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Your reaction to Mania?
This poll is closed.
Brilliant! Vince has still got it! 24 8.48%
A disaster! Vince has lost it! 11 3.89%
Eh. 85 30.04%
When does Uncle Paul take over? 92 32.51%
....what's wrong with Ol' Yeller? 71 25.09%
Total: 283 votes
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Cornwind Evil
Dec 14, 2004


Nilbop posted:

Counterpoint - Jinder won.

1) I don't believe Jinder is linked to that guy's claims (could be wrong though), and 2) It's gonna be a lot weirder if they have to erase Roman because he's dragged them back into the negative spotlight that's shining so darn intensely lately due to various things,

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CubsWoo
Aug 17, 2005

Where the big boys RAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGH FUCK YOU


Zyla posted:

brocks gonna have to fly to SA to job ahahahha

i mean, have you seen the first class cabins on carriers like Emirates and Saudi Air

Zyla
Jan 30, 2009

ho[meowww]ner


Jack Anderson posted:

FIVE? Holy poo poo now I have to see this match.

including one through a table that was kicked out of

it ruled in all the wrong terrible ways that a basic wrestling school trainer would use as a cautionary tale

SamuraiFoochs
Jan 16, 2007



Grimey Drawer

Jack Anderson posted:

FIVE? Holy poo poo now I have to see this match.

AND ONE OF THEM WAS THROUGH A TABLE.

And also like six+ Germans and a few belly to belly suplexes.

YeehawMcKickass
Jan 2, 2003

WE WELCOME THE OPPRESSORS

I have so many issues with WM34 that it's keeping me up but I need to get to sleep for work in the morning but this dumpster fire of a grandest stage and that means I'm gonna sleep as lovely as the show was.

Was Mustafa Ali/Cedric Alexander good at least? I didn't get to watch Ito

Cabbit
Jul 19, 2001

Is that everything you have?


Lipstick Apathy

Jerusalem posted:

I genuinely, legimately loved every second of the Taker/Cena match. Just this pissed off old undead cowboy soul reaper hauling his grumpy ol' rear end down to Wrestlemania and beating the poo poo out of this rear end in a top hat who was talking poo poo when he wasn't around, then promptly leaving.

On the flipside, I was bitterly disappointed by Shinsuke/AJ. I dug the heel turn at the end but both guys are capable of so much more and I've personally been there live when they did have an absolutely incredible match against each other. This was the match I was most excited about seeing at Wrestlemania long, long, long before it was even announced as happening.

I think if AJ and Shinsuke had opened they would have blown the roof off the joint. This isn't to say they should have opened, it's to say that holy poo poo this event is too loving long. Kenny Omega could have descended from the heavens and put on a seven star match and I still would have spent most of that match looking at SA because that was like hour loving five I had been watching this thing.

At that point in the night you have to lean heavily on spectacle, like Braun Strowman abducting some child to be a belt pillow. Or Braun Strowman in general, really.

KaptainKrunk
Feb 6, 2006


Body armor reduces damage by 55% but still a lot tho

TTBF
Sep 14, 2005

Staying healthy due to sheer coincidence.

YeehawMcKickass posted:

I have so many issues with WM34 that it's keeping me up but I need to get to sleep for work in the morning but this dumpster fire of a grandest stage and that means I'm gonna sleep as lovely as the show was.

Was Mustafa Ali/Cedric Alexander good at least? I didn't get to watch Ito

The cruiserweight match was good but there were better matches in the tournament leading up to it.

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012

plz remember that it was ~ME~ who told you that everything you like is actually really not good, because I knew all along.


YeehawMcKickass posted:

I have so many issues with WM34 that it's keeping me up but I need to get to sleep for work in the morning but this dumpster fire of a grandest stage and that means I'm gonna sleep as lovely as the show was.

Was Mustafa Ali/Cedric Alexander good at least? I didn't get to watch Ito

It was good, not the best of the tournament, and had the wrong winner. One of the better matches of the show

Josuke Higashikata
Mar 7, 2013

No need to apologise when I am right, like usual.





who's idea was it to have an event in saudi arabia where the women can't wrestle and then call it the "greatest"?

'cos they suck.

Cabbit
Jul 19, 2001

Is that everything you have?


Lipstick Apathy

Josuke Higashikata posted:

who's idea was it to have an event in saudi arabia where the women can't wrestle and then call it the "greatest"?

'cos they suck.

An incredibly wealthy Saudi prince, probably.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.


Jerusalem posted:

I genuinely, legimately loved every second of the Taker/Cena match. Just this pissed off old undead cowboy soul reaper hauling his grumpy ol' rear end down to Wrestlemania and beating the poo poo out of this rear end in a top hat who was talking poo poo when he wasn't around, then promptly leaving.


I know everyone here is a huge Elias fan and loves the "trolling" thing and I just don't like him/it at all... but I really would have liked Cena/Taker fine if they just hadn't done that whole "I'm a fan"/"he's here"/"psych, its Elias" tease. Just have Cena come out and call Taker afraid or something and then do the spooky stuff and Taker's retribution. And bonus, that would have opened up time for AJ/Nakamura and/or Charlotte/Asuka.

I suspect that's a minority opinion around these parts, though.

Le Saboteur
Dec 5, 2007

pink wasn't even a thing why is t#RXT REVOLUTION~!
and i'm so fucking excited for #SCOOPS#SCOOPS#SCOOPS #SCOOPS#SCOOPS #SCOOPS#SCOOPS

he knows..


They're not doing any coronations at an event that's running while everyone is at work on a Friday. I'm sure there will be a couple title changes though.

CarlCX
Dec 14, 2003

this is a job for the Punk

Baron Corbin posted:

i don't understand the company anymore. i don't know what they want. i can't get excited for anything because nothing ever has a good resolution. Daniel Bryan wrestled and i barely cared. the concept of the WWE is still interesting to me on a basic level but i just don't think i can be invested in this any more. i just feel detached, like i'm in a relationship with someone i'm no longer attracted to but have no real reason to break up with them. i can't care about any of the individual wrestlers because i know they will accomplish nothing and will stay in the same role forever.

This is how I am feeling lately, even though I do not want to.

Like, it's not "the people I wanted to win didn't win" that gets to me, because whatever, that's part of the joy of wrestling. It's the constant feeling that not only are the things I'm emotionally invested in not paying off, but the WWE keeps asking fans to emotionally invest in things they have no intention of paying off. What's up with all these people feuding over the US title they've been engrossing you in for weeks? Doesn't matter; one of the Singhs interfere, Jinder wins. What's the deal with all of these different women's storylines heading into the battle royal, and for that matter, getting the crowd to lose its poo poo because Bayley wins a big match? Doesn't matter; Naomi spent the entire thing on the outside and wins at the last minute after basically not having a story for months. What's the payoff for weeks of programming about Braun's mystery tag team partner, and for that matter the literal entirety of Raw's tag team division? Braun and a 10 year-old. Asuka runs ragged over NXT for two years, comes to the main roster, easily defeats every single person she faces, wins the first women's Royal Rumble, the streak is the biggest deal in the division, everyone's excited for her? Have Charlotte win, by submission, with no setup, to rehab her after her feud with the fuckin' Riott Squad failed to set the world on fire.

I'm not even a Roman Reigns fan and I still feel jilted by the main event, because they've spent so much time on pushing Roman for literal years, and when the big moment came they punked him out like it was nothing. I'm not emotionally invested in Roman Reigns, but I am emotionally invested in the act of watching Raw and it makes all of that feel totally pointless.

None of which is new or anything. It's just stacking up on me. In no small part because Takeover shows how people under the same umbrella can do everything so right. Hell, even on the same card you had the Ronda tag match showing how the WWE can do everything right.

Jack Anderson
Jan 8, 2008

GOLDEN END


So I was debating about putting this off but I noticed that nL has their commentary up so that will make it better.

Wrestlemania time everyone, see you in five hours.

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012

plz remember that it was ~ME~ who told you that everything you like is actually really not good, because I knew all along.


https://i.imgur.com/HMqQRm7.mp4

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 12, 2007
If you're wondering what that smell is, Dickeye genuinly, no joke, keeps getting so enraged they shit their pants. They also rage out over anything. Quote them and say something, you'll see.

Raskolnikov38 posted:

does that rumble even air at a time where Americans could watch it

noon eastern

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 12, 2007
If you're wondering what that smell is, Dickeye genuinly, no joke, keeps getting so enraged they shit their pants. They also rage out over anything. Quote them and say something, you'll see.


pictured: john cena having to poo poo

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?


Neodoomium posted:

http://www.wwe.com/videos/charlotte...clusive-april-8

This is a wonderful interview and if they can find a way to harness this side of her, it'd go a long way toward making people care about Charlotte.

Seriously great interview here

Benne
Sep 2, 2011

STOP DOING HEROIN

Josuke Higashikata posted:

who's idea was it to have an event in saudi arabia where the women can't wrestle and then call it the "greatest"?

'cos they suck.

Some bored oil princes decided to be money marks. That's literally the only reason this show exists.

FullMetalJackoff
Feb 15, 2004

Waluigi want his fucking Amiibo


BENGHAZI 2 posted:

pictured: john cena having to poo poo

Running backstage to poo poo.. on the 'producer' who booked the finish.

Cavauro
Jan 9, 2008

andey...



hoped for a car driving away at the end

SatoshiMiwa
May 6, 2007



Benne posted:

Some bored oil princes decided to be money marks. That's literally the only reason this show exists.

Somewhere in Japan Inoki awakes from sleep, ready to dial the middle east again to promote a show

Le Saboteur
Dec 5, 2007

pink wasn't even a thing why is t#RXT REVOLUTION~!
and i'm so fucking excited for #SCOOPS#SCOOPS#SCOOPS #SCOOPS#SCOOPS #SCOOPS#SCOOPS

he knows..


Main event of WrestleMania 35 should 100% be Rousey vs Charlotte.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.


Benne posted:

Some bored oil princes decided to be money marks. That's literally the only reason this show exists.

I mean, there's a McMahon in the Trump Administration Cabinet so there's a non-zero chance this is actually going to pop up in an ethics investigation in the near future.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?


Cabbit posted:

holy poo poo this event is too loving long.

Seriously. They have gone so far into the idea of Mania as an "event" that I think it is unlikely they're going to back away from these 5+ hour shows but they definitely have a severe negative impact on the crowd and the viewer at home.

Zyla
Jan 30, 2009

ho[meowww]ner


this was also a surprisingly comedy/music free mania

i know there were multiple bands for entrances but eh not the same

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.


I genuinely can not imagine attending a 5-7 hour wrestling event. Like, add in getting there early, giving yourself some time to explore and take it in, and travel... I've gone to a lot of games and concerts and even some tournaments and festivals and I don't think there's anything I enjoy THAT much.

I only watched this because I was comfortably in my own home and walking around doing stuff.

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.


I'm of two worlds.

On the one hand for the past 3-4 years they've been trying to make Roman The Guy, and it's been incredibly poo poo the entire time through no fault of his own. So I didn't want him winning tonight. On the other hand... they've Luger'd him. He's a joke now, he loving spent a month calling out Brock and got his rear end kicked, after every opportunity, after being put over Cena. Now loving what? At least if he won and the crowd kept turning on him you could turn him heel and play off that. But now? He's no top baby face and he sure as poo poo isn't gonna be a proper heel, he's a crybaby who lost now.

Stick a fork in him, he's done.

KaptainKrunk
Feb 6, 2006


Not every loving belt has to be contested at Mania. And since women are now getting a real shot, you have to cut the fat (the first match, the Rusev match, one of the tag-team matches - even if those ended up being ok compared to the later ones) somewhere.

Benne
Sep 2, 2011

STOP DOING HEROIN

Real talk: Halfway through the show I tweeted "if the top matches deliver this will be one of the GOAT Manias." Then the last hour happened and i don't know what to think about it anymore.

Zyla
Jan 30, 2009

ho[meowww]ner



john had the right idea about this show when he did that

bartok
May 10, 2006

hey!
hey!
it's me kane!
hello!


Sanguinia posted:

What did they do with Diesel when they took the belt off him for being the worst draw in history but before he left for WCW?

Turned into a cool tweener and have the best match of his career against against Shawn Michaels?

Quid
Jul 19, 2006


This is like Undertaker losing the first time. I didn't think it would happen. I don't know what to do. I'm not happy or sad. I'm just confused. They did a good job of making me a mark again, I guess?

CubsWoo
Aug 17, 2005

Where the big boys RAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGH FUCK YOU


STAC Goat posted:

I mean, there's a McMahon in the Trump Administration Cabinet so there's a non-zero chance this is actually going to pop up in an ethics investigation in the near future.

When Vader got arrested in Kuwait it was during a series of sold shows bankrolled by rich oil tycoons, they’ve done shows like this off and on for at least 20 years and the idea of “rich middle eastern royal/businessman vastly overspends on spectacle” isn’t exactly a new concept

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.


Oh and I will say, even if it was silly, Braun choosing a child does wonders for him as a Face.

1. He can do this every week, making him give these 'moments' to a 'random' child in each city, that'll make him a megaface with the kids?
2. He's saying "I am so loving strong, that I can team with a literal child and still beat you, that is how confident I am."
3. Eventually, they can team him with the Undertaker Girl and I need that in my life now.

Zyla
Jan 30, 2009

ho[meowww]ner


my brain keeps drifting back to maybe nakamura not as good as we think

i dont like the thought but its sitting there now

Zyla
Jan 30, 2009

ho[meowww]ner


Onmi posted:

Oh and I will say, even if it was silly, Braun choosing a child does wonders for him as a Face.

1. He can do this every week, making him give these 'moments' to a 'random' child in each city, that'll make him a megaface with the kids?
2. He's saying "I am so loving strong, that I can team with a literal child and still beat you, that is how confident I am."
3. Eventually, they can team him with the Undertaker Girl and I need that in my life now.

its a really awful thing to do to your tag team division/specialists tho

oldpainless
Oct 30, 2009



What’s with Cena running up the Ramp?

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FullMetalJackoff
Feb 15, 2004

Waluigi want his fucking Amiibo


During Wrestlemania 17, I got a phone call from my boss telling me I had been canned. Without notice, after 2 years with good evaluations, as collateral damage from some interpersonal poo poo between others. Being young and dumb(er) I struggled for the next decade, changing multiple jobs/careers all of which paid pittance in comparison, until I finally got into a trade with decent longevity and better pay.

Still a better outcome than WM34

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