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Witcher 3 is just a GTA reskin. I'm super hype for this, CDPR have a pretty spotless track record.
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Donnerberg posted:Gibson isn't coming after this game specifically. He has a bone to pick with how cyberpunk is portrayed in general. He fawns over Blade Runner in interviews, so he likes 'em real dirty and drab. C2077s bright palette and neon mohawks probably triggered him. Deus Ex would be more his thing. Seems like his complaint should be about Cyberpunk 2020 since it appears to me it's a relatively faithful adaptation.
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Jun 11, 2018 07:51
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No Mods No Masters posted:Here's a cool video I found via rope kid twitter where a guy compares/connects stuff in the trailer to the original sourcebook material. Cheers He says essential/essentially too much. But it's still a good vid
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Jun 11, 2018 07:53
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Gonna play this like the GTA2 sequel I never got, sorry Gibson.
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Jun 11, 2018 08:19
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I'll be happy with a Cyberpunk GTA. I'd have been happier with a Cyberpunk GTA with RPG mechanics leveling and depth. That being said, CDPR is dope and I trust them to make a good game. Looks neaterino so far.
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Jun 11, 2018 08:35
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No Mods No Masters posted:Here's a cool video I found via rope kid twitter where a guy compares/connects stuff in the trailer to the original sourcebook material. Cheers Cool I've been looking for something like this.
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Jun 11, 2018 08:48
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Yeah I don't really know anything about the setting so that was good.
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I mean, yeah, old school cyberpunk is quaint and retro these days. You either have to lean hard into the retro like this game or go for the contemporary approach, which would be Watch Dogs 2. Comrade Fakename posted:Seems weird to introduce us to a place called “Night City” mainly in the day. Still looks fantastic though. I think they did it to get all the whining about "wow an open-world RPG has daytime" out of the way right from the start. Megazver fucked around with this message at 09:39 on Jun 11, 2018 |
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Jun 11, 2018 09:21
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Megazver posted:I mean, yeah, cyberpunk is quaint and retro these days. It's either leaning hard into the retro like this or the contemporary approach, which would be Watch Dogs 2. Gibson's vision of the near future is very focused on urban decay\re purposing, everything is kind of in a rut. Think more bare brick and wiring, places where the elevator stopped working like 50 years ago, or an old abandoned mall that's now a street market. His characters are similar, they're very noir outsider nobodies who stumble into really unpleasant poo poo. It's not really surprising that he loves Bladerunner's post nuclear war dusty neon and isn't up on more flashy poo poo. I'd probably be less excited for this personally if I didn't trust Cyberpunk 2020's setting and CD Projeckt to lean in to the, well PUNK in Cyberpunk. There's no point to this poo poo without a sense of ruthless, fatalistic struggle
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Jun 11, 2018 09:58
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I thought Gibson's stuff mellowed out significantly after Neuromancer, though it has been years since I read anything of his and my memory is foggy. Less fatalistic struggles and more classic happy ends?
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Jun 11, 2018 10:03
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Not really, though some of it is less brutal than the Sprawl. Gibson's thing is he always hated the label cyberpunk, he thinks turning it into a genre undercut the entire thing, and he doesn't like when stuff just uses the aesthetics without getting what he and the other writers were trying to do. They were trying to shake out of genre conventions and got turned into a new genre convention. It's just a CGI trailer that shows nothing about the game other than 80's style cyberpunk aesthetics, so it's not like he's wrong. I'm sure there's more to it and it won't actually resemble GTA at all, but it's not like anyone knows anything about the game yet.
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Jun 11, 2018 10:09
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Grand Fromage posted:Not really, though some of it is less brutal than the Sprawl. There's going to be way more to it. It's a dark setting and this is the Witcher team. It's gonna be great man. I'm so pumped.
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Jun 11, 2018 10:18
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Oh I'm sure. I just don't think Gibson's criticism matters much, he's busy writing books and being cool and probably knew literally nothing about this before seeing that trailer. I don't think people should take it all that seriously.
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Jun 11, 2018 10:20
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The content of his comment wasn’t bad or necessarily untrue, but the framing/intent behind it comes across as catty and sniping. Anyone else plan on making a punk rock Geralt?
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Jun 11, 2018 10:25
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Grand Fromage posted:
I mean... All game footage is CGI. This looked as if it was at least in-engine.
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Jun 11, 2018 10:27
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Please rename this thread's subtitle to "The release date is right in the name" so that people can stop asking!
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Jun 11, 2018 10:27
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Saw a lot of Mike Pondsmith's style in that trailer. loving excellent. Pumped.
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Jun 11, 2018 10:30
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They literally worked with the guy who created the original Cyberpunk game in order to stay true to the genre, so his comments are just badly misinformed. Great interview about the project here: https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2017/07/12/cyberpunk-2077-mike-pondsmith-interview/
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Jun 11, 2018 10:42
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Speaking of, Pondsmith doesn’t truck with using cyberpunk aesthetic without also having what at least Pondsmith considers the root story characteristics of the genre, and he’s been advising CDPR, so I’m optimistic the game ultimately won’t be something just wearing its influences in the art design and game mechanics. edit: yeah, what Chalks said
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Jun 11, 2018 10:44
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Chalks posted:They literally worked with the guy who created the original Cyberpunk game in order to stay true to the genre, so his comments are just badly misinformed. Yeah this. It's going to be amazing. The density of the franchise and the developer. It's a density showdown. I can't wait. I am hype to the same level as seeing a naked hospital patient in The Phantom Pain.
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Jun 11, 2018 11:05
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Also before we move on from Gibson, I think it's pretty cool that Cyberpunk as a genre (and Gibson himself) exist(ed?) in the history of the setting. It's a bit on the nose having everyone going "hey I guess things are cyberpunk now, right?" but it's cute.
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Jun 11, 2018 11:15
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Comrade Fakename posted:Seems weird to introduce us to a place called “Night City” mainly in the day. Still looks fantastic though. Umm actually it's called Night City because it was founded by a guy called Night, much in the same way Quiet wears no clothes so she can breathe.
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Jun 11, 2018 11:56
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Saw the E3 vid and suddenly cared about this game. Please CDPR, everything else is poo poo
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Jun 11, 2018 12:32
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Jun 11, 2018 12:36
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Jun 11, 2018 12:37
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Oh man that dude's louvered taillights are a perfect marriage of Testarossa and 560SEC, they're incredible.
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Jun 11, 2018 12:47
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Here's hoping the car is named Roach!
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Jun 11, 2018 13:14
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Hahaha just this morning I picked up Hardwired by Walter Jon Williams to read. That trailer was loving great. Here's hoping I can roll a bald, psychotic journalist who can make people poo poo themselves to death.
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Jun 11, 2018 13:42
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Jack Trades posted:
He has a point in that the trailer seems to go for the lowest denominator as it looks like yet another ''shoot lots of stuff to get  to buy bigger guns'' type of game.
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Jun 11, 2018 13:47
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I’ll rewatch, but I don’t remember all that much shooting in the trailer.
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Subjunctive posted:I’ll rewatch, but I don’t remember all that much shooting in the trailer.
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Jun 11, 2018 13:52
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It's a tone trailer. It doesn't show poo poo other than how the game's setting should feel. Gibson has been bitching about almost literally everything cyberpunk that isn't his for years, maybe don't give his opinion much weight.
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Steve2911 posted:I mean... All game footage is CGI. This looked as if it was at least in-engine. It says “game engine footage” at the very beginning. There are two scenes in the trailer with gunfire: a single shot in the store being robbed, and a bunch in the hovership fight.
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Jun 11, 2018 13:57
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Subjunctive posted:I’ll rewatch, but I don’t remember all that much shooting in the trailer. True,but the entire tone of the trailer screams that you are going to be shooting stuff to progress a lot. I really do not expect it to be a game where you can avoid combat 90% of the time through other means, or a game where combat isnt the focus of the gameplay. But who knows, maybe CDPR surprises me.
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More interested in the melee myself. If you can't make yourself bulletproof and have Wolverine claws is it even a Cyberpunk game?
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Dark_Swordmaster posted:It's a tone trailer. It doesn't show poo poo other than how the game's setting should feel. Yea he's a grouchy old fart. Few years ago he was all "oh man loving cyberpunk, what was I thinking?" But like... it happened. We're living in it right now. It's just a bit more dreary and unstylish is all.
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Drunken Baker posted:More interested in the melee myself. Install skinweave and rippers. Or give yourself cyberarms with hydraulic rams. Augment your fingers with slice n' dice perhaps? Don't forget muscle & bone lace. Or spend a lot more and transplant your brain into a gemini full body chassis. Melee was definitely a thing in CP2020 and should reappear in spades for 2077. Brutal and nasty. Dismemberment fun for all the family. Would sir or madam care to purchase a monowhip? A spitting cobra? Cyberjaw? I'm going to totally brush over cyberpsychosis but you can bet the lady in the original trailer went nuts because of it. Lets just say you want to maximize your empathy if you want to maximize your metal. DancingShade fucked around with this message at 14:10 on Jun 11, 2018 |
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Jun 11, 2018 14:07
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I hope there's third person play so I can see the badass chrome I'll be slapping on at every opportunity.
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Glad this game is finally real and shaking my head at everybody complaining it's not dim, dark, and dank enough. Just cause the sun exists doesn't mean they've abandoned the the core themes of the genre. I'm pretty sure optimistic cyberpunk ceases to be cyberpunk. Also I am pretty sure you can customize your character so the boilerplate-looking protagonist isn't even an issue. Bad Seafood fucked around with this message at 14:29 on Jun 11, 2018 |
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