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Thompsons posted:The Last of Us 2 looked so violent and miserable that I couldn't help wondering if it was originally designed as a videogame remake of Hostel. The first game has a boss fight against a pedophile cannibal that ends with Ellie hacking his face off
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# ¿ Jun 13, 2018 00:04 |
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2024 14:19 |
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Hemingway To Go! posted:could rattle off a list but you know what, i think this expresses my feelings the best What's hilarious about this is there's a process in place to change your vote retroactively after the vote is over for like a week afterwards and he didn't bother to do that, so you know he's just lying outright.
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# ¿ Jun 14, 2018 05:19 |
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Did Thanos shedding a tear when he kills Gamora really make so many people forget he was the villain? It's amazing how many takes I've seen that think the movie is promoting Thanos or his point of view.
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# ¿ Jun 14, 2018 17:04 |
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Junpei Hyde posted:anyway infinity war talk should prob go in CineD idk Jesus Christ, no. I would never wish that on anyone.
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# ¿ Jun 14, 2018 17:16 |
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Junpei Hyde posted:look if you can't avoid spoilers on a topic that isn't really super relevant to the thread then idk what else to tell you Sorry about the untagged spoilers, but the movie's been out for a while now, one tends to figure the people who cared about remaining unspoiled have made an attempt to see it by now.
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# ¿ Jun 14, 2018 17:29 |
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Terrible Opinions posted:See this is perfectly fine and good. However the movie should also refute the idea that the "greater good" he is aspiring to is even good at all. It does. How does it not? Gamora yells at him that his whole plot is stupid as gently caress and the movie further reinforces that his plan is not good when we see half the cast of heroes die horribly
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# ¿ Jun 14, 2018 17:41 |
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Wheat Loaf posted:I think $250 million was the budget including reshoots and it was less than $200 million originally, but I've also heard that it had been going over-budget when Lord and Miller were directing anyway. But they also probably heavily underestimated the advertising budget, I've heard it's usually as much as the entire production budget for major releases like a Star Wars movie, sometimes even more.
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# ¿ Jun 15, 2018 22:07 |
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Wheat Loaf posted:My hawt take is of course that Episode IX will underperform both TFA and TLJ. Honestly I think IX might be another huge hit because Disney is totally going to sell it as the Big Finale of Star Wars (spoilers, it won't be, of course) and all the controversy over TLJ is going to make people want to see this one even more. TheMaestroso posted:Gonna give this a bump, because I just watched her Tim Burton video and it's legit fantastic. She's 100% right about Man of Steel and it gave me great joy to hear her express how loving dumb Pa Kent's "maybe let all those kids on the bus die, Clark!" speech is.
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# ¿ Jun 15, 2018 22:27 |
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Groovelord Neato posted:i got a migraine yesterday reading cd defend pa kent. "Whoa, wait, who the gently caress are you to say that Pa Kent is supposed to be a model of morality for Clark Kent?" - the CineD consensus, apparently. business hammocks posted:AND THEY TRIED TO PROMOTE IT WITH A WEBSITE ENCOURAGING CHURCHES TO WRITE SERMONS ABOUT SUPERMAN. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVIB9sGYeUw
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# ¿ Jun 15, 2018 22:52 |
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Groovelord Neato posted:i couldn't wrap my head about their defense of him dying to a tornado, something clark could easily save him from. the whole point is to kill him in a way clark can't help him (heart attack) so clark learns that his true weakness is he can't save everyone. Well, that and magic
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# ¿ Jun 15, 2018 23:12 |
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Jimbot posted:Pa Kent's "maybe" wasn't the answer anyone wanted to hear but he believed it was the best one because the situation, for him, was a complex one. He believe Clark, and the world, were not ready for each other. He believe the world would shun him and didn't think his young son wasn't ready to carry the weight of expectation on his shoulders. He died for those convictions and it shaped Clark into the person we see through the films. The line goes "What was I supposed to do, just let those kids die?" And he says "maybe" before he continues on with his spiel about the world not being ready for Clark. That's not Pa Kent. He can be concerned about his son, want to hide him from the world, that's loving fine. But the character has to say "No, of course not" before going into that bit, not "maybe"
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# ¿ Jun 15, 2018 23:24 |
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nine-gear crow posted:Star Wars is kind of slowly becoming That Thing All The Racist Kids Like in public cultural perception I think this is overstating things a bit. Nuebot posted:A lot of furry social groups really, really suffer from that dumb internet nerd thing where it's a bunch of people who view themselves as perpetually maligned and bullied in life, specially during their school years so online they want to be super inclusive and accepting of everyone to the point where it becomes detrimental to their communities. Because by the time they start realizing maybe they shouldn't let literal pedophiles and nazis hang around and scream, shout and post whatever horrifying things they want - the simple act of saying "Okay, no more of this" gets their whole community up in arms over it. It's very easy for places like that to be taken over by creeps because most people don't want to speak out, out of fear that they'll be the bully now and punished accordingly. Most furry sites I've been exposed to treated things like "kink shaming" worse than actual bigotry and harassment. But anecdotal evidence and all. The Geek Social Fallacies http://www.plausiblydeniable.com/opinion/gsf.html quote:Geek Social Fallacy #1: Ostracizers Are Evil
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# ¿ Jun 15, 2018 23:47 |
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MariusLecter posted:Everyone should read, Roadside Picnic, btw. I got recommended this by a friend a few weeks back and yea, I second this.
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# ¿ Jun 21, 2018 04:35 |
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stillvisions posted:For me that was the missing takeaway from Ghostbusters; plenty of male-led generic action comedies/reboots make mad bank at the box office and the world shrugs and says "that's Hollywood". For Ghostbusters the sexism isn't found in the "you must like this movie and declare it good or else you're a bad person", the sexism is found in the "this movie must best a classic comedy in every way or else it is trash and must not be seen by anyone". That movie got painted into a corner where crowds needed the nod of universal acclaim to see it, and critics tried, but ultimately it wasn't enough. Counterpoint - Bridesmaids was extremely well received critically and commercially and certainly isn't a "classic comedy in every way"
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# ¿ Jun 24, 2018 02:34 |
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sexpig by night posted:they're hack frauds!
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# ¿ Jun 24, 2018 18:25 |
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I Before E posted:You all hated Lamps, but through this they've contributed to this thread's best post in pages. Lamps didn't make the comic If he wants to go around posting other people's work and never offer his own thoughts again, he'd be a much better poster That is a fantastic comic
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# ¿ Jun 25, 2018 04:03 |
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I can't this hard enough
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# ¿ Jun 25, 2018 16:30 |
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Yea there's really no point in going "Shame on you, Milo!" because Milo is an admitted troll and doesn't give a gently caress or feel shame. Whereas centrist dipshits like Boogie do feel shame and so should be shamed into not having such god awful opinions about how we have to give the benefit of the doubt to pedo Nazi fucks.
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# ¿ Jun 29, 2018 08:14 |
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Dapper_Swindler posted:Uncharted is basically modern Indiana jones aka pulpy adventure poo poo. the hero is always a wise cracking dude with a body count. I guess, to me, the difference is scale. Like Indiana Jones kills a couple dozen people over the course of his 4 movies, and most of the time it's in a pretty clear survival "me or you must die" situation. Nathan Drake kills hundreds, if not thousands, of men, often just in the pursuit of treasure. Hell, the "Ludonarrative Dissonance" achievement activates after 1,000 kills. That makes it a little tougher to swallow the charming joking hero bits. Or at the end of the game when (minor spoilers) their daughter finds out about both of their pasts. Are Nathan and Elena going to explain to their kid about how they murdered thousands of men on their travels, or you think they'll leave that bit out?
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# ¿ Jul 1, 2018 21:20 |
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Calaveron posted:If I lived in a darling little seafront chalet you bet your rear end I'd be OK with my parents telling me how they melted a bunch of nazi faces off to get said riches Imagine this scene playing out thousands and thousands of times: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag_AFraxj-4
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# ¿ Jul 1, 2018 21:33 |
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There's different kinds of henchmen, though. For example, the ones in 2 are clearly working for an insane madman warlord, easy to dispatch with sympathy for them, they are clearly bad men working for a bad cause. But in 4, Shoreline are a PMC, and oftentimes you are engaging them on land that they own and are assigned to protect, like the church of St. Dismas. In that case, many of these men are literally just normal dudes who work for a normal PMC who does normal non-evil tasks like provide security. Similar with the guards who show up during the auction scene. I guess the problem goes back to 4 trying to tell a much more serious and grounded story while still having the same hordes of bad guys to slaughter from the previous games, much like this post says: Jimbot posted:4 is just what happens when you take an already ridiculous premise and try to take it to serious territory. Not to say that there isn't a place for asking these kinds of questions or exploring the ramifications of killing hundreds of dudes on your adventure, but the fourth entry in a series is hardly the place to start that. Same goes with Shadow of the Tomb Raider or whatever the new one is called. It's not exactly the best time to be exploring the problematic and ethical issues of tomb raiding and meddling with things you don't understand. Those are certainly interesting and great topics to explore but not so much in the third entry of a series. None of this "ruins" the Uncharted games for me, I still find Nathan Drake a funny and likeable character, but it is interesting to think about and discuss.
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# ¿ Jul 1, 2018 23:24 |
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Alaois posted:normal, non-evil PMC work, like I mean, I know, but in this case they're not played up to be comically evil, like you don't hear about Shoreline going off to fight in Afghanistan, they're just providing security for the bad guys and you roll up and kill them. Psychepath posted:Every game should have Alpha Protocol's "orphans created" counter, where you can marvel at how the 9 men you killed were all widowed and had 54 children between them after each mission. This goon gets it
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# ¿ Jul 1, 2018 23:36 |
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Dapper_Swindler posted:pretty much. honestly it depends on the game. like stuff like spec ops the line makes you feel bad for everything you kill. because the whole thing could maybe be solved if everyone one calmed down for a second. Spec Ops was making this dissonance more explicit by the simple trick of making the "faceless hordes of enemies" American soldiers.
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# ¿ Jul 2, 2018 00:26 |
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RareAcumen posted:Anyway, can someone explain ludonarritive dissonance succinctly? Is it just when gameplay and cutscene clash or is there more to it? Basically it's when gameplay emphasizes one thing while the narrative emphasizes another. For example, in Bioshock Infinite, Booker DeWitt is a man who is plagued by thoughts of his violent past and doesn't want to commit any more violence, but the gameplay is telling you "okay now skyhook slam into this dude because look how awesome it looks"
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# ¿ Jul 2, 2018 15:24 |
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I think what's often missed is that it's not inherently a bad thing, either. Spec Ops: The Line uses ludonarrative dissonance in a fantastic way.
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# ¿ Jul 2, 2018 16:02 |
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business hammocks posted:They should include a scene with Laura Dern or Sam Neill complaining that the bottom fell out of paleontology and they have to be adjuncts at 65 because of Jurassic Park, even though real dinosaurs are totally different and worth studying. lol
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# ¿ Jul 5, 2018 03:05 |
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khwarezm posted:In all seriousness, the whole scales rule feathers drool thing annoys me since I must have missed the memo where it was decided things like a Harpy Eagle or Cassowary are big 'ol pussies. Far Cry 3 taught me about how Cassowaries are basically modern day raptors.
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# ¿ Jul 5, 2018 04:18 |
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a cartoon duck posted:Twitter is in fact a hellsite that exists purely to amplify human misery and we as a species would be better off if it was shut down permanently. This is the conclusion I keep coming back to, yes. All the good memes and gifs and cute animals and stuff will find another platform, life finds a way.
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# ¿ Jul 6, 2018 15:16 |
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Terrible Opinions posted:At will employment is a tool to turn workers into slaves and should not be defended.
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# ¿ Jul 6, 2018 17:31 |
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Just found this video today and it's perfect. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwVERl0OYjc
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# ¿ Jul 8, 2018 22:43 |
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DoctorWhat posted:are they capable of moving past that, do you think? Not as long as the money train is still rolling.
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# ¿ Jul 12, 2018 02:29 |
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My favorite thing about Deadliest Warrior is how much they hype up the powerful computer simulation program and then they quickly pan by the guy's computer screen and it's just Excel.
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# ¿ Jul 17, 2018 18:02 |
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If you haven't seen the Every Frame A Painting videos, they're all pretty overwhelmingly passionate/positive and well worth watching https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FOzD4Sfgag
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# ¿ Jul 20, 2018 14:50 |
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Jimbot posted:a lot of them made by a guy in his 40's. I've seen this kind of thing pop up a couple of times in regards to this issue and it strikes me as totally bizarre. I didn't realize comedy had an age limit where once you hit a certain age you can't tell certain jokes anymore. I'm glad Carlin died before things got this way, people would have crucified him.
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# ¿ Jul 22, 2018 16:28 |
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I think it's also worth noting that the majority of the CoD player base has never touched the single player campaign. So a giant part of the audience has never thought about the plot critically because they haven't even seen the plot.
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# ¿ Jul 25, 2018 01:14 |
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Dapper_Swindler posted:That’s sad because the multiplayer is boring as hell. But it plays that sick guitar riff when I level up, bro! *cracks open another Bud*
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# ¿ Jul 25, 2018 01:27 |
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There's CinemaSinsSins, who is basically dedicated to this entire genre of thing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9bODwT_wfo
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# ¿ Jul 27, 2018 12:05 |
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David Cage is much worse than we all thought - https://www.canardpc.com/373/strange-atmosphere-quantic-dream (warning, link is )quote:CanardPC did an in depth investigation on Quantic Dream and found tons of garbage behavior from David Cage and staff. For the sake of brevity, some of the lesser bad things included:
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# ¿ Jul 30, 2018 02:54 |
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Someone slap the YouTube logo onto the van, tia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EN_VBc98dzg
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# ¿ Aug 7, 2018 03:54 |
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2024 14:19 |
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If it's really all an act, then he's a giant shithole because any decent person would realize the very real damage their "act" is doing and stop it. E: VVV my point being if people try to excuse it with "oh it's just an act" that doesn't actually excuse anything WampaLord fucked around with this message at 19:49 on Aug 7, 2018 |
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