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greazeball
Feb 4, 2003



I've been following this thread for a while and also want to recommend where I live which also happens to be Switzerland. In my case Bern.







(not my photos)

The city and landscape are really gorgeous and the quality of life here is just amazing. I feel like the people in Bern are relaxed and friendly and the city is small but has pretty good amenities. It's really central so it's easy to get anywhere in the country if there's something going on in Zurich or Basel or Lausanne. There's great hiking and biking in the area, river swimming in the summer is fun as hell (see videos below), and there are tons of festivals and local things here and in all the towns and cities around. We sleep with the windows open and it is utterly silent and it's only a 10 minute bike ride to the train station. Every time I go into town I cross a bridge and see the view from the third photo and it doesn't get old: the city is surrounded by trees and the river and the Alps behind everything is just stunning. I guess it's pretty boring if you like nightlife and *events* but I'm in my 40s now and I don't need that so much. The restaurant scene is pretty bad, I guess is the one drawback.

I feel like the cost of living is commensurate with the salaries here. My wife and I live well and are managing to put money in our pensions as a college professor and a non-profit department head. Switzerland's expensive to visit (very), but when you're in the system and taking advantage of the offers and paying for things in bulk and in advance, it feels pretty OK. Sticker shock is still a bitch, but I've been back to San Francisco and Dublin where I used to live, and prices have been going up a lot there whereas they don't seem to be climbing so fast here.

Anyway, here are the videos about swimming in the Aare:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4tvWsgrFWA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvgYD2pa6Q8

My wife has colleagues who can jump in the river outside her office and float home after work in the summer! I'm a little jealous but their neighbourhood is too shady so I'll stick with the bike.

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