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bad day
Mar 26, 2012

by VideoGames
Because the only people who pay for porn anymore have very specific interests.

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Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Switchblade Switcharoo

bad day posted:

Because the only people who pay for porn anymore have very specific interests.

Tell me about this

bad day
Mar 26, 2012

by VideoGames
I’ve just noticed - it seems like the pay sites charging for porn tend to cater to niche markets - specific sorts of girls or activities and fetishes - rather than theming to capture a more general slice of the market. My guess is that it’s simply easier to make a living doing clown porn because the people looking for it are more specifically into that one thing and far more likely to renew a monthly subscription than someone who’s into “hot teens” or whatever.

Personally I just wish they made porn like the 70’s still and the only reliable source for hot porn with natural women seems to be JAV or weirdo Mormon cult poo poo.

Elderbean
Jun 10, 2013


It amazes me that politics in america is such a partisan shitshow that net neutrality became a divisive issue. You'd think it would seem glaringly obvious to anyone that it's a good thing and yet there's a whole bunch of old people who want to get rid of it because it's a REGULATION that OBUMMER supported.

My friends dad got into a debate with us about this and literallly could not grasp what net neutrality actually is. To him, it's a bunch of scary laws and the internet would be more open and free without them.

Weaponized Autism
Mar 26, 2006

All aboard the Gravy train!
Hair Elf
hey OP, would you prefer nut neutrality?


Deez nuts

ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

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Pillbug

Elderbean posted:

It amazes me that politics in america is such a partisan shitshow that net neutrality became a divisive issue. You'd think it would seem glaringly obvious to anyone that it's a good thing and yet there's a whole bunch of old people who want to get rid of it because it's a REGULATION that OBUMMER supported.

My friends dad got into a debate with us about this and literallly could not grasp what net neutrality actually is. To him, it's a bunch of scary laws and the internet would be more open and free without them.

It's a bad thing from the angle of profits and information control. Comcast and Verizon would just love to get more money from you. The regulation that Obama supported part is just a way for the right wing hate machine to convince their voters that net neutrality is bad. They've seriously gotten convinced that it's a conspiracy to silence conservative voices on the web which is like...how would it do that?

Really conservative voters that are against it often don't have a clue what it actually means.

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

ToxicSlurpee posted:

Really conservative voters that are against it often don't have a clue what it actually means.

could say that about nearly any piece of policy tbh

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Jose Mengelez posted:

trump supporters deserve every bad thing that happens to them tbh.

the problem is everyone else has to suffer with them

buddhanc
Feb 16, 2010

Something something ethical capitalism something something free market solutions

Now watch me slowly slit my own throat

Alpha Mayo
Jan 15, 2007
hi how are you?
there was this racist piece of shit in your av so I fixed it
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Not related to NN, but the GPDR is the stupidest loving thing I've ever seen. Can someone explain to me how a regulation decided on by the European Union applies to small businesses in the US? What authority do they have?

also is Something Awful GPDR compliant lol

Idiot Kicker
Jun 13, 2007
The internet is the most equal thing left in this country, so of course conservatives would be against it. Things that give an equal voice to all of us are scary and undesirable in this weird corporate oligarchy that we call a country

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Alpha Mayo posted:

Not related to NN, but the GPDR is the stupidest loving thing I've ever seen. Can someone explain to me how a regulation decided on by the European Union applies to small businesses in the US? What authority do they have?

also is Something Awful GPDR compliant lol

If you want to do business in a given jurisdiction you have to following that jurisdiction's laws. Like if made a food product in a country with loose food safety laws you couldn't just sell it to a place with more strict food safety laws because "well it's legal here!" No, to sell it there you have to make it fit within their laws.

Same thing here; if you want your website to be OK for use in Europe you have to follow European privacy laws. It really isn't that stupid; privacy is actually kind of a huge deal and the internet has been punching holes in it. This is why there were court fights in Europe over the "right to be forgotten." There are companies out there digging up absurd amounts of information about you whether you like it or not. Chances are Facebook knows who you are and what you like even if you don't have an account and have never visited Facebook.com. What's going on here is Europe is saying "hey if you want to operate your poo poo here these are the rules. Don't like it? Don't operate in Europe."

It doesn't apply to all small businesses in the US. It applies to those that want to do web stuff in that involves personal data of people in Europe. I won't pretend to be an expert on it but it looks to me like it's mostly dealing with stuff like data breaches or companies that have collected personal data about you that you can't control how they use it. My guess is that if all you wanted to do was, say, sell specialized hammers and wrenches to Europeans you probably wouldn't have to do much beyond make sure you don't leak customer information. It seems to be in response to the shenanigans that Yahoo, Google, and Facebook have been getting up to on top of the bajillion leaks of "literally everything including your password" leaks that have been happening.

Alpha Mayo
Jan 15, 2007
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ToxicSlurpee posted:

It doesn't apply to all small businesses in the US. It applies to those that want to do web stuff in that involves personal data of people in Europe.

which is any business using a CRM like Hubspot or Salesforce to track prospects and leads, or any business allowing Europeans to order their products/services. The big giant companies can afford the lawyers, writers, and IT infrastructure teams needed to become GDPR-compliant.
The 1-10 man small businesses out there can not. Many of these people use a CMS like Wordpress to juggle their own web site and can not afford to bring in the (expensive) manpower needed to become compliant. And the "customer data" tendrils can run very deep without even realizing it.

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Nov 5, 2003

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Alpha Mayo posted:

which is any business using a CRM like Hubspot or Salesforce to track prospects and leads, or any business allowing Europeans to order their products/services. The big giant companies can afford the lawyers, writers, and IT infrastructure teams needed to become GDPR-compliant.
The 1-10 man small businesses out there can not. Many of these people use a CMS like Wordpress to juggle their own web site and can not afford to bring in the (expensive) manpower needed to become compliant. And the "customer data" tendrils can run very deep without even realizing it.

WordPress is one of the biggest security holes that's ever existed. Every CRM is a pile of steaming garbage that needs to be forced into compliance because the businesses that develop them will never, ever make the software not terrible until they are forced to.

Blast of Confetti
Apr 21, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
the next big thing will be nut neutrality

Alpha Mayo
Jan 15, 2007
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there was this racist piece of shit in your av so I fixed it
you're welcome
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ToxicSlurpee posted:

WordPress is one of the biggest security holes that's ever existed. Every CRM is a pile of steaming garbage that needs to be forced into compliance because the businesses that develop them will never, ever make the software not terrible until they are forced to.

WordPress is disgusting but it's extremely popular with businesses who try to manage their own site instead of hiring a consultant charging $80/hour to change some text. My point was that the small businesses who use WP to handle their site probably don't have dedicated web/IT teams (or even a single dedicated person) to be able to deal with this poo poo. A $100M+ company can afford to bring on the consultants they need to get compliant. A small business with $500K yearly revenue, probably not. And a SB killing commerce with the EU because the regulation is so burdensome is exactly why it's so bad.

Woden
May 6, 2006
GDPR is really good, going to crack a beer and celebrate when it's finally implemented.

WonderfulWino
Sep 26, 2004

The grape wont cut me loose.

do u know jenny posted:



Not voting

• McCain, John (Republican - Arizona)




why cant he just die already

Rastor
Jun 2, 2001

What kind of awful garbage person would be against the GDPR

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


WordPress is a pile of PHP errors and security holes. Use concrete5 for your little angel site instead if you want something semi mainstream, it's easy as hell to develop for too.

ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

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Alpha Mayo posted:

WordPress is disgusting but it's extremely popular with businesses who try to manage their own site instead of hiring a consultant charging $80/hour to change some text. My point was that the small businesses who use WP to handle their site probably don't have dedicated web/IT teams (or even a single dedicated person) to be able to deal with this poo poo. A $100M+ company can afford to bring on the consultants they need to get compliant. A small business with $500K yearly revenue, probably not. And a SB killing commerce with the EU because the regulation is so burdensome is exactly why it's so bad.

And your point is god damned stupid is what it is. How many small businesses actually need anything that you can even log into? If all they want is an information page and a blog you can do that without WordPress. Actually selling poo poo on an individual website for a business that can't afford to properly secure it is on the "well, tough poo poo there, buddy" level. Same goes for acting like they absolutely must have a cool and amazing website like Amazon has, really. A business that small probably doesn't even need it. This attitude of "let's do everything as cheaply as possible" is exactly why the internet has so many security issues. Slapping fines on people who half rear end their security and leak vast volumes of customer data is a good thing. Same goes for "no, you will be compliant with this because privacy" is perfectly fine. It might not seem like a big deal but if a small business is storing personal data, credit card numbers, and identifying information in a way that's insufficiently secure that's going to lead to identity theft or leaks of personal information.

The fight there is that western society has declared that you do in fact have a right to privacy. The internet has been eroding that to drat near nothing. This set of laws is extending privacy protection to the internet. It's a good thing. You shouldn't have to worry about your information being leaked and your identity stolen because you bought a dog figurine off of a local craftsman that one one.

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


ToxicSlurpee posted:

How many small businesses actually need anything that you can even log into?

In my experience of selling sites to them, they all want to buy something they can log into. Do they need it? Not all, most though, good luck convincing them otherwise. Eventually they'd want edits or additional pages and might not want to pay for them either.

They're likely to use a Facebook page instead of a single page static site now imho.

E - cut down this Bible of text

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO fucked around with this message at 00:12 on May 20, 2018

BULBASAUR
Apr 6, 2009




Soiled Meat
I do CRM poo poo and GDPR owns I'm glad somebody is regulating the data wild west

Alpha Mayo
Jan 15, 2007
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there was this racist piece of shit in your av so I fixed it
you're welcome
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BULBASAUR posted:

I do CRM poo poo and GDPR owns I'm glad somebody is regulating the data wild west

lol seriously?

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Rastor
Jun 2, 2001

Picked up 10 more votes in the House, only 48 to go

https://www.battleforthenet.com/scoreboard/

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