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 Welcome to the Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta 2014 thread! Much like in 2013, this will be the SA headquarters for the Four Job Fiesta, equal parts to keep us from taking over the FF Megathread as well as a single point of action for trading tricks and trips, cursing Gilgabot's lack of mercy, or whatever Fiesta-related discussion you may want. Quick Links: Goon IRC, Official Website, Official Blog, Official Subreddit (yes, yes, I know, but it's official) So Kyrosiris, what IS the Four Job Fiesta? Every year, RevenantKioku and his trusty sidekick Gilgabot (or maybe it's the other way around?) organize the Fiesta as a charity drive for Child's Play and as a gathering for all FFV fans to celebrate the game. Mechanically, the Fiesta challenges you to play through Final Fantasy V using just one job from each Crystal. Hard Mode ups the ante, allowing Gilgabot to pull from past Crystals - you can, for example, get another White Mage from the Fire Crystal, or a Berserker from the Earth Crystal! In 2012, the Berserker Risk option was added as a way to pump up the difficulty even more - for every $10 raised prior to the Fiesta's start, every Berserker Risk participant was assigned a mandatory Berserker! Enough was raised to stick every participant at Risk with at least one Berserker, and SA member Trasson ended up with what was considered the nastiest team of the Fiesta - a Knight and THREE Berserkers! 2013 renamed Hard Mode to "Random Mode" which is honestly more accurate, and added the new Team 750/No-750 and Natural modes, adding extra fun and challenge. While the challenge is not one regularly "recommended" for those new to Final Fantasy V, there have been several goons who challenged the Fiesta as their first playthrough of the game and triumphed! That said, the challenge will definitely require a bit more aptitude and awareness of the game's mechanics and neat combos than a game where you plow through everything with !X-Fight, !X-Magic, and other powerful combos (that is, unless Gilgabot is merciful and gives you those combos). Well, I've never played FFV before. Should I try anyways? Absolutely! Like I said, lots of goons have earned their first victory in FFV through the Fiesta - either combinations of the restricted job access giving them real focus to finish the game, or getting advice from the littany of Fiesta veterans that haunt this thread and IRC, or for whatever reason. Plus, FFV is fun, and you're playing for charity (via either your donations or runs that you finish that trigger other people's pledges)! How's this all work, then? What're the rules? An example team would be mine from 2012 - I got Thief, Summoner, Ninja, and Samurai. From the Wind Crystal on, I had to have a full party of Thieves. Once I finished the Water Crystal, I got to choose a configuration of at least 1 Thief and at least 1 Summoner, and then the other two could be either Thieves or Summoners, with no limit aside from having at least one of each. The Fire crystal was the same - I had to field at least one Ninja, Summoner, and Thief at all times, and my fourth character could be what was best suited of my three job options. After the Earth Crystal, that was it - everyone was locked in. You can switch jobs around as is necessary, but you've gotta adhere to those guidelines. If you want your Ninja to learn some Summon Magic, that Summoner has to switch to being a Ninja too. So who the hell is Gilgabot? Gilgabot is the Twitter bot that does the backend paperwork of the Fiesta. You tweet keywords to him (@FF5ForFutures) at certain thresholds in your playthrough and he will do whatever those correspond to. For example, you can tweet "@FF5ForFutures #Water" to note that you've reached the Water Crystal. Gilgabot will then reply (maybe - he hit the daily tweet limit several times last year) with your Job assignment for that crystal. You can see a full list of his commands here. (link this to letsplaying's commands page when the site's back up) Twitter? Ewww, I don't do that social media bullshit. Tough. Don't blame Gilgabot, blame yourself or God. If you wanna Fiesta (at least officially - no one's stopping you from doing your own using random.org or similar), you gotta tweet. Worst case scenario, you make a throw-away account you use just for the Fiesta and then ignore it. Help! Gilgabot gave me a shittacular job combo and $BOSS is kicking my rear end! Relax. Trasson got through the entire game and even the optional superboss Shinryu in 2012 with a Knight and three Berserkers. You can beat the focus of your ire too, with some strategy and tenacity. That said, we're not going to leave you in the lurch - lots of FFV pros participate in the Fiesta, and in 2012 we came up with a veritable compendium of knowledge, tactics, and advice (which got loving additions in 2013, too!). You can find it here, but be aware it contains story and boss spoilers, as well as a significant amount of mechanical information for the game. Other resources include Sulla's Solo Straight Class Challenges, the FFV Algorithm Guide (for SNES and GBA), The Spirit of FFV (has built-in "translation" of names/spells between versions) and IRC! We'll all be prattling away at #FF5Fiesta on SynIRC. Science is scary and I can't use !Mix, the most powerful ability in FFV! Help me!!!! Relax. Learn the true power of  here. Don't glitch Exdeath!Alright, I'm in! What do I do? Get on Twitter and send Gilgabot (@FF5ForFutures) a pre-registration tweet. This will look something like "@FF5ForFutures #regrand #BERSERKERRISK". Then, just wait for the Fiesta to start! What's New for 2014? FF1 Parties! Using #regff1, you draw only from the classic six FF1 jobs: Knight, Thief, Monk, Red Mage, Black Mage, and White Mage. This is also an enforced Natural run, meaning no cross-pollination of abilities! The Natural, Team750, and TeamNo750 options make their return from 2013. Additionally, the completely unwieldy Disqus comments on the main site are gone - official communication from RK is gonna be through the official blog for the Fiesta found here or through  the official subreddit, found here.Trivia and Infographic Nonsense! Every year, RevenantKioku puts out an infographic for the year's Fiesta, covering a lot of trivia and data, distribution of classes, stuff like that (as well as how fair and balanced Gilgabot was, which he always is). They're pretty neat, and are timg'd below - click the year (or expand the image, but they're really big) for big. 2011 Infographic:  2012 Infographic:  2013 Infographic:  Unlike in 2013, I will not be maintaining a list of winners or donors in the OP, sheerly because of the absolutely ridiculous volume of winners and donors. You guys were entirely too skilled and generous for me to keep up with. I'm really sorry.  This does NOT mean you guys are off the hook from watering the Berserker Tree! WE BETTER HAVE A BETTER HARVEST THIS YEAR, OR ELSE.
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Apparently this year's Fiesta is awesome enough to inspire fanart.   (by Bloodwulfe)  (also by Bloodwulfe)  (by Asiina)  (again, by Bloodwulfe)  (by Shoehead)  (yup, still Bloodwulfe)  (Bloodwulfe: still the best)  (THE LAWS OF THE UNIVERSE MEAN NOTHING TO A_Raving_Loon) Kyrosiris fucked around with this message at 04:48 on Aug 11, 2014 |
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May 14, 2014 15:40
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Probably only gonna do one run this year. I'm actually curious what the gimmick runs will be for this year because you'd think by 2013 he's probably done all the ones that would make sense (all mages, no mages, etc)
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May 14, 2014 15:47
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This'll be my first FJF, I am excited to get bad job combinations and attempt Shinryu only to lose with said bad job combos.
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May 14, 2014 15:47
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Orgia Carnaval posted:This'll be my first FJF, I am excited to get bad job combinations and attempt Shinryu only to lose with said bad job combos. If Trasson can kill Shinryu with a Knight and three Berserkers, you can kill Shinryu with whatever you get. 
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May 14, 2014 15:48
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Before pre-reg starts I should really finish my second run from last year. Real life got in the way so I got distracted before I could grind enough to kill Neo Exdeath. Think it was Blue Mage/Mystic Knight/Ninja/Monk. I'll definitely be going for Random/Berserker Risk again because I hate myself.
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May 14, 2014 15:51
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Awww yeah I'm excited to do this. Hoping for a Dragoon so I can have something from my favorite team build.
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May 14, 2014 15:51
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Oh also, if someone has the contents of my  post on Chemists/!Mix from last year or has the Berserker Tree picture, I'd be super appreciative. The Archives are down and I can't go fetch them myself. 
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May 14, 2014 15:52
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I literally beat the game for the first time yesterday, but there's a good chance I'll do this still. I found the game got pretty easy by the end with a bunch of classes/freelancer, so a challenge would be fun.
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May 14, 2014 15:59
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       I'm probably not going to bother trying to top last year, but I'm definitely in.
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May 14, 2014 16:02
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Is it wrong if I consider this to be a highlight of my summer? If so, I don't want to be right.
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May 14, 2014 16:06
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I completed this game seven times last year, in the process using all of the 20 jobs, and beat the Sealed Temple under Four Job Fiesta rules, including Neo Shinryu. I shouldn't be this pumped to play FF5 again.
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May 14, 2014 16:06
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I haven't played this game in years but I'm definitely going to go for this and be completely useless!
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May 14, 2014 16:13
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If memory serves, last year there were some people in Berserker Risk who got less than three Berserkers. We can fix that this year, right? 
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May 14, 2014 16:18
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Been wanting to do this for almost a year (only found out about it after last year's was done).
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May 14, 2014 16:19
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I'm pretty excited for this. If it's anything like last year, I'll power through my first game and stall at the Earth crystal on the second.
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May 14, 2014 16:21
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I know one mode that would bring me back for more ff fiving is some way to commit to a full circuit of classes. Where in additional playthroughs the classes you've already played are removed from the pool and you only pass the condition by beating the game six times and using all of the classes at least once. My body is prepped. My life is poo poo. Let's do this.
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May 14, 2014 16:23
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I gotta buy a GBA Advance for this. I already have the game, and got up to Neo XDeath last time with Blue Mage/Mystic Knight/Ninja/Lancer. At that point, I just couldn't deal enough damage and gave up
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May 14, 2014 17:10
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Oh gently caress. It's that time again! I think I'll use the GBA version this time instead of the iOS version. iOS is pretty as hell but ugh analog walking on a tile based map was so annoying.
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May 14, 2014 17:17
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Made it to the last boss last year and then didn't bother finishing because I'm so drat lazy. Maybe I'll actually finish a run this year.
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May 14, 2014 17:52
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Mega64 posted:Made it to the last boss last year and then didn't bother finishing because I'm so drat lazy. I'll heckle you in guild chat if you don't.
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May 14, 2014 17:55
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I'm so stoked for this and I never do challenge runs for anything else ever.
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May 14, 2014 17:58
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poo poo, it's this time already?
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May 14, 2014 17:59
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I didn't participate this year since I felt like I had other things going on. Nuts to that this year. I've wanted to participate for a while and this'll be the year. And I'm even going Berserker Risk. Anyway, it still sounds like GBA is the best way to play this. Aside from the sorta-doofy graphics and the virtualized buttons, what are the upsides and downsides of the Android version? Is it easier to get screen-captures? (A little part of me would like to play on hardware, rather than emulation.)
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May 14, 2014 17:59
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Assuming Android is the same as iOS, it has an improved auto-battle system - everyone repeats their last action indefinitely or auto-attacks if they can't, and the game runs at double speed while it's on. Also it might have been patched since I played it, but Omniscient could cast Reset even while Berserked, which killed a lot of strategies against him. e: Also don't be too hard on the graphics for 5, at least - the sprites are doofy, but the enemy art is beautiful.
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May 14, 2014 18:03
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Don't worry resident insane old man w/r/t FF5 OFS is here and there's no way in hell I'm not signing up. Might skip the berserker risk because after attempting a SCC I think I have explored every possible dimension to those fuckers.
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May 14, 2014 18:03
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GBA is the best way unless you get Red Mage.
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May 14, 2014 18:03
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I will be participating again, maybe I'll get White Mage first this time too just so I can run up the countryside pummeling every beast in sight with my anime KKK. Should be a good way to kill time while leveling up a DPS class in XIV anyways.
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May 14, 2014 18:05
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ProfessorProf posted:Also it might have been patched since I played it, but Omniscient could cast Reset even while Berserked, which killed a lot of strategies against him. That got patched, as did Shinryu's berserk immunity.
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May 14, 2014 18:06
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When's the run expected to officially start? I didn't see that mentioned in the OP.
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May 14, 2014 18:14
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Rotten Red Rod posted:When's the run expected to officially start? I didn't see that mentioned in the OP. I think it starts June 1st.
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May 14, 2014 18:16
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Cool stuff, Kyrosiris. Thanks again for the great OP and working on this event. I'll probably do a run, but I'll admit it won't be as awesome as my first run since it was my first finished run so everything was new and exciting. I also lucked out with a great group (Blue Mage, Mystic Knight, Ninja, and  DANCER ), so I'll have to pick a challenging run. If not, I'll throw in $10 regardless. Edward_Lapine fucked around with this message at 03:04 on May 15, 2014 |
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May 14, 2014 18:22
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Rotten Red Rod posted:When's the run expected to officially start? I didn't see that mentioned in the OP. Pre-registration starts June 1. We'll probably find out the actual start date then. There's usually the possibility of an early start, because RK does a run that's voted on by the fans that, when it ends, the Fiesta starts officially (but there's always a failsafe "If I'm not done by $DATE, it starts on $DATE).
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May 14, 2014 18:22
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Nah, that's just when pre-registration starts. E: f, b
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Oh man, I cannot wait for June to get here. This is always a great way to kickoff summer. 
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Kyrosiris posted:Pre-registration starts June 1. We'll probably find out the actual start date then. There's usually the possibility of an early start, because RK does a run that's voted on by the fans that, when it ends, the Fiesta starts officially (but there's always a failsafe "If I'm not done by $DATE, it starts on $DATE). Think he's not doing that this year, but instead is having two speedrunners compete to see who finishes sooner. e: Source Mega64 fucked around with this message at 18:30 on May 14, 2014 |
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May 14, 2014 18:27
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Mega64 posted:Think he's not doing that this year, but instead is having two speedrunners compete to see who finishes sooner. Oh that's interesting and neat.
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May 14, 2014 18:29
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Didn't we reach a funding goal and he had to beat FFXII last year? I forget what happened with that.
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May 14, 2014 18:31
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FFV is one of my favorite FFs and I always miss out on this. Wildstar be damned, I'm going to do it this year.
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I am unreasonably excited for this, and for Gilgabot to scream at me that my victory has been logged for processing.
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