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How Michigan State's culture fostered a sexual predator and masked assaults High-School Coach ‘Ignored’ Boy’s Screams as Teammates Raped Him, Lawsuit Claims Read this thread in which people bring up more cases of school sports violence and rape: https://twitter.com/OliviaMesser/status/961981715970392064 Most other countries handle not having school sports teams while still having a competitive sports culture. Also most other countries don't have so much school rape being covered up to protect team spirit. Coincidence? I don't think so!
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you're right that most countries don't have school sports, but that doesn't mean sports-related sex crimes don't happen there
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Apr 13, 2018 16:05
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Hmm, no.
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Apr 13, 2018 16:11
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Absurd Alhazred posted:High-School Coach ‘Ignored’ Boy’s Screams as Teammates Raped Him, Lawsuit Claims I clicked the link thinking "this story is old as gently caress", but it turns out no, this is just another case of that exact same thing happening.
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Apr 13, 2018 16:15
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General Dog posted:Hmm, no. Sorry, wrong. Abolish school sports and start a paid amateur league for those who want to become pro sports players instead of wasting their time taking fake classes at actual colleges that would rather burn large donations on sports gear than teaching students.
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Apr 13, 2018 16:15
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imo sports are good and rape is bad, it's a complex issue.
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Apr 13, 2018 16:16
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Taintrunner posted:Sorry, wrong.
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Apr 13, 2018 16:17
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get that OUT of my face posted:you're right that most countries don't have school sports, but that doesn't mean sports-related sex crimes don't happen there The UK isn't a good example because they find a way to be pedophiles in every possible industry
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Apr 13, 2018 16:17
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get that OUT of my face posted:better yet, bring in an academy system like big european soccer clubs where they actually teach kids poo poo in addition to making them better at a given sport. and don't charge money for it, or make it free for kids who can't afford it
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Apr 13, 2018 16:18
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State universities blowing all their money on athletics is a problem but I also wonder if they'd even be able to secure funding without them, particularly in red states. Normies might decide they'd rather cut taxes than have a liberal egghead institution if there's no "go Greenhawks" aspect
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Apr 13, 2018 16:26
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School sports foster community. They're the only reason a lot of people care about their local school at all. Think about that before you go all sportsball handegg on us.
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Apr 13, 2018 16:32
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Thug Lessons posted:School sports foster community. They're the only reason a lot of people care about their local school at all. Think about that before you go all sportsball handegg on us. yeah a community of rape
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Apr 13, 2018 16:48
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Thug Lessons posted:School sports foster community. They're the only reason a lot of people care about their local school at all. Think about that before you go all sportsball handegg on us. At my high school the sports community was insular and most students didn't give a poo poo about pep rallies except as an excuse to get out of class. And I sure as heck don't know any alumni who are going to their old high school's games after graduating
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Apr 13, 2018 16:56
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I'm not against having sports programs though, I just think it would be healthier to treat them like any other after school activity instead of being this special class that gets the most funding and takes precedence in everything, especially because that's kind of practice for how we treat the military compared to every other government institution :cosmicbrain:
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Apr 13, 2018 16:58
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Jeb! Repetition posted:At my high school the sports community was insular and most students didn't give a poo poo about pep rallies except as an excuse to get out of class. And I sure as heck don't know any alumni who are going to their old high school's games after graduating I was thinking more in terms of the team members, their friends, parents, etc.
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Apr 13, 2018 17:01
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Thug Lessons posted:I was thinking more in terms of the team members, their friends, parents, etc. That's a minority of students, and I'm not even sure about "their friends" because I was friends with a member of the high school football team and it didn't make me care any more about the teams. It did make me go to a few games but that was out of politeness, the same reason you'd go to a friend's play or concert Also a better reason to care about the school is because you or your kids go there
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Apr 13, 2018 17:07
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an interesting magazine article would be a survey of youth sports institutional structures globally, like which countries run sports through the school system, which have locally-funded groups, where it's all private, where it's nationally run i wouldn't know where to start tbh, if anybody is aware of something like this point it my way
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Apr 13, 2018 17:09
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Jeb! Repetition posted:That's a minority of students, and I'm not even sure about "their friends" because I was friends with a member of the high school football team and it didn't make me care any more about the teams. It did make me go to a few games but that was out of politeness, the same reason you'd go to a friend's play or concert IDK dude. You're downplaying it, but can you think of any other school programs that are anywhere close to as effective at building community? Yeah, like anything they're only going to engage a minority, but they also happen to be the best at doing that.
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Apr 13, 2018 17:11
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figures the bernie bro subforum wants to end any program that engages a minority
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Apr 13, 2018 17:14
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GalacticAcid posted:an interesting magazine article would be a survey of youth sports institutional structures globally, like which countries run sports through the school system, which have locally-funded groups, where it's all private, where it's nationally run Yeah I really want to see something like this Thug Lessons posted:IDK dude. You're downplaying it, but can you think of any other school programs that are anywhere close to as effective at building community? Yeah, like anything they're only going to engage a minority, but they also happen to be the best at doing that. All the after school programs built community for a minority about as well. Theatre kids, music kids, gaming kids, even kids taking the same foreign language, they were all tight with each other
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Apr 13, 2018 17:16
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abolish school sports, institute weekly school phalanx drill as physical education
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Apr 13, 2018 17:19
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jBrereton posted:imo sports are good and rape is bad, it's a complex issue. maybe if you really put your dick in it, you could have sports without rape. one day
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Apr 13, 2018 17:21
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Jeb! Repetition posted:All the after school programs built community for a minority about as well. Theatre kids, music kids, gaming kids, even kids taking the same foreign language, they were all tight with each other Sure. But when you're talking about America as an aggregate, who do you think does better at engaging community members, both students and parents: the sports program, or the theater-music-gaming-anime alliance? I agree that in some cases it gets out of hand and unfairly draws resources away from other programs, but I don't mind that it gets disproportionate weight when so many people are genuinely into it.
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Apr 13, 2018 17:22
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NEEEERRRRRRDS
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Apr 13, 2018 18:00
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way too many parents would gladly suffer their child’s nightly cry sessions for the sight of a ball being punted real high in the air and being able to say “That’s my son right there  ”CTE’s barely done poo poo and as demonstrated sports programs have been harboring sexual abuse for years
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Apr 13, 2018 18:21
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Thug Lessons posted:Sure. But when you're talking about America as an aggregate, who do you think does better at engaging community members, both students and parents: the sports program, or the theater-music-gaming-anime alliance? I agree that in some cases it gets out of hand and unfairly draws resources away from other programs, but I don't mind that it gets disproportionate weight when so many people are genuinely into it. Well every parent goes to watch their kids in performances plus they don't yell at them to act harder or drive home in shame if they hit the wrong note. I don't know if sports "engages community members" better than other after-school activities but I do know it doesn't cause people to care about anything other than the sports themselves Also non-sports after school programs aren't all in alliance together to take down sports and that's a bizarre idea
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Apr 13, 2018 18:25
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Anyway I forgot to post this earlier: *Coach voice* it builds character
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Apr 13, 2018 18:25
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sports are good
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Apr 13, 2018 18:25
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It's funny to see people be so blindly defensive about sports in a thread where actually, they're bad, and here's why, from mass rape that goes unpunished to brain destroying CTEs But ah well don't wanna look like a nerd, online
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Apr 13, 2018 18:38
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Well every parent goes to watch their kids in performances plus they don't yell at them to act harder or drive home in shame if they hit the wrong note. I don't know if sports "engages community members" better than other after-school activities but I do know it doesn't cause people to care about anything other than the sports themselves Isn't that just a stereotype though? My impression is that more kids have positive sports experiences rather than vicarious-football shoutdads.
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Apr 13, 2018 18:39
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Thug Lessons posted:Isn't that just a stereotype though? My impression is that more kids have positive sports experiences rather than vicarious-football shoutdads. Dunno. It wasn't really my main point
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Apr 13, 2018 18:40
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athletes are better than nerds and I encourage them to bully their inferior classmates
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Apr 13, 2018 18:40
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Dunno. It wasn't really my main point Your main point seems to be really resistant to the idea that there's any special place for sports, and school sports specifically, in American culture. At least not anything that other activities don't have. Which strikes me as bizarre.
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Apr 13, 2018 18:46
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Thug Lessons posted:Your main point seems to be really resistant to the idea that there's any special place for sports, and school sports specifically, in American culture. At least not anything that other activities don't have. Which strikes me as bizarre. Well my point in that specific post was that sports tend to engage parents with sports and not the school as a whole. But yes I do believe ideally athletics shouldn't be more important than any other after school program, because they don't do more good than other programs do
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Apr 13, 2018 18:51
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Edit: wrong thread
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Apr 13, 2018 18:54
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Well my point in that specific post was that sports tend to engage parents with sports and not the school as a whole. But yes I do believe ideally athletics shouldn't be more important than any other after school program, because they don't do more good than other programs do I wouldn't want to overplay how much they're engaging with the school as a whole. But it is, still, the most prominent engagement of local schools with the community, which has to be worth something. I think it's pretty subjective how much good they're doing.
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Apr 13, 2018 19:02
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It sounds less like you're talking about team athletics and more like you're talking about rec centers, which I'm extremely in favor of
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Apr 13, 2018 19:03
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Jeb! Repetition posted:At my high school the sports community was insular and most students didn't give a poo poo about pep rallies except as an excuse to get out of class. And I sure as heck don't know any alumni who are going to their old high school's games after graduating went to school in Jersey and this was my exact experience going down to Texas and seeing how invested people are in it is loving nuts
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Apr 13, 2018 19:05
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Yeah this might be hard to get if you don't live down South.
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School sports are dumb but if you didn’t have them The South might spend money on something besides producing a permanent GOP underclass
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