Four Job Fiesta 2018 - Finally, A Grim Reaper

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Kyrosiris: May 24, 2006; You try to be happy when everyone is summoning you everywhere to "be their friend".

(Alternate Thread Title: FJF 2018 - A Death Sickle Rollback at Bal-Mart)

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2019 thread this direction :siren:

Welcome to the Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta 2018 thread! In its sixth year running, this thread will be the SA headquarters for the Four Job Fiesta, equal parts to keep us from taking over the FF Megathread as well as a single point of action for trading tricks and tips, cursing Gilgabot's lack of mercy, or whatever Fiesta-related discussion you may want. Much like the years before, we hope to bring lots of victories, lots of donations, and lots of berserkers from the Berserker Tree!

Quick Links: Goon Discord, Goon IRC, Official Website, Official Blog, Official Subreddit (yes, yes, I know, but it's official)

So Kyrosiris, what IS the Four Job Fiesta?

Every year, RevenantKioku and his trusty sidekick Gilgabot (or maybe it's the other way around?) organize the Fiesta as a charity drive for Child's Play and as a gathering for all FFV fans to celebrate the game. Mechanically, the Fiesta challenges you to play through Final Fantasy V using just one job from each Crystal. Hard Mode ups the ante, allowing Gilgabot to pull from past Crystals - you can, for example, get another White Mage from the Fire Crystal, or a Berserker from the Earth Crystal! In 2012, the Berserker Risk option was added as a way to pump up the difficulty even more - for every $10 raised prior to the Fiesta's start, every Berserker Risk participant was assigned a mandatory Berserker! Enough was raised to stick every participant at Risk with at least one Berserker, and SA member Trasson ended up with what was considered the nastiest team of the Fiesta - a Knight and THREE Berserkers! 2013 renamed Hard Mode to "Random Mode" which is honestly more accurate, and added the new Team 750/No-750 and Natural modes, adding extra fun and challenge. 2015 upped the stakes and added the much-beloved Chaos Mode, which was what we all wanted from Random all along - any job is possible from any crystal, and duplicates are possible, leading to a handful of Chaos Riskers ending up with FOUR. FREAKING. BERSERKERS. (RIP Everhate, The Chosen One) 2016 graced us with Pure Chaos, which is Chaos without repeats and with Mime and Freelancer in the character pool.

While the challenge is not one regularly "recommended" for those new to Final Fantasy V, there have been several goons who challenged the Fiesta as their first playthrough of the game and triumphed! That said, the challenge will definitely require a bit more aptitude and awareness of the game's mechanics and neat combos than a game where you plow through everything with !X-Fight, !X-Magic, and other powerful combos (that is, unless Gilgabot is merciful and gives you those combos). It goes a long way to help snap the decision paralysis that plagues a lot of first-time players of FFV, though.

Well, I've never played FFV before. Should I try anyways?

Absolutely! Like I said, lots of goons have earned their first victory in FFV through the Fiesta - either combinations of the restricted job access giving them real focus to finish the game, or getting advice from the litany of Fiesta veterans that haunt this thread and Discord, or for whatever reason. Plus, FFV is fun, and you're playing for charity (via either your donations or runs that you finish that trigger other people's pledges)!

How's this all work, then? What're the rules?

An example team would be mine from 2012 - I got Thief, Summoner, Ninja, and Samurai. From the Wind Crystal on, I had to have a full party of Thieves. Once I finished the Water Crystal, I got to choose a configuration of at least 1 Thief and at least 1 Summoner, and then the other two could be either Thieves or Summoners, with no limit aside from having at least one of each. The Fire crystal was the same - I had to field at least one Ninja, Summoner, and Thief at all times, and my fourth character could be what was best suited of my three job options. After the Earth Crystal, that was it - everyone was locked in. You can switch jobs around as is necessary, but you've gotta adhere to those guidelines. If you want your Ninja to learn some Summon Magic, that Summoner has to switch to being a Ninja too.

Note that for Natural and Chaos runs, you use Freelancers until you have obtained your assigned jobs. A Ranger/Samurai/Dragoon/Chemist Chaos run would use Freelancers until you get the Black Chocobo, and a White Mage/Time Mage/Bard/Chemist Natural run has Faris as a Freelancer until the same.

So who the hell is Gilgabot?

Gilgabot is the Twitter bot that does the backend paperwork of the Fiesta. You tweet keywords to him (@FF5ForFutures) at certain thresholds in your playthrough and he will do whatever those correspond to. For example, you can tweet "@FF5ForFutures #Water" to note that you've reached the Water Crystal. Gilgabot will then reply (maybe - he hit the daily tweet limit several times last year) with your Job assignment for that crystal. You can see a full list of his commands here. (link this to letsplaying's commands page when the site's back up)

Twitter? Ewww, I don't do that social media bullshit.

Tough. Don't blame Gilgabot, blame yourself or God. If you wanna Fiesta (at least officially - no one's stopping you from doing your own using random.org or similar), you gotta tweet. Worst case scenario, you make a throw-away account you use just for the Fiesta and then ignore it. Many goons do this every year.

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NOTE THAT IF YOU HAVE A PROTECTED ACCOUNT, YOU WILL HAVE EXTREME DIFFICULTY FIESTA-ING OFFICIALLY. Consider making a throwaway or PM me your twitter handle on SA and I'll give it to RK so he can have Gilgabot request to follow you. :siren:

Help! Gilgabot gave me a shittacular job combo and $BOSS is kicking my rear end!

Relax. Trasson got through the entire game and even the optional superboss Shinryu in 2012 with a Knight and three Berserkers. You can beat the focus of your ire too, with some strategy and tenacity. That said, we're not going to leave you in the lurch - lots of FFV pros participate in the Fiesta, and in 2012 we came up with a veritable compendium of knowledge, tactics, and advice (which got loving additions in 2013 and 2014, too!). You can find it here, but be aware it contains story and boss spoilers, as well as a significant amount of mechanical information for the game. Other resources include Alcharagia's Primer to FFV's Jobs, Sulla's Solo Single Class Challenges, Mega64's Resource Page, the FFV Algorithm Guide (for SNES and GBA), The Spirit of FFV (has built-in "translation" of names/spells between versions) and IRC! We'll all be prattling away on Discord!

Science is scary and I can't use !Mix, the most powerful ability in FFV! Help me!!!!

Relax. Learn the true power of :science:

here. Don't glitch Exdeath! (especially since your victory won't count :lol:

)

Alright, I'm in! What do I do?

Get on Twitter and send Gilgabot (@FF5ForFutures) a pre-registration tweet. This will look something like "@FF5ForFutures #regpurechaos #BERSERKERRISK". Then, just wait for the Fiesta to start!

What's New for 2018?

No idea. Possibly nothing, actually - RK's been more interested in site functionality and bot interaction suggestions this year. Admittedly the array of options is pretty diverse, so we'll see.

Trivia and Infographic Nonsense!

Every year, RevenantKioku puts out an infographic for the year's Fiesta, covering a lot of trivia and data, distribution of classes, stuff like that (as well as how fair and balanced Gilgabot was, which he always is). They're pretty neat, and are timg'd below - click the year (or expand the image, but they're really big) for big.

2011 Infographic:

2012 Infographic:

2013 Infographic:

(Thread) 2014 Infographic:

(Thread) 2015 Infographic:

(Thread) 2016 Infographic:

(Thread) 2017 Infographic:

Kyrosiris fucked around with this message at 19:54 on May 20, 2019

# ? May 21, 2018 04:03

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# ? Apr 28, 2024 04:42

Kyrosiris: May 24, 2006; You try to be happy when everyone is summoning you everywhere to "be their friend".

High Quality Goon-Made Fiesta Fanart!

2014 Fanart

(by Bloodwulfe)

(also by Bloodwulfe)

(by Asiina)

(again, by Bloodwulfe)

(by Shoehead)

(yup, still Bloodwulfe)

(Bloodwulfe: still the best)

(THE LAWS OF THE UNIVERSE MEAN NOTHING TO A_Raving_Loon)

Can of Worms is rad as hell and has made multiple FFV Advance patches, including the source of the above gif.
Fiesta State Mod(no mechanical changes)
FFVA Balance Mod (actual mechanical changes) (changelog)

2015 Fanart

Mega64 takes on the trials and tribulations of the Omnizerker.

(What's Flarnith's art doing here?!)

(neongrey needs to be sure you heard him correctly.)

2016 Fanart

(Asterism has to face some tough choices.)

(Koobes decided to correct Mid a bit.)

(Let's just call this a work by Edward_Tohr and move on with life)

2017 Fanart

(Mikl is having some problems with the weather.)

(Ablative assures me that, just like Ronka, it can only go up uP UP!!)

(Orange Fluffy Sheep demonstrates the value of Butzcoin. BUY IN NOW)

Ablative reminds us of that which we must sacrifice, because the numbers are infallible.)

(Bad Seafood has opinions on robots.)

2018 Fanart

(Aerdan lets us know what's up.)

(Orange Fluffy Sheep has important information that might SAVE YOUR LIFE.)

(Mega64 reminds us that the FBI is full of poo poo.)

(Archenetron is ready for suffering in The Run.)

(Obang Metho has relevant memes.)

Kyrosiris fucked around with this message at 03:48 on Jun 25, 2018

# ? May 21, 2018 04:03

Kyrosiris: May 24, 2006; You try to be happy when everyone is summoning you everywhere to "be their friend".

HERE THERE BE :toxx:

Aerdan posted:

I will donate $1 for every completed quadzerker run, up to $20.

Leraika posted:

Also. time:

I will donate $1 for every completed Forbidden run where Bartz is named Exodia, up to $40.

If forbidden ends up being sucky and unfun like natural, I'll also donate $.50 for every completed run where Bartz is named Exodia, period, up to $20.

edit: yes, they stack

Detheros posted:

[timg]

I loving hate the brave blade.

Seriously, gently caress this thing.

So if you get a Knight or a Freelancer and Complete a run with a 0 power Brave Blade I will donate 10 dollars per run up to $250, aka 25 completed runs, All I need to see is your NED kill with your Knight/Freelancer and your 0 Power Brave Blade.

Angling Dragon posted:

The Show Me How Its Done Challenge

Before the 20th of June, complete a run with the following jobs:
Wind: Knight
Water: Mystic Knight
Fire: Ranger
Earth: Dragoon

And I'll donate based on bosses defeated:
$5 per Exdeath
$10 per Shinryu
$10 per Omega
Max 10 defeats per boss

me. COMPLETE!!

Nasgate posted:

I'm going to donate 5$ for every other madman/woman that beats this game on the Matrix version. And a stacking additional 10$ for a triple crown on Matrix. 50 dollar limit for each, so 100$ total aside from whatever dumb donation incentives I give myself.

Kashuno posted:

I will donate $1 for every mobile run completed where Bartz is named 🍑 up to $75

Tempest_56 posted:

Alright, time. I failed my Risk run last year so:

I will donate $5 (up to $50) for every completed run with a full strength Brave Blade to counter my cowardice in the face of too many Zerks last year. I will double that if you do it without a Knight.

Koobes posted:

~~Are you Fast? Faster than THE RUN? If so, maybe your Bartz named FAST can beat the game with the runs jobs before the run starts. Post your completion, and $50 goes to the festivities. (Max $200)~~

COMPLETE!!

Detheros posted:

$250 if DD wipes at any point in World 1(doesn't count if it's intentional), $500 if he wins, these stack.

I wont be here for the first part of the run so I'm counting on you goons to keep track of the w1 wipe part. COMPLETE!!

Bad Seafood posted:

Much like the protagonist of the above comic, throwing away the safety and security of a presumably stable job, loving partner, and the thin veneer of social respectability, you too will throw caution to the wind and make terrible life choices that will most likely sabotage your ability to function in the world at large. Here's how it works:

Have at least two of the following classes in your party: Monk, Red Mage, Geomancer, Dragoon.

You may not have a Blue Mage or a Chemist.

Kill Shinryu.
Accomplish the above and I will donate $10 in your name, up to $200. Do it with all four classes and I'll make it $20. For proof, a screenshot of your party killing Shinryu should suffice.

Ground floor, dragon slayers.

derra posted:

Ok, I�ll get in on this. You guys fight too much.

I pledge to donate 5 dollars (once per person, max $50) for everyone who meets all the following requirements:

1) Triple Crowns
2) with a total party level under 100 and
3) with no individual party member having a level greater than 30.

Include a screenshot of your final levels!

Einwand posted:

Time to hopefully avoid the wonders of quadzerker this year with chaos berserker risk.

Also $5 for any goons that get quadzerk and beat sandworm, and an extra $20 for any of those poor souls that manage to grind up enough to beat NED without using the magic underflow snes bug, capped at $100 total. Also if I somehow get it again I'll throw an extra $50 on top .

jaclynhyde posted:

Know what, I'll get onto the toxx train.

I just played FFV outside the Fiesta for the first time, and getting to and beating Leviathan was still a giant pain in the rear end. So in the interest of making everyone suffer with me, I'll donate $5 for everyone who defeats Leviathan, up to $50.

Poque posted:

~~For each goon who finishes an official fiesta run before I do, I will donate $10, up to $750. To my disadvantage, this is likely to be among my busiest work weeks of the year. Limit two runs per goon.~~

COMPLETE!!!

Doom Goon posted:

I'm doing the Randomizer pledge again! Sorry I can't do more, I wanted to double it this year but unfortunately as I hinted before I did get some slightly unexpected expenses. Here's the details, pretty much the same as last time:

$1 per goon up to $20 for every goon that completes a run from now on to the end (must complete a normal run first) using Can Of Worms's Final Fantasy V Advance Randomizer. Make sure to emptyquote this post on a win so I can see it! Oh, and please don't use the FFVFJF site (probably not cool crowning on impossible runs), although if you want to slip a victory into another run's #Up that's probably okay.

It's up to you if you want to spoil the Jobs you get or not but I'd recommend it to reduce grinding and magic level confusion. Also, I'll probably wait until next year to actually donate so I can kill two birds with one stone and water that tree.

Kyrosiris fucked around with this message at 03:55 on Jun 27, 2018

# ? May 21, 2018 04:04

Arist: Feb 13, 2012; _{who, me?}

please god don't make me fight sandworm with quadzerkers a third time

# ? May 21, 2018 04:05

Reiterpallasch: Nov 3, 2010; Fun Shoe

i think i'm feeling variant fatigue

# ? May 21, 2018 04:06

StrangeAeon: Jul 11, 2011

Ground Floor, ya'll!

I can't wait to see what's new this year!

# ? May 21, 2018 04:06

Reiterpallasch: Nov 3, 2010; Fun Shoe

maybe my first fiesta this year will be a completely normal one, idk

# ? May 21, 2018 04:06

dis astranagant: Dec 14, 2006

IDK how much I'll actually play this year. Just got my dickbeaters on Monster Hunter Generations and Path of Exile has a good league starting next weekend. But I'll try and get at least one run knocked out.

# ? May 21, 2018 04:06

Red Alert 2 Yuris Revenge: May 8, 2006; "My brain is amazing! It's full of wrinkles, and... Uh... Wait... What am I trying to say?"

# ? May 21, 2018 04:06

Nethertribes: Mar 19, 2011; BLOOD

It's that time of year again, hell yeah.

# ? May 21, 2018 04:07

Airspace: Nov 5, 2010

Yessssssss

I have yet to complete a run any year.

But yesssssssss nevertheless.

# ? May 21, 2018 04:07

Classtoise: Feb 11, 2008; THINKS CON-AIR WAS A GOOD MOVIE

Arist posted:

please god don't make me fight sandworm with quadzerkers a third time

You've already sealed your fate.

# ? May 21, 2018 04:07

Leraika: Jun 14, 2015; Luckily, I *did* save your old avatar. Fucked around and found out indeed.

Hopefully I'll be less of a lame piece of poo poo this year and finish some more runs!!!!

# ? May 21, 2018 04:08

neongrey: Feb 28, 2007; Plaguing your posts with incidental music.

yay! fiesta!

# ? May 21, 2018 04:09

Grinnblade: Sep 24, 2007

Arist posted:

please god don't make me fight sandworm with quadzerkers a third time

There's quite an easy solution to this.

It's called "don't loving zerker risk because some dumbass with more money than sense is gonna water the tree with like 300 berserkers and some things just aren't worth dying for"

# ? May 21, 2018 04:10

Kyrosiris: May 24, 2006; You try to be happy when everyone is summoning you everywhere to "be their friend".

Also among the new features to Carbybot (our Discord bot) this year, there's this for the week and a half until preregistration starts:

So yeah, come hang out, it's a fun place.

# ? May 21, 2018 04:10

Arist: Feb 13, 2012; _{who, me?}

Grinnblade posted:

There's quite an easy solution to this.

It's called "don't loving zerker risk because some dumbass with more money than sense is gonna water the tree with like 300 berserkers and some things just aren't worth dying for"

# ? May 21, 2018 04:11

W.T. Fits: Apr 21, 2010; Ready to Poyozo Dance all over your face.

Man, I don't think I even finished my initial run last year. I dunno what it is, but I keep losing motivation to play through this and it kinda bums me out because this is legitimately one of my favorite FFs and I really do enjoy the challenge run itself. :smith:

Gonna give it another go again this year, though, because I am nothing if not a creature of habit.

Relax Or DIE posted:

# ? May 21, 2018 04:13

Grinnblade: Sep 24, 2007

Arist posted:

no

A fine rebuttal indeed. Then again, I got quadzerker last year and made it to around Fork Tower before I went "gently caress this poo poo" and noped out, so maybe I have a bit of a sore spot for quadzerk still.

# ? May 21, 2018 04:16

Kyrosiris: May 24, 2006; You try to be happy when everyone is summoning you everywhere to "be their friend".

In fairness, #fifthjob exists as a potential out for that.

# ? May 21, 2018 04:20

NGDBSS: Dec 30, 2009

Hopefully I don't flake out this year. In theory it shouldn't be hard but who knows given last year.

# ? May 21, 2018 04:22

Countblanc: Apr 20, 2005; _{Help a hero out!}

Relax Or DIE posted:

this is the content i come here for

# ? May 21, 2018 04:26

Huzzah!: Sep 15, 2007; Malnutrition is scarier than any beastie.

# ? May 21, 2018 04:26

Huzzah!: Sep 15, 2007; Malnutrition is scarier than any beastie.

https://twitter.com/muilog3/status/992352776213561344

# ? May 21, 2018 04:38

Fister Roboto: Feb 21, 2008

berserker
berserker
berserker
thief
someone who is good at ff5 please help me beat byblos. my party is dying

# ? May 21, 2018 04:46

Kyrosiris: May 24, 2006; You try to be happy when everyone is summoning you everywhere to "be their friend".

Fister Roboto posted:

berserker
berserker
berserker
thief
someone who is good at ff5 please help me beat byblos. my party is dying

steal more elixirs

# ? May 21, 2018 04:59

Koobes: Nov 6, 2012

ready to cruise along

# ? May 21, 2018 05:08

Fister Roboto: Feb 21, 2008

ps this always belongs on the first page

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ginfs4TY0oo

# ? May 21, 2018 05:12

fits: Jan 1, 2008; Love Always,
The Captain

i had a bard and three zerks as my first run and was pretty :effort:

about it and barely got that one done in time

maybe this year will be better!!

# ? May 21, 2018 05:45

berenzen: Jan 23, 2012

Got 3 runs last year, two runs the year before. Maybe I'll get 4 done this year.

# ? May 21, 2018 06:07

Admiral Joeslop: Jul 8, 2010

My goal every year is to surpass the amount of runs I did the previous year. Is it sustainable? No probably not. I will also be streaming at least some of my runs so everyone can laugh at my incompetence.

# ? May 21, 2018 12:18

Sakako: Dec 31, 2013

Okay! It's time to do the thing. Finally taking part in fiesta this year. Gonna try and complete 1 run.

# ? May 21, 2018 13:22

Ace Transmuter: May 19, 2017; I like video games

Posting this link again: my compilation of the changes between the Mobile/Steam port and the GBA version:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ff5fjf/comments/8l29r7/differences_between_mobile_iosandroidsteam_and/

tl;dr:
*Most glitches/exploits fixed.
*Classes hit with some version of a nerf bat: Chemist, Time Mage, Blue Mage, and especially Beastmaster
*Classes somewhat buffed: Berserker, Geomancer, Bard
*For Ninjas, Dancing Dagger/Double Lance is the new Double Lance/Chicken Knife
*Bosses are a bigger pain, mostly due to the Heavy tag causing status effects to wear off much quicker, also full-party magic damage splitting not being quite as extreme.
*Also React scripts counter commands and not actions, so good luck against Omega and Rugwizard!
*Enemy sprites look amazing, all other graphics look much worse (though I'll say in general it tends to look better in play than it does in any screenshots I've seen)

There are some other minor changes, but these are the biggest ones you'll most likely encounter

Ace Transmuter fucked around with this message at 18:12 on May 21, 2018

# ? May 21, 2018 18:02

Admiral Joeslop: Jul 8, 2010

Every time I'm reminded of the mobile/Steam versions, I get upset again. Everything looks amazing EXCEPT the character sprites.

# ? May 21, 2018 18:08

Kheldarn: Feb 17, 2011

Last year was my first year. Did 4, finished 3. Maybe I'll make it to 4 this year?

# ? May 21, 2018 23:50

KataraniSword: Apr 22, 2008; but at least I don't have
a MLP or MSPA avatar.
I am my own man.

agradine posted:

*Enemy sprites look amazing, all other graphics look much worse (though I'll say in general it tends to look better in play than it does in any screenshots I've seen)

Maybe they'll wise up after what happened with Chrono Trigger and Romancing SaGa 2 and actually either offer the old graphics or just completely retrofit them.

As much as it'd suck to lose the quality of life minor bugs and glitches that make some Fiesta runs possible, there's a certain appeal to doing things the Legitimate Way.

# ? May 22, 2018 01:50

Ace Transmuter: May 19, 2017; I like video games

KataraniSword posted:

Maybe they'll wise up after what happened with Chrono Trigger and Romancing SaGa 2 and actually either offer the old graphics or just completely retrofit them.

As much as it'd suck to lose the quality of life minor bugs and glitches that make some Fiesta runs possible, there's a certain appeal to doing things the Legitimate Way.

IMO the fixes to the Berserker make it worthwhile alone. It's still not worth it to bother with the class in a generic playthrough, but in a Fiesta by itself (and not saddled with a Tri- or Quad-zerker) it acquits itself nicely, especially if you can give it a good support ability (like Equip Whips or Equip Harps). They certainly make a more welcome addition to the party than some of the other bottom tier classes (looking at you, Geomancer and Monk).

OTOH Beastmaster fans will want to steer clear of these versions, since a major part of Beastmaster strategy resolves around catches which do Gravity-based damage, which no longer work on Heavy targets. OTOOH, there still isn't anything that's immune to Bear element.

# ? May 22, 2018 18:20

derra: Dec 29, 2012

Kyrosiris posted:

steal more elixirs

Hi potions at least.

Dammit this is coming up soon? Deadfire is out!

Am at 69 or something Triple Crowns in a row over the past 3 years, I'm worried about losing my streak

derra fucked around with this message at 18:29 on May 22, 2018

# ? May 22, 2018 18:23

Admiral Joeslop: Jul 8, 2010

Please join us on the Discord! We discuss lots of things, pester CarbyBot to give us Pure Chaos teams we can complain about, and OFSheep/Kyro tell us how wrong our knowledge and strats are!

# ? May 22, 2018 18:31

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# ? Apr 28, 2024 04:42

Sneaky Wombat: Jan 9, 2010

The yearly reminder not to do practice runs and burn myself out waiting for this crap to start.

# ? May 22, 2018 19:15

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