Nov 5, 2009

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CobiWann posted:



No complaints - I'm debating getting a Vault Door on my other forearm numbered "13" or "101" - save for the fact that my Dad looked at it and said "looks like the symbol for a white power group."

I like it. I dunno about the vault door or the whole videogame tattoos choice. But its not bad and good on you

ZeusCannon
Nov 5, 2009

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Akuma posted:

I'm genuinely enjoying this game more than RDR2.

Fuckingnlooool there but for the grace of god

ZeusCannon
Nov 5, 2009

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Best bet is the plan was to have magazines be in the store. Since this game is trash and they were looking to monetize it however they could.

Also yeah i hadnt see the tv spot until the joke one and thats loving stupid with beach boys. How the gently caress do they not say gently caress it and go john denver or really ANYTHING THAT FITS THE OVERALL FEEL OF FALLOUT.

That commercial was another warning sign that people who had no loving clue were in charge.

ZeusCannon
Nov 5, 2009

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boar guy posted:

i'm enjoying this objectively bad game, ask me anything

What does paint taste like since i assume you ate tonnes as a piglet

ZeusCannon
Nov 5, 2009

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Red dead online just got announced. I say we spend all our time in here speculating about that instead of this garbage.

ZeusCannon
Nov 5, 2009

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Donovan Trip posted:

I speculate that red dead online will thoroughly take over my life the way rdr2 has the last month and that Fallout 76, a 60 dollar game, will never be as good as the free mp expansion red dead online

Also it drops tomorrow

Thats a strong stance but i fully understand it. Im expecting it to be fairly buggy and while i think eventually it will be a mainstay i think initially its first few months will have some issues. This is just from past experience with gtaonline. But they also may have learned quite a lot with gtaonline so maybe not. Also looking forward to all the free content they will undoubtedly drop though we will see if there is a shark stamped gold bar.


I do think if its a buggy mess that takes an hour to matchmake me to my friends itll still be vetter that f76 since its free and just additional value to a game people were passionate about making.

ZeusCannon
Nov 5, 2009

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BillyC posted:

taketwo gonna make billions from horsebux and we will thank them for the privelege of giving them money. the planet kills us a little bit after that i think

We will have earned that death. Do not seek absolution.

Rhymenoserous posted:

Shark Buckaroons incoming. Only $100 for a flying horse.

I do wonder how they are gonna top the ridiculousness of gtaonline. Maybe introduce the riders of the apocalypse horses again in an undead nightmare nod or something.

What if they let you buy a saloon or something in valentine or saint denis

ZeusCannon
Nov 5, 2009

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DoctorGonzo posted:

i fount the meteorite and i was like wtf. i really should take my time exploring in rdr2

Oh yeah i keep finding new things to make arthur sketch like a full set of Mammoth bones.

Within the GTAonline framework i can already see a few options for like ownership of ranches or shine operations which then allow a gang to escort deliveries against other players and reverse. Setting up a dynamite trap on a bridge to take out other players should be super fun.

Downside is r* hasnt been great on the anti cheat front so we will see where that takes us

ZeusCannon
Nov 5, 2009

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Bloody mess was also nice since it meant pieces of the creature would almost always be accessible for looting and not lost to the ether of the Bethesda bug dimension

ZeusCannon
Nov 5, 2009

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THE BOLT IS ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THE BAT DRAGON.

ZeusCannon
Nov 5, 2009

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Also wait you thought the fallout 4 deliverer was a beretta?

ZeusCannon
Nov 5, 2009

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SolidSnakesBandana posted:

Hitman 2 was 50% on Black Friday. Is that a bad game as well?


No but unfortunately it didnt sell well.

ZeusCannon fucked around with this message at 22:11 on Nov 26, 2018

ZeusCannon
Nov 5, 2009

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No Mods No Masters posted:

Hitman 2 is great but unsurprisingly a janky intricate stealth puzzle game isn't really keyed in to what the mass audience wants. If Todd had his way, they would prefer picking through piles of garbage for screws and bits of tape

Basically this. Its niche these days. Doesnt mean its bad but it doesnt have a huge initial audience to preorder blast and buy day one.

ZeusCannon
Nov 5, 2009

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Tenzarin posted:

Do people still play those games the right way? Only one kill and you can only shoot your gun once and it has to be a headshot?

Its more like rube goldberg machines of death these days.

ZeusCannon
Nov 5, 2009

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Also ( and i dont remember all the details so i may be a little off) IOI got the rights back to the franchise and im sure there was some weirdness that impacted development there a bit.

Its a good game though the first elusive target (think limited time boss character) is sean bean playing an assassin well known for being reported dead but never actually dying which is played very well

ZeusCannon
Nov 5, 2009

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The White Dragon posted:

is hitman 2 episodic? or is just a big, complete game? how long is it? it looks interesting and fun but i don't wanna grab it if it's short or only half-finished

It is semi episodic and downloading those episodes is the one annoying thing (at least on xbox). Though they all come with the game they all install separate due to i assume hitmans file structure.

That being said the main game is six missions long ish and they are so far really good (im only at three). Six may seem small but a lot of hitman is replaying with new strategies and discovering all the interconnected details of a level.

Sinces its 50% off id say its worth it but that being said hitman 1 goty isnt too expensive and is very similar and also good. the hitman thread would know the best way to maximize your :10bux:


Edit: not to contradict the earlier two posters what i mean by semi episodic is it can be at later dates with expansions unlocking only what you want to purchase but yes atm it releases with all content. They moved away from the hitman 1 model...... Hitman 1 was still so good though

ZeusCannon
Nov 5, 2009

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Songbearer posted:

Joining in on the dev team size dick waving, even though I shouldn't - I couldn't resist - Titanfall 2 was made by 90 people and is one of the best first person shooters in a long time

It's a matter of how you use people, not just the talent

Bethesda said "Do the bare minimum, people will still buy it" and they finally pushed that formula too far until it broke

Are you loving kidding me? Man it does come down to the people trying and actually caring about the product. Titanfall 2 so loving gooooooood

ZeusCannon
Nov 5, 2009

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No like legitimate thought exercise how do they unfuck this stupid game.

ZeusCannon
Nov 5, 2009

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BillyC posted:

private servers and mod capability. let modders do the job

This would likely solve the creature variety issue and the stability stuff for sure. Private servers also mean if you decided to go public and they could maybe make pvp a loving thing instead of the abortion it currently is.

If you dont want pvp just go private. Downside is that only really works for pc side. Not a bad idea though.


Any bets on if that happens because it would mean kissing that loving cosmetics store goodbye for sure.

ZeusCannon
Nov 5, 2009

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Donovan Trip posted:

Hub town that gets players to hang out and interact, highlighting the best aspect of the game (playing with others)

Shared mission steps, like every other mp game ever.

Make the game pick a server where you won't lose your base when you load in. That's bullshit.

NPCs and a story to give more consequence to factions. Give me a reason to care about fighting enemies besides stealing their glue.

Heavy work on shooting mechanics and enemy pathfinding.

I will say the one positive esque thing i heard about f76 was the organic accrual of people at one town. That was kinda cool in an emergent gameplay way.

The shared missions steps is loving barbaric that it isnt already a thing but apparently 76 quest system is loving broken from the ground up. So that would be a good improvement.

Your base can just loving disappear? Whaaaaaat the gently caress.

Npcs is a pipe dream im afraid i get the feeling this loving engine would shatter if they tried to put anything like that in. Its already a stuttering drooling wreck.( This is why i cancelled my pre order btw. Was getting worried when the pre order bonus was literally just beta access and then someone said all the story is holotapes and i knew that was a loving sign)


I still dont know what the gently caress of the factions is. They are all dead good job filling the fridge for loving nobody so yeah anything would help there.


VATS is just awful now. Which is sad because there have been games that had slow time mechanics in multi but those probably had competent teams working on them and were trying to asset swap their way to greatness.



This game is like bethesda let someone who had ever used rpgmaker to make anime games take over. All asset swaps and poo poo that makes no sense.

ZeusCannon
Nov 5, 2009

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BillyC posted:

I think the creation club shows people will still buy cosmetics. maybe not as much on pc but zenimax is still getting money from it.

Maybe but i feel like people would just go look at that sick black ranger duster and then turn around and say I made this mod "Sik blk NV duster" which is in no way a free version of that overpriced bethesda poo poo. And then everyone just rolls that

ZeusCannon fucked around with this message at 23:40 on Nov 26, 2018

ZeusCannon
Nov 5, 2009

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Why not both

ZeusCannon
Nov 5, 2009

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I really like these new protectron enemies. And the mr. Handy designs are amazing!

ZeusCannon
Nov 5, 2009

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Dark souls has npcs

ZeusCannon
Nov 5, 2009

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They gave bobby pins weight?!? Are you fuuuuucking kidding me hahahahahahahahah what loving "REALISM" dev thought that dumbshit up

ZeusCannon
Nov 5, 2009

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Bethesda Softworks? More like Bethesda










doesn'tworks

ZeusCannon
Nov 5, 2009

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Lol love the idea of people "ganging" up on this piece of poo poo. Hey if enough people call something poo poo its probably poo poo.

ZeusCannon
Nov 5, 2009

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loving Bethesdaboi posted:

Cryolator Effects: Players hit with the Cryolator are now Chilled, Frosted, or Frozen depending on how many times they are hit. The duration of movement speed reductions applied by these effects have also been decreased from 2 hours to 30 seconds.

THERE WAS A 2 HOUR DEBUFF IN THIS GAME? WHO THE gently caress ASKED FOR THAT? WHAAAAAAT

ZeusCannon
Nov 5, 2009

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Donovan Trip posted:

Here's a stream of red dead online, a good game that's really fun with your friends! https://youtu.be/GAFqrxvX9yU

This poo poo is gonna be so good

ZeusCannon
Nov 5, 2009

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Mr Hootington posted:

The debuff couldn't be removed either and worked like a mutation or disease. It stayed on the character even after logging out.

No loving way. Find me the dev that pushed for that so i can give him a loving swirly because what the fuuuuuuuckahahahahahahahahahahahahahahthisgameisahilarioustrashfire

ZeusCannon
Nov 5, 2009

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I appreciate the effort your making Tei

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ZeusCannon
Nov 5, 2009

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Yeah gta v.characters were not great

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