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shovelbum posted:I never played the DLCs other than HH, should I reinstall and gofer it? I loved Old World Blues like a daughter, so yeah I would recommend checking it out. OWB is all about wandering around and discovering weird and creepy poo poo and the tone is equal parts humorous and dark and a little bit sad if you look in the right places. I know this isn't for everyone, but if you enjoy uncovering hidden lore and secret backstories via subtle story telling while also being chased by robo-scorpions and the occasional giant dog then OWB is for you, also Dr. Venture is there. I really liked the stories of Honest Hearts and Dead Money, but I found the overall experience of Old World Blues to be the thing I enjoyed most. The best time to play OWB is when you haven't played Fallout New Vegas for a while and aren't burnt out on wandering around and seeing weird poo poo, so it sounds like now is the perfect time for you to play it.
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chitoryu12 posted:That was probably a glitch. Mean Sonofabitch just has part of his tongue missing, which is the voice actor and not a filter. It's like how the Powder Ganger who won the lottery always has a "Goodbye" line from a completely different actor. The "different voice when saying goodbye" thing in New Vegas happens a lot: Sarah from vault 21 has a real noticeable change, and I once got a deep grown woman voice coming out of a little girl and it was creepy/hilarious. Space Cadet Omoly fucked around with this message at 06:29 on Feb 3, 2018 |
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marshmallow creep posted:So I was having a problem with Nick trying to trigger his quest. It had triggered, then I'd died and reloaded, and it wouldn't fire again. While fussing around firing and hiring him, I tried assigning him to a new town to see if I could get him to fire his dialogue, but accidentally assigned him as a caravan to the town I was trying to assign him too. But Nick didn't start marching away. Instead, he fired up his quest and decided it was time to hunt down Eddie Winter. But we wouldn't be going alone. A cow and a robot, that's a buddy cop movie that hasn't been done before.
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MikeJF posted:And FYI, they bug out all the drat time. Usually you don't see them move, but they'll have changed position when you come home. That is creepy as Hell, I love it.
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Fintilgin posted:Oh yeah. It doesn't help that New Vegas (the city) is surrounded by the much bigger and more interesting Freeside. I love New Vegas (the game), and I liked the side stories each of the three families had (especially the white gloves), but really the only reason I go to the titular city in game is when I want to change companions.
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Psychotic Weasel posted:You mean the whole sewers section I didn't even realize existed for several playthroughs and can't remember ever really visiting even after I happened upon it by chance? Well, if you bring Red Lucy (The lady who runs the thorn) a bunch of Mantis, Fire Gecko, Nightstalker, and Deathclaw eggs she'll sleep with you, so if doing hard and long quests to get fake video game sex is your thing there's that. You can also grind for exp by killing Deathclaws in the thorn if you're just a little bit away from your next level and you're feeling impatient. Other than that....I dunno, not much else in the sewers as far as I know.
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Leroy Dennui posted:But it comes with a free frogurt! That's good! But the frogurt contains the FEV and will also turn you into a super mutant.
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Randaconda posted:Ulysses did nothing wrong. Ulysses has severe PTSD and should seek out the followers of the apocalypse for some therapy ASAP.
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corn in the bible posted:In fallout 4, every companion is as compelling as rose of sharon Did a bunch of stuff with Rose of Sharon get cut? She gives off a vibe of having the potential to be more interesting/important than she ended up being.
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Samuel Clemens posted:What makes you think part of her story was cut? If you talk to her she has a lot of unique dialogue, and yet her quest is so boring and after that there really isn't much else to her. It kind of felt like a lot of build up with no pay off.
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Keeshhound posted:She's special because she's John Cassidy's daughter. Ah, I never played Fallout 2 so all these cool references are wasted on me. ApeHawk posted:The fact that the last Fallout game to have a working vehicle for the player was made 20 years ago is both baffling and sad. Rideable Deathclaws, when?
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Internet Kraken posted:Is tactics considered canon or not? From what I've read: nope.
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Zeniel posted:That'd be awesome. Dear Bethesda: please bring back the Nightkin with the characterization they received in New Vegas, thank you.
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DeathChicken posted:The Think Tank are all horrible shits. Some of them just hide it behind funny better than others. Dr. 8 is pretty chill, gives me free batteries and porno mags. Quick question for the thread, when it came time to deal with the Think Tank did you kill them or let them live? I let em' keep on existing, because even though they're monsters who are responsible for most everything wrong in the world I can't really bring myself to hate them or want them destroyed. The things they did when they were human were horrifying, but they aren't human anymore. In fact, Dr. Mobius has scrambled their minds so much they might as well be totally different people. Though I think this might just be the personal attachment speaking because I found them all so cute and funny, I'm a real sucker for cute and funny monsters.
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Wolfsheim posted:Did Dr. 0 do anything especially evil other than making Muggy so incredibly self-loathing? I forget. Dr. 0 is basically just a cyborg Rusty Venture (from the later seasons, not the earlier ones where he did things like build lotus machines powered by forsaken children), so no he's too incompetent to do any major harm. He's good with robotics, but not nearly as good as House, and he seems to lack the raw genius the other four have. He gives off a real "I'm not really qualified to be here, but no one has noticed yet so I guess I'll just keep faking it for as long as I can" vibe. Edit: Keeshhound posted:They player character is almost certainly a mass-murderer by any definition regardless of morality. Monsters care for their own. Fair enough. But in my defense I never killed anyone who wasn't trying to kill me first (unless they were fiends and I snuck up on them because gently caress fiends). Space Cadet Omoly fucked around with this message at 05:23 on Mar 3, 2018 |
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Neurosis posted:unsure but just went into her house. extremely vain (shattered mirrors everywhere) + loving teddybears. now i'm in dr klein's house who appears to be one of those people who is super high in the orderliness personality subtrait, given his house is practically immaculate - which a lot of mega-authoritarians have too. also an alcoholic. other houses haven't really indicated much. except 0 hates house, given the portrait of house with knives thrown in it. makes sense given 0 is the lovely roboticist Did you stumble upon Dr. Boris's murder basement? You might have missed it because it's behind a locked door, but he has a creepy basement filled with cages and blood stains. The implications are that he was torturing animals down there because, well, that's just what he likes doing. Dr. Boris is probably the craziest and cruelest of the think tank (even back when he was a human) and that's saying something. Edit: also, you got me thinking about those broken mirrors in Dr. Dala's house. I'm not sure she broke them out of vanity, I think she broke them because she was sad about losing her body and becoming a brain in a jar. She's the one who seems to miss being human the most, for various reasons. Neurosis posted:that is an extremely cool moral statement showing both rationality and strength of will Arcade Gannon is cool and good and my friend, make sure to finish his personal quest before ending the game it's pretty great. Space Cadet Omoly fucked around with this message at 21:00 on Mar 3, 2018 |
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Internet Kraken posted:I think it would be easier to stomach a Caesar run if they weren't misogynists. That bars me from even considering working with them on half the characters I play as. Yes they are supposed to be the evil faction but that aspect never really felt necessary to me. I suppose its supposed to show that they are way to attached to an even more antiquated old world system than the one they oppose, but I think having these idiots running around shouting larping as Legionares was enough for that. Same, and they aren't just misogynistic they're unapologetic rapists who will threaten to sexually assault your character if you're playing as a female. As a woman both in game and in real life I felt a strong moral obligation to both destroy them and crush the toxic society they were trying to create, and I'm not sure I'll ever be able to get around that. Acebuckeye13 posted:That ending and Boone's Legion ending are both incredibly badass: Boone is also cool and good and my friend, his story arc and personal quest were my favorites in game (unless you count ED-E's in lonesome road, then they're my second favorites).
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StandardVC10 posted:It's because rendering real-time reflections is expensive, actually That, yeah, that's the real answer.
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Neurolimal posted:Lily and Tabitha in NV are women, though a lot of previews of NV before release assumed they were crossdressing. Aw man, Tabitha was a little girl? That makes perfect sense, but it's also pretty sad. Really glad I decided not to kill her and her robot best friend. Fair Bear Maiden posted:I don't remember the NV super mutants ever calling each other brothers. That's a Bethesda thing. They 100% don't in New Vegas. Edit:  
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Katt posted:Fine I'll concede the point but maintain that the franchise could use more female super mutants even if just cheap ones by using the same voice and models but just establish it in audio logs or computer messages. One the one hand I get where you're coming from, on the other hand I'd much rather male and female super mutants look and sound identical rather than having the typical "the males look like monsters, but the females look like super models" video game fantasy race design: 
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Neurolimal posted:Yeah but, when you're asked to make a choice between slavery and euthanizing an entire race.... Do Synths really count as a separate race from humans? Like, isn't the whole point that the Railroad views them as people, just people who happen to be made of plastic or whatever synths are made out of?
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Neurolimal posted:I mean, it's possible to genocide races of humanity without genociding the entirety of humanity, so I'd argue that this is divorced from the question of human-or-newman discussion. But synths don't have a culture, language, or society separate from humanity. Most of them don't even know they're not just regular humans. Blowing up the institute isn't treated like genociding a subculture, it's presented as preventing human beings from being created as slaves.
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Internet Kraken posted:Yeah I never got the impression that the Railroad wanted to make more synths, or that synths themselves cared about creating more. Their viewpoint seemed to be that synths should just be treated like humans, not that they need to make more of them. I'm pretty sure they have the (reasonable) viewpoint that creating highly intelligent AIs to be used as slaves was hosed up and never should happen, but the existing synths should be treated as humans. Yes, exactly. Although, a bunch of robots/synths getting organized and deciding they DO want a society/culture separate from humanity (maybe even their own city) could be a really intresting thing to do in Fallout 5. The more self aware Mr. Handys/Gutsys and Miss Nannys could team up with synths who don't want to hide the fact they're synths and form a community and be their own little faction.
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Neurolimal posted:Who's to say such a culture wont develop in the future? We're talking about walking computers capable of hard commands, trading data (and by extension memories), mechanical repairs (as you see in the institute when they're working on a gen 3 synth), and likely are capable of cloning themselves due to their mental accessibility; there's already a companion you turn from robot to synth, there's nothing stating that the reverse cant happen. Like I said, I really HOPE that's the direction the series takes the synths because that poo poo is fascinating. But, right now, synths aren't viewed or treated that way in game. They're either seen as non-people by the institute or humans with what amounts to a weird medical condition by the Railroad. The idea that Synths might want to have a culture and identity separate from humanity (sort of like the one ghouls have) is never even brought up, which is a shame because there's a lot of interesting stuff to explore there.
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marshmallow creep posted:I use the Tee Party mod, aka the Multiple Followers Overhaul, and it's largely worked as advertised. It allows you to recruit all of the regular companions simultaneously, and also has something like twenty slots each for human, robot and animal companions, which makes bringing companions from mods pretty easy too. You equip an item that lets you click on any person and add them to a recruitment slot. It'll also allow you to go through anyone's inventory easily if you want to equip people with weapons and armor without talking to them. What happens when characters have to say a line about a place? do they all talk at once?
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Samuel Clemens posted:Night Stalkers are kind of cute when you have the Animal Friend perk. Yes, once you have Animal Friend they all become good boys and girls. Also, I had the upgraded version of the perk so they actually saved my life a few times during Old World Blue.  Such sweet snakes
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Neurolimal posted:To be fair NV isn't immune to that phenomenom, Jacobstown and Marcus as a whole dont contribute much to the larger story at all, and in fact Marcus' story is just "good guy mutant! Wants to make a peaceful mutant town! Again!" I strongly disagree with this, mostly because I played New Vegas without having played Fallout 1 and 2. Jacobstown is the best kind of reference, the kind that seems perfectly natural in the world even if you don't know what it's referencing. If you go into the game not even knowing what a Super mutant is it's nice to find a place that explains "What are these terrifying blue things that keep trying to kill me and seem to have severe schizophrenia?" It fleshes out the world and gives a lot of backstory that not everyone needs, but is nice to be able to find in game without having to consult a wiki.
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Acebuckeye13 posted:Great, now I want to see a Fallout 4 mod where the Sole Survivor's voice is replaced by Microsoft Sam. or Hatsune Miku.
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dragonshardz posted:It was an ending - the dangling plot threads were gathered up and tied into one of three little bows. I didn't say it was a satisfying ending, but it was an ending. Please tell me the name of this mod, I hate having to remember to buy my companions ammo.
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LashLightning posted:And yet, I feel it's worse to deny a LGBT character(s) possible happiness in such a way? They've each already been through a lot of poo poo, Veronica and Christine should be allowed to rule the Madre together, in my opinion. (Actual gay person here) I agree with you, an ending where Veronica and Christine reunite at the Sierra Madre would have been fantastic. It wouldn't have been that hard to program either: after you complete the Dead Money DLC you have the option of telling her you know what happened to her girlfriend. At this point she would leave to go find her and you would lose her as a companion, but in the ending slide show you would learn that she and Christine are together and happy. It'd be nice for Veronica to have at least one chance at a happy ending (because as it stands every option available for her is terrible in the end). Space Cadet Omoly fucked around with this message at 08:03 on Apr 8, 2018 |
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Dongicus posted:the brotherhood deserve death, sorry. You don't really need to apologize for that since it's what the games (outside of Fallout 3) think too. The brotherhood are trying to do something that's both really dumb and really impractical. They think they're the good guys, they act like they're the good guys, but they're not the good guys and they don't do good things. They're a quasi-religious cult of out of touch zealots living in isolation and hoarding technology from people who need it (even as this technology becomes out of date as the world around them moves on). I sympathize with them, and the game does humanize them, but it's pretty clear in every game (except 3) that they're self-righteous morons and their organization needs to either fundamentally change (something they consistently refuse to do) or they're going to forever remain obsolete and ineffective.
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wafflemoose posted:I think the BOS have a pretty noble goal of preserving tech, it's just that goal got corrupted along the way. Also, they only seem to hoard military tech, they don't seem interested in trying to salvage things that would improve civilian life. It's like if they're just waiting for all the wastelanders to die out before leaving their precious bunkers to resettle the land or something. It's not so much that their goal is corrupted as it is unfeasible right from the start. See, they seem to think they can control technology by stealing a bunch of weapons and data, but technology is more than just a bunch of stuff: it's thoughts and ideas. People figured out how to make guns, and if you take those guns away they'll make new guns, and then when you come back again they'll shoot you with those new guns because they're pissed off about you taking their old guns. As long as humanity exists technology will advance, and by isolating themselves from humanity in favor of squatting on a bunch of old world tech in a hole The Brotherhood are dooming themselves to failure in the long run. Fallout, Fallout 2, and Fallout New Vegas have a very clear and intentional pattern of the Brotherhood becoming more and more irrelevant. If Obsidian had made Fallout 4 the Brotherhood probably would have just been one sad old man in power armor guarding a mostly empty library. grobbo posted:For instance, people have been citing Trejo as another bad performance, but it is at least a tired and disinterested reading of a perpetually tired and disinterested character. Any one who think's Trejo's performance is bad is just flat out wrong, the deadpan way he's delivering the lines perfectly fits the character. juggalo baby coffin posted:i gotta say i really like nuka world. feels really desolate when you're wandering between the areas. it's like the only place in the game that is built somewhat to scale and it really helps the feeling of post-apocalyptic emptiness. Hey! I just started Nuka world too! My current plan is to get these raider to trust me just enough to let their guard down for a split second, then betray and slaughter them all. Although I feel a little bit guilty about it because I'm starting to honestly like this Porter Gage guy, and I love Andrew W.K.'s raider radio. which raider group should I be giving land to? Or does it not matter? Space Cadet Omoly fucked around with this message at 21:54 on Apr 9, 2018 |
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Byzantine posted:Hell, 3 fits into that just fine with Lyons trying to drag the Brotherhood into a new mission while the hardliners in the Outcasts are completely irrelevant to anything that happens. One thing they could have done to really drive this point home in Fallout 4 would have been revealing that she had been executed by the BoS for trying to do things too differently instead of just telling us she got killed in combat off screen. That would have fit in perfectly with the brotherhoods theme of self sabotage and devotion to dogma above common sense.
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Hobo on Fire posted:It kinda matters if you want to keep the gangs around, but not if you plan on killing them all anyway. Do you get different rewards based on who you help? or is it purely an aesthetic choice? I'd rather let the Operators (they seem pretty suave) and the Pack (they like bright colors and animals, I can relate) live a bit longer and kill the Disciples (these guys freak me the gently caress out) off first. But this can change if I get better stuff killing someone else (before killing them all that is).
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Vavrek posted:I didn't realize anyone thought Trejo's performance had problems. Me Either until I read it in this thread, I loved Trejo's performance in New Vegas. He's a perfect fit for the character and the world. ToxicSlurpee posted:You made the right choice; the Disciples actually have the shittiest rewards on top of being creepy and weird. The Pack and Operator perks are just insane. You can only get two of the gangs' rewards and the Disciples ones just suck. Good to know my insincts were correct here. Also, Porter Gage's backstory is giving me a real guilt trip: It's all about how he was betrayed by a boss he trusted and then never trusted anyone again until he met me, who unbeknownst to him is fully intending to betray and murder him. Gage is a pretty great character: he's clearly a lovely person with no desire to change his ways or improve himself, but he's charming and laid back enough that you can't help but like the guy. Evil, but not cartoonishly evil or unlikable.
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juggalo baby coffin posted:i feel kinda bad for dunking on the talking deathclaws now. i liked them at the time as a kid, idk why they came to mind for corniness. Kid you was correct, the talking Deathclaws were awesome. And it's not as if they just started talking randomly, there's a pretty good in story explanation for it: The Enclave used FEV to boost their intelligence in the hopes that this would make them more docile and easier to control. The experiment worked, but it worked a little bit too well: the Deathclaws became so intelligent that they developed a sense of self and morality and realized "Hey wait a minute! the Enclave is evil! We shouldn't be listening to these assholes!" So they ran off and started their own society (with blackjack and hookers) and it was actually pretty great, until they Enclave came back and slaughtered them all. ToxicSlurpee posted:I found myself liking him too, to be honest. That's why I think he's a well-written sociopath. Video game monsters like that tend to be bloodthirsty madmen who choose the least moral option in every situation by default. If he went by video game sociopath logic he would have tried to fight the people that screwed him over and probably died in the process. I 100% think it's intentional, it definitely feels like you're meant to like Porter. There's no shortage of cartoonishly evil rear end in a top hat characters in Fallout 4 (case in point: every other raider in Nukaworld), and Porter could have easily been one of them. Instead, the developers made him a much more laid back and humanized. He feels more like a real person, because in real life evil people aren't evil all the time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5woGZEGPmaA Space Cadet Omoly fucked around with this message at 10:04 on Apr 11, 2018 |
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Garrand posted:lol I've heard VtM is pretty fantastic and holds up surprisingly well, but there's a chance you won't actually be able to get it to run on your computer (I know I sure wasn't). It has a great story, fantastic world building, memorable characters, but piss poor programming.
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juggalo baby coffin posted:new vegas was a much better implementation of those ideas than van buren looked like it was going to be. the NMA crowd bitched a ton about all the super-science stuff in the bethesda fallouts, but van buren was gonna have all that in spades. Just go Railroad, Deacon is cool.
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