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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQlVmvXAGLI Kia ora, and welcome to the Aotearoa new zealand politics thread. Click for previous ones What is Aotearoa new zealand politics? Aotearoa new zealand is a country of about 4.7 million people. It’s a Westminster-style unicameral parliamentary democracy, with a Prime Minister leading the government. The head of state is Queen Elizabeth 2, represented by a Governor-General. Elections are held every three years (the last one was in 2017), using a mixed-member proportional (MMP) electoral system. This video is a good explainer, but essentially you get two votes: one for your local representative (electorate MP), and one for your preferred party. The 120 seats in Parliament are filled by the 71 winning electorate MPs, then the remainder with MPs from the party ‘list’, until proportionality with the party vote is achieved. The current parliament looks like this:  MMP has traditionally led to a greater number of parties being represented, and required coalitions or confidence and supply agreements between parties to form governments. The current parliament has five parties, the lowest number under MMP (introduced in 1996). Who are the main characters?  Jacinda Ardern is Prime Minister and leader of the New Zealand Labour Party. She’s young, charismatic and popular, and got thrown into the party leadership position just a month before the election. Labour is a third-way social democratic party, with its support coming mainly from urban liberals, Māori, Pasifika and a dwindling segment of its traditional working class base. Its main priorities are addressing the crises in housing, health and education that stem from the last government’s deliberate underinvestment.  Winston Peters is Deputy Prime Minister and leader of the New Zealand First Party. He’s been an MP for close to four decades and was the ‘kingmaker’ in the last election. NZ First is a populist, interventionist and xenophobic party. It’s kind of in the mould of UKIP and other anti-immigration parties, getting votes from the elderly and the alienated working class. Its main priorities are pork-barrelling provincial Aotearoa new zealand, and planting One Billion Trees.  Marama Davidson and James Shaw are co-leaders of the Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand. The Greens are a left-ecologist party, with supporters tending to come from either social justice or environmentalist camps. They’ve become a lot more mainstream in the past decade or so, and are endlessly told to abandon the left-wing stuff by the commentariat. This government marks the first time the Greens have held ministerial portfolios.  Simon Bridges is Leader of the Opposition and of the New Zealand National Party. He’s Māori, a self-described compassionate conservative, and held a range of portfolios including Transport, Economic Development, and Energy and Resources in the previous government. National is a liberal-conservative party, with its support coming from farmers and the petty bourgeoisie. It’s still in denial about losing at the last election, but seems to be focusing on attacking the government for being soft on crime and tough on oil companies.  David Seymour is the Association of Consumers and Taxpayers. He’s been gifted a seat by the National Party in the hopes of getting a second ACT MP (weird quirk of MMP), but that hasn’t worked out. ACT is a libertarian party, with its support coming from engineers, guys who do computer stuff, and the suburb of Epsom. His current priorities are legalising voluntary euthanasia and cutting red tape, except as it relates to housing density in his electorate. Wow, sounds interesting! Where can I find out more? Stuff – Biggest news website NZ Herald – Editorially right-wing, Auckland focus. RNZ – Public broadcaster, good. The Spinoff – Youth, Auckland and transport focus, kind of tediously centrist Newsroom – Pretty new. Cover different stories than the others, with a deeper/more investigative focus bike tory posted:Basically all ISPs in NZ are what they say on the tin if you've got a fibre connection. The cheaper ones have shittier customer service if something goes wrong, and be sure to check the TOS to see what/if any packet shaping they do. That's the only real difference between the cheapo $75/month ones and $95/month or whatever Spark expect from you these days. exmarx fucked around with this message at 11:15 on Aug 22, 2019 |
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Winston "Event Horizon" Peters.
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A reminder for page 1 of the thread: homophobic megachurch Preacher Brian Tamaki started a fire in a pile of garbage, then fell into it and burnt large sections of his body, including his genitals. My dude burnt his dick in a dumpster fire that he started, and I've never seen a man's life create such a perfect metaphor for itself.
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I was hoping to get the first bad post of the thread, but I see I have been soundly beaten.
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At the risk of starting this thread off by being accused of racism too, I think Labour have done a decent job of their changes to the post-study employment entitlements for people on student visas. https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/358747/changes-to-student-visas-could-restrict-post-study-employment
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Vagabundo posted:I was hoping to get the first bad post of the thread, but I see I have been soundly beaten.
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HAHAHA YOUR COUNTRY IS HOT GARBAGE AUSTRALIA SUPREMACY Can I move there?
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Starshark posted:HAHAHA YOUR COUNTRY IS HOT GARBAGE AUSTRALIA SUPREMACY gently caress off we're full of hot garbage
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Starshark posted:HAHAHA YOUR COUNTRY IS HOT GARBAGE AUSTRALIA SUPREMACY Look, we are already full of racist poo poo heads here, we don't need any aussies coming over and making things worse.
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Love that OP. NZ First gets a good laugh for what it actually is. I was confused for a moment why we had smeg head before coming to my senses, such is his power.
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The accusation of NZ First pork barreling the regions is totally false and unfair because it suggests that Shane Jones will proactively pursue regional development projects. You know, instead of sitting on his $1bn budget like the lazy wanker that he is and rubber stamping whatever useless projects get proposed to him without even reading the executive summaries in full.
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It also misrepresents National as maybe not pork-barrelling the regions given their below-return regional roads and farming subsidies.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI_Y2rt8XN8
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The Spinoff is centrist? Every article I've seen linked here and on FB seems pretty leftist, but perhaps that's just the cross-section of it that I'm getting due to this being a leftist thread and my tendency not to be friends with non-lefties
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Wafflecopper posted:The Spinoff is centrist? Every article I've seen linked here and on FB seems pretty leftist, but perhaps that's just the cross-section of it that I'm getting due to this being a leftist thread and my tendency not to be friends with non-lefties they're not really centrist, but they definitely seem to be aimed at people whose parents read the listener. also they're trying to rehabilitate wayne mapp for some reason
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Didn't Peter Thiel and the guy from reddit purchase your country? You're telling me they didn't evict you all 
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quote:His current priorities are legalising voluntary euthanasia and cutting red tape, except as it relates to housing density in his electorate. Why is this the one thing libertarians are always totally cool with the government being heavy-handed as gently caress with
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Lightning Lord posted:Didn't Peter Thiel and the guy from reddit purchase your country? You're telling me they didn't evict you all He can't get the blood of virgins if he kicks everyone out.
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Passive aggressive lower case ftw
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Cicero posted:goddammit Libertarian freedom is their freedom specifically, from responsibility, consequence or any sort of inconvenience.
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sebmojo posted:Passive aggressive lower case ftw I'm into it What's everyone's take on the Pakeha woman gets a moko kauae story? I've seen it floating around my social media a bunch. I'm on my phone so just imagine a macron please The Schwa fucked around with this message at 00:17 on Jun 4, 2018 |
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it would have been really funny if they just made one of the topp twins a dame
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The Schwa posted:I'm into it "Because she was being called to it" is some grade A pretentiousness, if she'd just up and gone 'I thought it would look cool' I wouldn't give a drat. At least, not until I saw the picture. That doesn't look good at all, what was the point? It's like hacking off a finger because you claim to identify with the Simpson family.
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The Schwa posted:I'm into it My wife is Taiwanese. We have traveled Taiwan together multiple times. She showed me facets of both ~modern~ and aboriginal Taiwanese culture and it was incredible. It doesn't mean I'm going to get "Taiwan Taiwan" stamped on my forehead or strut around in traditional Formosan clothing. There is a line between embracing the culture of someone you love without prejudice and "cultural appropriation". It doesn't really feel like the line is that grey. You also have to be pretty tone deaf to grow up in NZ, have even the most basic understanding of NZ history and still think that this was going to be a good idea. I mean, it apparently took her own husband two and a half years to come to terms with the idea....
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The Schwa posted:I'm into it I’ve got no problems with people getting Maori style tattoos as kirituhi, which is all this is at the end of the day. I mean gently caress, if you absolutely have to have it mean something, just pretend it does But the fact she’s presenting it as a moko, and saying that she feels entitled for it to be one because of *laundry list of reasons* is just yea, like WarpedNaba said, pure pretentiousness, no matter how much your husband/tattooist is vouching for you I feel the fact she didn’t simply just put it somewhere other than her face is telling too alpaca diseases fucked around with this message at 06:54 on Jun 4, 2018 |
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Xik posted:It doesn't mean I'm going to get "Taiwan Taiwan" stamped on my forehead The last person I read about who did this got the poo poo kicked out of him by ten mainland labourers.
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Sir Bill English
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alpaca diseases posted:But the fact she’s presenting it as a moko, and saying that she feels entitled for it to be one because of *laundry list of reasons* is just yea, like WarpedNaba said, pure pretentiousness, no matter how much your husband/tattooist is vouching for you Ya I think the article The Schwa linked says it really well - it's not so much about hard and fast rules forbidding white people ever getting moko, more about contexts and relationships in which Maori can share taonga rather than pakeha taking them
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Ratios and Tendency posted:Sir Bill English For services in losing to Labour, twice.
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Big Bad Beetleborg posted:The last person I read about who did this got the poo poo kicked out of him by ten mainland labourers. Yeah, it was a reference to that. I didn't link it because the photos in most of the articles are pretty rough, but the NZ Herald article seems fine (don't click through to the source unless you want to see a beaten face). Sort of off topic, but the hatred is real. Even in NZ, we've been at the super market or the warehouse and have had shitheads tell her she "isn't Taiwanese", shes "Chinese". Like just casual conversation with a checkout or something can turn to poo poo. I remember one guy in front of us in line one time just randomly telling her I would be able to "give her nice handsome white babies". She actively avoids speaking mandarin over here at all because she doesn't want to deal with it. Even at work (we work together) where we frequently have contractors come in that that speak mandarin, she staunchly refuses to let on she speaks or understands it. On our wedding day, we were at the Langham for photo shoot and there was a Chinese employee directing people around, calling elevator etc. Wife and her mum were speaking in Taiwanese (her mum doesn't speak English), and the employee asked me what "dialect of Chinese" they were speaking as she hadn't heard it before. I told her it was Taiwanese and her face went deadpan and she sort of stormed off.....
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How many people in NZ know the issue with Taiwan and China? Or was it people from China giving you guys grief?
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Im pretty sure that most kiwis know the rough details of the Taiwan/China beef.
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Yeah I don't think it's that many. I just assume those that talk poo poo that aren't obviously from the mainland have spent time there or something, but I don't really know.
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Ghostlight posted:I wouldn't put money on it. I'd put money against it
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bike tory posted:Im pretty sure that most kiwis know the rough details of the Taiwan/China beef. Amazingly optimistic seeing as most kiwis don't know the rough details of the Maori/England beef.
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"The deal with all the Maori/English beef? Well I heard we're one of the last countries to deal with bovis.."
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I know Taiwan and China have beef, and the beef has to do with Taiwans sovereignty, but I don't know the specifics. I don't think people are dumb for not knowing that Taiwan and China have beef, or that Myanmar and Burma are the same place, or that a billion other things are weird because history.
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I thought china got all their beef from us x D
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klen dool posted:I know Taiwan and China have beef, and the beef has to do with Taiwans sovereignty, but I don't know the specifics. I don't think people are dumb for not knowing that Taiwan and China have beef, or that Myanmar and Burma are the same place, or that a billion other things are weird because history. Ya this is what I mean when I say the "rough details", not the specific history of the Chinese cultural revolution and Taiwan's government-in-exile or anything
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