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divabot
Jun 17, 2015

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at least we're GOLD so far

also, i was wrong, Bitcoin is actually exactly like the Internet in 1993

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divabot
Jun 17, 2015

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Jonny Nox posted:

I have grown accustomed to; and now need, this thread to be green.

green is correct
orange is incorrect, but more correct than grey (or gray)

Jonny Nox posted:

Edit: divabot, semicolons are just commas but moreso; right?

totally — but em-dashes are the new hotness

here's some for you to cut'n'paste: — — — — —

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

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Crime on a Dime posted:

that's the worst rap ever recorded about bitcoins

and that's saying something

in other news bitcoin is not like the internet has bitcoin twitter pissing and moaning in the correct manner

biglambda went into full meltdown on /r/buttcoin and tried calling me a pedo until i reported him and it suddenly got edited

in the meantime someone posted lambda's plans that maybe he could run scams on ethereum

it's good to know lam gave up his plans of being an ethereum scammer because he would be as loving incompetent at it as he is at posting was far too highly principled

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

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Blade Runner posted:

No, no, my threads can't be bad

It is a liberal conspiracy you see

checks out



today's hell that i literally asked for: currently reviewing this masterpiece of the bitcoiner's art. It's by a proper economics prof!! ... who's an Austrian, a Bitcoin Maximalist and a bitcoin carnivore.

Seven chapters explaining why Austrian economics is correct and why "sound money" is a meaningful term and not just Austrian cultist jargon, two explaining why bitcoin fits his requirements and one of answers to why bitcoin isn't just used by criminals and why the incredibly stupid wastefulness of proof-of-work mining is good actually. Introduction is by NN Taleb, because birds of a feather.

The footnotes are sparse but revelatory - a cite that the word “salary” derives from the Latin sal, for salt, is not to any mainstream linguistic reference, but to “Whither Gold?” by Austrian economist Antal Fekete, a 1996 essay on why “delay in putting the cancer-fighting gold corpuscles back into the monetary bloodstream may bring about a credit collapse and chaotic conditions in the world economy, eclipsing the memory of the Great Depression.”

oh, and the history of money is cited not to any such tawdry sources as historians or economists, but to Nick Szabo.

i haven't ploughed through the text itself yet. i'm expecting it to be high on narrative and to eschew such frippery as empirical results or facts.

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

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Boxturret posted:

remember that a szabo is 1.000.000.000.000 ether

well that explains it obv

oh, that essay "Whither Gold?" was a prize winner in a competition by the Foundation for the Advancement of Monetary Education, a gold advocacy thinktank who stress their sensible non-conspiracist views:

quote:

We do not believe in conspiracy theories, but there are people that do not want you to have or share this information. They are making huge sums of money, and they want to protect and continue with a system that enriches themselves at our expense.

The Federal Reserve for instance has a virtually unlimited budget, and thousands of “experts” and pundits on payroll providing op-eds to newspapers, interviews on talk-shows and news programs – even comic books for children.

i mean at least they didn't crack out the parentheses

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

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a friend pinged me. she's been an eMusic subscriber since they started 20 years ago. a minor musical download service, but with surprising customer loyalty given they've gone broke and been bought out repeatedly.

she's about to sign off, because they're having ... a Kodak moment.

they even called it a "light paper".

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

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Axe-man posted:

First you thought your unregulated exchange was safe. Then you found out that local bitcoin is a bad idea. What next?! That the bitfinex trillions are fake?!

that is an outrageous suggestion and my attorney at lol shall be serving you via twitter dm shortly

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

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I have finished writing up the bad bitcoin book by the Austrian Economics bitcoin nut. my review is way better than the book.

the hilarious bit is when I realised he was actually writing to try to convince Austrian School nocoiners that Bitcoin so too was "sound money." though he never actually addresses their arguments directly, let alone by name, because he don't roll like that.

i also spent all day playing pigeon chess on twitter with gibbering loving lunatic Bitcoin Maximalists.

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

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infernal machines posted:

tangential, but whatever does your reflow for mobile is poop from a butt. it's real bad and actually distracting to read

well that's annoying. let me guess, did weird poo poo with the book cover? i need to work out what to do with those.

the theme is A1 FREE EDITION cos i'm cheap. i occasionally tweak the CSS.

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

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Food $200
:10bux: to SA $150
Rent $800
Zaurg smileys $3,600
Utility $150
someone who is good at the blockchain please help me budget this. my nonces are dying

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

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Reuters on OTC markets: "Less romantically, traders sometimes say 'butt' to mean bitcoin."

we did it lads, be proud

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

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Pingiivi posted:

Has anyone said buttecoin?

butterincoin

Sham bam bamina! posted:

did the lightning network ever happen

the lightening network is the perfect bitcoin product

"THE LIGHTNING NETWORK IS REAL AND EXISTS AND YOU CAN USE IT * HAHA TAKE THAT SKEPTICS"
"* do not actually use the LN or you will lose all your money, is open source alpha product pweeze no steppy uwu"

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

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the new @bitcoin twitter has already got itself suspended

oh, and 5W PR has dumped Bitfinex. ron torossian finally found a company so lovely that even he wouldn't represent it.

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

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Buttcoin purse posted:

I was just reading the thread I'm too young to remember the dotcom crash; how did that go down? (trigger warning for Pick thread) and it made me realize that divabot's article Debunking “But Bitcoin is like the early Internet!” is :wrong:

Okay, the turn of the century wasn't exactly "early Internet", but it was a while ago, and at that time the Internet consisted of lots of business plans based on unrealistic schedules, impossible promises, assumptions of infinite exponential growth, and fraud, and therefore lots of companies disappeared without ever having delivered what they promised, taking investor money with them.

That sounds exactly like cryptocurrencies to me!

actually, bitcoin is exactly like the internet in 1993!

specifically, september 1993

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

A polite little mouse!
in the 93rd year of sep-tem-ber

quote:

I don't usually use forums or Reddit, I usually just post comments on Ancap blogs like Molyneux or Cantwell's blog, but they didn't seem appropriate places to post my story. So here goes, I just wanted to share this with all of you.

Nov 3 I flew to Europe for a Eurotrip type tour. Not a guide or packaged deal, just going around by myself. I paid for half of the trip with the wages I earned over the last two years, my dad paid for the other half. I am 19, I guess that is normal starting college and all. (Before that I worked for my dad's company part time, so I guess you could say he paid for all of it, lol).

I did France and then Italy and then Greece next. I am an Ancap so I wanted to see anarchists in these places. Yes, I know they are different kinds of "anarchists" and not really full anarchists like us. I went to an anarchist book store in Italy and it had a lot of English books, but no Rothbard or Ancap. Like I said, I expected that, not a surprise.

I went to Greece, which everyone knows is famous for its revolutionary anarchism, its economic crisis and everything going on right now. Here I found directions for a local anarchist center. I went and didn't see anybody, but it was covered in graffiti, mostly in Greek so I couldn't read it. Whatever, I started taking pictures. Then some people came out and confronted me.

This should have been my first warning sign something was not right, because photography is not a crime. They were not violent, but they were not friendly, like asking who I was, what I wanted. They all spoke good English actually. Not uncommon in Greece. I said I was a tourist and an anarchist and I just wanted to take pictures. Then they got friendly and told me I should have asked first (but pictures are no NAP violation so I don't know why, but I didn't say anything) and they invited me inside.

We hung out for a while and smoked hash (there is no good dank in Europe as you might find out like in Cali, everyone smokes hash with tobacco which isn't as cool as it sounds). We started talking about politics and anarchism. I was trying to talk about the state, they were like yeah no doubt the state was bad. But they wanted to talk about capitalism, capitalism this and that. This is when we started to get into a debate.

I told them that what they called capitalism is different from the free market. They said capitalism is free markets. And I said I agreed. That is what I am saying. Real capitalism is free markets. And they said yes, that is what we are trying to get rid of. And I said no, but we don't even have that right now. We need more free markets. And everyone at the same time was like "nooo" we are anarchists, we are against capitalism. Anarchists oppose capitalism.

And I said but not anarcho-capitalists. Anarcho-capitalists are the anarchists who support capitalism. I had a fanny pack (yeah, lame I know) for my camera and in that I had this yellow and black bowtie (also super lame, it was a joke but I wasnt wearing it). And I said look, these are the Ancap colors, yellow and black, like versus the communist red and black. Well, these guys had a lot of red and black in the building already so I thought they would get it.

I think that is when it started to get a really bad vibe, really tense in the air. The free market thing was funny, we disagreed but I think they thought I was just confused. Everyone was uncomfortable now. Then someone said markets wont work with democracy. And I said exactly, that's it, democracy is against anarchism. And they kind of agreed, and said yes, we don't have real democracy, just governments, and we needed more democracy. I said no, we need less democracy, democracy is the enemy. And we need to end democracy to have anarchy. Then they were all like "noooo" again. You know that thing people do in groups when everyone all says "nooo" or expresses some disapproval at the same time.

And one of them said "but we do want to stop democracy" and then they kind of spoke back and forth in Greek. I didn't really understand it. And they asked me what I meant.

So I said okay, I had the floor, I was going to tell them about ancapism. And I tried to explain to them some Rothbard and Hoppe. I said the natural order in anarchy is that the best rise to the top, the market picks who is the best. They compete and are peaceful. They said what do we want instead of anarchy. I said we want private owners to own their own land and businesses, and to employ people. They said that is what we have now. I said no, it would be even better. One of the guys said it was like feudalism. And I said it is not feudalism.

Eventually one of the guys spoke up and I thought he was Greek, but he spoke English perfectly so he may have not been. He said he knew what anarcho-capitalism was and that we were basically fascists. He asked me if I thought everything should be private. And I said yes. And he asked me if I thought people were unequal. And I told him yes. And that not everyone would have equal rights. I said everyone has the right to own property and not be done aggression against. But that not everyone had to be treated equally by the owners. He said what about immigrants and racism. And I said that would not happen in a free market, but yes property owners could be racist if they wanted to. They had to respect property.

Then he called me a fascist again, and someone else said I was a fascist. And then they basically all started shouting fascist at me, and one of them grabbed me by the wrists. They pulled me out the door, it was up three floors, and basically drug me down the stairs on my back. It hurt really bad and I remember yelling "you're breaking the NAP" and things like that. "Stop initiating force against me." Then they kicked me around on the ground in the hallway, before they took my camera and threw me outside. I was crying and stuff, I just sat there. I was in shock because it was so sudden. Looking back there were warning signs though.

I think they felt bad for me and gave the camera back, but when I looked later they stole the memory card with all of my Greek photos.

So they initiated force and theft. They broke the NAP. I knew the left anarchists were not real anarchists, but I never knew they would do something that bad.

I wasnt seriously hurt, just kicked around a little, lots of bruises and little cuts. I am fine guys so don't worry. Just needed to share.

i was most pleased that google gave me that as the 9th hit when I searched on "greece.txt"

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

A polite little mouse!
now you might think the GDPR was basically antimatter to business blockchain, but


https://twitter.com/CarlGottlieb/status/983742837614370817

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

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Summary of JavaScript SecureRandom() problem

they were first warning of this poo poo five years ago

dig the response from the lolgrammer:



why is cryptocurrency software like this

(you know why)

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

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Discendo Vox posted:

I'm reading Attack of the 50 foot blockchain now. Book's a mess, also there are typos. I'm making a list.

I will actually be surprised if you find something typographical that wasn't meant to be there.

I did get into a punctuation mode where I sorta splattered the page with commas, but these are meant to be there even as they will explode the heads of people who use commas to parse sentences into diagrammed syntax trees

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

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the original youtube video is down from a copyright claim btw

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

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The story about an Australian coal-fired power plant being recommissioned to mine Bitcoin is just a penny stock pump — with officially "corrupt" backers. As is standard in every Bitcoin enterprise, literally everyone involved is inept, a crook or both.

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

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UK Treasury Committee Digital Currencies inquiry deadline extended to Mon 30 Apr 2018! Skeptics, GET YOUR SUBMISSION IN - I understand they've been flooded with cultist submissions, but they want considered quality.

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

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Someone wanted 100 copies of the book!!! :dance:

... and one of the boxes went missing. Not to worry, CreateSpace are pretty good with customer service, they sent a replacement box of books, so the order got to my customer in time!

… then the missing box showed up. ffffffffffffff



so. anyone want a book? i'll sign it! discount in bulk!

srsly take these books away my house is tiny

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

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EorayMel posted:

wow i cannot believe you are going the butterfly labs route

I ASSURE YOU THE BOOK MINES BUTTCOINS MORE EFFICIENTLY THAN ANY OTHER BOOK AVAILABLE

0 BUTT = 0 BUTT

OldAlias posted:

how many clowncoins for a book?

don't worry! I will take that ridiculous terrible toxic unbacked fiat off your hands in all its clownpeniscoin glory

for SA readers? ten filthy pound sterling fiats plus postage (usually 13). email to the usual den of iniquity. postage on top, I don't want to get all SA marty so you'll need to do your own research. latest blog post tho.

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

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Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:

yes, david gerard did

do not believe that man's statist lie

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

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QuarkJets posted:

thanks but george soros already sent me a copy

goddamn soros SIGNING MY BOOKS

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

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gschmidl posted:

This is so incredibly loving stupid I don't even want to quote from it.

I much prefer the opinion of the Grand Mufti of Egypt who considers that bitcoin is incompatible with Islamic law “as it causes harm to individuals, groups and institutions." The newspaper report is worth a google translate - his objections are not theological but very practical, i.e. bitcoin is poo poo and everything about it is terrible

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

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https://twitter.com/ButtCoin/status/985320642969985027

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

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it's a miracle! Jacobin publishes actually good article that isn't didactic leftism! this is a good rundown on what is Wrong with bots-coin and it will feed your prejudices.

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

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followup on that Australian bitcoin coal-fired power plant scam

this is the dude who I pretty much scooped with my post last week :-D and this is what made it past CNet's lawyers, 'cos everyone he's writing about here is a litlgious bastard

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

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here's the talk i'm giving a pile of bankers tomorrow original do not steal

(about 35 min, gonna try a 25 min speed run)

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

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https://twitter.com/ruskin147/status/987272166038212608


bbc goes full dril

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

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I NEED TITLES FOR THE SEQUEL

the loved one favours The Good, The Bad and the Blockchain: For A Few Bitcoins More

but there's any number of possibilities

A Fistful Of Bitcoins
Invasion of the Crypto Snatchers
Invasion of the Bride of the 50 Foot Blockchain From 50,000 Fathoms

ideas wanted to steal

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

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sleepy gary posted:

I don't know what the title should be, but the foreword should be brazil.txt

i'll title it "brazil.txt", get jstolfi to write it and not explain this

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

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Powerful Two-Hander posted:

"High on Ether"

Edit: actually make the title of the book or at least a chapter of it, and the thread this:

this was the ICO section!

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

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https://davidgerard.co.uk/blockchain/2018/04/22/bitcoins-continuing-failure-to-substitute-for-gold/ - turning arguments with twitter bitcoin cranks to good account

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

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Hammerite posted:

hey didn't you say you thinking about doing a book on eliezer yudkowsky and his lot? is that still happening?

I have been considering it - and I'm actually surprised just how many people in the real world have heard of Roko's Basilisk.

the hard part is these people are horrible and I don't want to talk to any of them at any point

Sandifer thinks I gotta do the basilisk book, not a blockchain sequel cos it won't be as good as the original. This is true, otoh money.

i expect what i'll actually do is whatever gets words coming out of my fingers

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

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Sham bam bamina! posted:

roky's erickson is funny but nobody gives a poo poo about it except eliezer yudkowsky's personal internet cult. meanwhile blockchain is disrupting the economy of venezuela. what i'm saying is that there are priorities to consider here

at the berenberg conference, i was amazed how many of the affable capitalists had heard of roko's basilisk. (they asked me what i was working on, I said "either another blockchain book or one on strange AI cultists to be called 'roko's basilisk' and their faces lit up with "oh yes!" even rich people have heard of the story.)

GPF posted:

Cryptocurrencies
are Garbage
______________________________
Change My Mind!

see, if you do that your twitter mentions will look like mine, which are full of abusive bitcoin cultists because Frances Coppola tweeted something sensible and I was @d in. this is where that post about bitcoin and gold came from, btw.

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

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Sham bam bamina! posted:

no, it can't be

the banksters post among us

:derp:

I am not a bankster! I just ah take their money

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

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https://twitter.com/ButtCoin/status/988325949572820992

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divabot
Jun 17, 2015

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St Evan Echoes posted:

free as in nothing left to lose

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