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Lupin is a weird property because the original manga is apparently known for being full of rape and things that would be gross from a modern perspective but the other versions, with a few exceptions on occasion like some of the movies or the recent Fujiko Mine show that had a lot of sex (mostly, but not always, consensual in nature), tend to not go there a lot of the time. It can be a bit of a wild card when you look at the big picture. Still, I don't have a huge issue with one character having this awful situation in their backstory. Honestly, I think it's better to not dwell on the subject too much rather than suddenly shifting the whole focus over to it. The rest of the episode was pretty good, I thought, so that doesn't really make me worry much. wielder fucked around with this message at 02:09 on Apr 18, 2018 |
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Srice posted:The child pornographer who is okay with abducting kids and snapping nude pics but would NEVER consider loving them. They made it pretty clear what that was about. They were auctioning them off, and virgins sell for more. The pictures were product previews for the buyers. Yeah, that’s a real, actual thing that happens in that trade. 
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That makes a lot more sense now that I read that. It does tie in well with the focus on technology and the deep web, but hearing Ami's backstory was an initial  for me given the tone of the show.
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Serge Painsbourg posted:That makes a lot more sense now that I read that. It does tie in well with the focus on technology and the deep web, but hearing Ami's backstory was an initial Yeah, according to the articles I’ve read (spoilering for awful again), child pornographers/slavers try to avoid hiring paedophiles for the same reason drug dealers try to avoid hiring addicts - sooner or later, they’ll end up messing with the supply.
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Yeah I don't blame anyone for reacting negatively. That poo poo got extremely dark extremely quickly.
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part 4 had the episode with the heiress who was prostituted as a child by her father who ran away with her money and then she later got hot branded by her husband for cheating, for his sake, which is pretty much just as bad
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Relin posted:part 4 had the episode with the heiress who was prostituted as a child by her father who ran away with her money and then she later got hot branded by her husband for cheating, for his sake, which is pretty much just as bad Sure. And I actually consider that a good episode. But there it was given the thematic weight it deserved. Ami's backstory just felt out of place.
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Yeah, the backstory itself isn't the problem, but the tone whiplash. One minute they are with wacky assassins (a guy with two fishing rods!) and the next minute are explaining how she was kidnapped by a child porn underground ring.AnacondaHL posted:I hope Rebecca is in this season. This. I like her well enough, they should make her part of the 'canon Lupin myth' and have her as semi-recurring character.
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Darth Walrus posted:They made it pretty clear what that was about. They were auctioning them off, and virgins sell for more. The pictures were product previews for the buyers. Dang, guess the whiplash was enough that I didn't think about that part of it.
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NowonSA posted:
Next episode trailers are almost always minor elements shown out of context so I wouldnt really worry too much about it.
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Waffleman_ posted:On a brighter note, I enjoyed the skull man and his dog who seemed to step directly out of a 70s artstyle. He's the only guy I recognized from the manga. He used hypnosis on himself and others to make them zombies. It was a pretty fun chapter actually, and would probably make for a decent one-shot episode somewhere down the line. Who doesn't want to see Lupin go up against a hypnotic necromancer?
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Aside from that weird bit I've been enjoying the series. Feels different enough so far from the last series, and I've always been a sucker for a good chase. Been seriously digging some of the art in and around these episodes though. The next episode art looks great, the OP and ED are pretty as hell. So far, so good!
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I've been watching some random Red Jacket episodes, and wow are there some weird ones. Like the one ("Lupin Becomes a Vampire"/"But Your Brother Was Such a Nice Guy") where Lupin fights the twin sister of Jesus, who is a vampire; the same episode has Fujiko pretending to be Elvis for some reason. Edit: To clarify, it's the twin sister who's the vampire, not Jesus. Also, she was raised by wolves and bats. Edit 2: And the antagonists in the next episode are gorillas (or people pretending to be gorillas) who drive what appears to be a pink jeep. Silver2195 fucked around with this message at 08:11 on Apr 21, 2018 |
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I've been slowly working my way through all the red jacket episodes and some of them as weird. The last one I watched had Lupin teaming up with fake ghost pirates to find the third statue in a set, and when the statues are placed on stonehenge at dawn it calls an alien ship. I think the strangest moment I've seen so far was Lupin and the gang saving a literal stadium full of former gestapo
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Yes, Red Jacket is the best, I agree.
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Another fun episode.
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Assassins going to so much effort for bitcoins... Also, do you think by the end of this season Lupin is going be be accused of being lovers with every man he knows? 4 episodes is pretty short, but I guess that's that. RIP Lupin.
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Ami's backstory stuff does fit in to the dark web theme of the season so far, so while it could have probably been done better it didn't seem out of place as a concept in the series. It's obviously a super tough subject to address in any form of media, but I do think I would have felt they didn't really explore internet evils if they ignored it completely. And like others have said the original manga has crazy sexual elements, Fujiko Mine recently had a lot of it, so it's not out of place in that respect. I do think they should have put off the reveal until episode 6 or so where it could really be the focus of the episode (not sharing billing with wild assassins) and give Lupin and co. a new target to bust. Lupin "stealing" a bunch of innocent kids back to their parents and totally stringing up awful people for Zenigata would be great, hopefully we'll still end up there eventually.
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Fuckin' millennials don't have any survival know-how. You'd be dead without your Google Maps, missy.
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Plutonis posted:Mods add a poll of which Jacket Color had the best episodes I apparently am unable to add polls to threads. Apologies.
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Waffleman_ posted:Fuckin' millennials don't have any survival know-how. You'd be dead without your Google Maps, missy. Pah. We saw how much good survival know-how did Lupin!
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While I've been getting some enjoyment out of this season I'm really hoping we get an end to the v serialized nature of it sooner rather than later, since as-is it feels like I'm watching a Lupin movie for 20 minutes each week. It's a firm way to differentiate this entry from other parts, at least.
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I liked Zenigata being relatively competent. It is nice that he is not an all around fool here. Really enjoyed that there was a bit more characterization for Ami. Standard in a way but welcome. I don't mind having a serialized overarching plot for a change, though we will likely get interlude episodes too.
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Waffleman_ posted:Fuckin' millennials don't have any survival know-how. You'd be dead without your Google Maps, missy. She must have a solar charger for that tablet somewhere.
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A bandolier of power packs.
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i'm definitely feeling the fatigue from this serialized stuff, but this week was a big step above the past two episodes so it gets a pass. kinda hoping next week they revive lupin and mess around with some episodic stuff until the first cour ends though, since i feel like at least ep 3 showed they can't quite manage consistency when the story gets heavily serialized.
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Oh wow, this a two cour? So we're probably getting several long serialized stories at this pace, since I can't see the death day plot lasting too much longer.
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I feel like saving a criminal's life just so you can drive them to a place where you can arrest them is the epitome of Lawful Neutral.
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Waffleman_ posted:I feel like saving a criminal's life just so you can drive them to a place where you can arrest them is the epitome of Lawful Neutral. I would say Lawful Good as the dude is super nice as well. Plus he had no need to go and save Lupin.
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MonsterEnvy posted:I would say Lawful Good as the dude is super nice as well. Plus he had no need to go and save Lupin. Yeah, trying to get the homeless hacker into a nice school rather than just throwing the book at her too isn't particularly neutral. Zenigata's a good guy. A bit obsessive, but a good guy.
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I like my Lupin to have a competent Zenigata and this, part 4 and Fujiko helped take him back there from the joke character he was in the last few specials
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SatoshiMiwa posted:I like my Lupin to have a competent Zenigata and this, part 4 and Fujiko helped take him back there from the joke character he was in the last few specials Yeah, I definitely prefer the competent Zenigata to the incompetent version. (I also prefer competent versions of Lupin and Fujiko; some Red Jacket episodes played up Lupin's impulsiveness and horniness to the point of making him a buffoon as well, and Fujiko was sometimes reduced to a damsel in distress.)
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Silver2195 posted:Yeah, I definitely prefer the competent Zenigata to the incompetent version. (I also prefer competent versions of Lupin and Fujiko; some Red Jacket episodes played up Lupin's impulsiveness and horniness to the point of making him a buffoon as well, and Fujiko was sometimes reduced to a damsel in distress.) I'm fairly sure it's already happened, but the sweet spot for Zenigata is when he can get anyone but Lupin, who is just that good. And not because Lupin does most of the work for him. When it's implied that if Zenigata would have caught everyone else if he weren't so focused on Lupin, and Lupin just runs circles around other detectives, that's when you have best Zenigata.
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I think I prefer an incompetent Zenigata since he's usually like that in wackier eps and these days you don't get a lot of that. But I also enjoy when he's competent in an incompetent way, like beating up and arresting a bunch of drug dealers only to be yelled at later because those drug dealers were actually undercover cops.
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MonsterEnvy posted:I would say Lawful Good as the dude is super nice as well. Plus he had no need to go and save Lupin. Yeah, Zinigata is definitely Lawful Good. The ICPO Chief would be more Lawful Neutral ("Zeni is in trouble because he's violating bureaucratic rules by going into a Non-ICPO country, even though it's for ultimately lawful reasons, to deal with a criminal organization running an international death game that we're most likely investigating anyway since this whole thing started before they went to that country, even though he's not acting in his official capacity (which is itself legal), just because someone in the public might think it's a bad look.") I'll also second the idea that Zenigata needs to be shown to be able to capture literally any other criminals/villains (up to and including Jigen, Goemon, and Fujiko) because otherwise it breaks the whole reason he's there in the first place. Zenigata is supposed to be the only one even close to competent enough to go after Lupin, even if he ends up being Zeni's white whale. If he's just running around like Inspector Gadget then he could be any other cop. (Also bring back the extendo/grapple handcuff)
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Zenigata is way more competent than Gadget - at the very least, he is aware that Lupin exists and is actively trying to catch him. He's at least a Clouseau.
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Zenigata is too nice and self-aware to be a Clouseau. (Seriously, if you go back and watch the Pink Panther movies, Clouseau's failures are about 15% stupidity and 85% his belief that he can do no wrong, so that whenever he makes a mistake or gets in over his head he immediately doubles down.)
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