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Wolfsheim
Dec 23, 2003

"Ah," Ratz had said, at last, "the artiste."

lilbeefer posted:

So is this going to be more de:hr or more GTA? I am absolutely making GBS threads myself in excitement either way

it'll be a GTA in the streets but a Deus Ex in the sheets

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Skippy McPants
Mar 19, 2009

It'll be Deus Ex with maps big enough that you can do some driving and other GTA style poo poo without feeling too constrained.

At least, that was my understanding. The various city sectors are still discrete areas with hard loading zones between them, yes?

SniperWoreConverse
Mar 20, 2010



Gun Saliva
when v pulled that chick out of a car she looked so scared i was like "goddamn i'm never stealing cars"

No Mods No Masters
Oct 3, 2004

Insofar as it's an RPG and locked first person, it's going to play more deus ex than gta. I'm sure janky FPS RPG combat will only strengthen that impression.

If there are going to be loading screens between zones that's the first time I'm hearing it.

Sedisp
Jun 20, 2012


Its kinda wild how hyped this thread is about a game they have contradictory ideas or straight uo incorrect information about.

I have no idea how people are getting the deus ex comparison from beyond they are both rpgs with cyberpunk elements

tanglewood1420
Oct 28, 2010

The importance of this mission cannot be overemphasized

Sedisp posted:

Its kinda wild how hyped this thread is about a game they have contradictory ideas or straight uo incorrect information about.

I have no idea how people are getting the deus ex comparison from beyond they are both rpgs with cyberpunk elements

- First person action RPG game
- Build your character's skill tree along different specialist paths
- Install and upgrade transhumanist body modifications that give you special powers
- Choose your own dialogue that affects the plot
- Multiple solutions to quests, including stealth/non-lethal options
- Can wear sunglasses and a trenchcoat while shooting people in the face (not confirmed)

Sounds pretty Deus Ex-y to me?

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

Deus Ex got all of this from Cyberpunk 2020. :eng101:

Wolfsheim
Dec 23, 2003

"Ah," Ratz had said, at last, "the artiste."

Sedisp posted:

I have no idea how people are getting the deus ex comparison from beyond they are both rpgs with cyberpunk elements

Probably the cybernetic protagonist who never asked for this making hard choices with unintended consequences in a futuristic dystopia, I think

Horizon Burning
Oct 23, 2019
:discourse:

Sedisp posted:

Its kinda wild how hyped this thread is about a game they have contradictory ideas or straight uo incorrect information about.

I have no idea how people are getting the deus ex comparison from beyond they are both rpgs with cyberpunk elements

goons are - how to put this delicately - dumb as poo poo

Wolfsheim
Dec 23, 2003

"Ah," Ratz had said, at last, "the artiste."
A little bit of Deus Ex in my life
A little bit of GTA by my side
A little bit of Witcher is all I need
A little bit of Shadowrun is what I see
A little bit of Dishonored in the sun
A little bit of Bloodnet all night long
A little bit of Prey, here I am
A little bit of you makes me your man

Kazzah
Jul 15, 2011

Formerly known as
Krazyface
Hair Elf
I can't wait to use my Just Cause 3 wingsuit in this game

Wolfsheim
Dec 23, 2003

"Ah," Ratz had said, at last, "the artiste."
Excited that they're bringing back the Oblivion speechcraft minigame also

Toxic Fart Syndrome
Jul 2, 2006

*hits A-THREAD-5*

Only 3.6 Roentgoons per hour ... not great, not terrible.




...the meter only goes to 3.6...

Pork Pro

pik_d posted:

Wrong, the 970 wont even get 4fps at super low resolution probably therefor I HAVE to spend $2000 upgrading my PC, there's really no other option here.

i see you heard my conversation with the wife

Wolfsheim posted:

it'll be a GTA in the streets but a Deus Ex in the sheets

Thread title.

The marketing is pretty brilliant: "From the makers of The Witcher 3" lets everyone who played that game or heard about it know that it is a ~serious~ rpg that will have detailed quests, characters, and a compelling story. At the same time, Joe Sixpack the Gamer just sees "Keanu Reeves in future GTA!" and will either be happily surprised at the quality of the writing and quests compared to GTA (easy win for CDPR) or happy that the new dialogue system seems to mostly eschew cutscenes, allowing impatient players to just shoot through the boring parts like the psychopaths they are!

Cavauro
Jan 9, 2008

I hope you can climb anything that you can jump up high enough to grab onto like in Dying Light. There's video of V climbing ontop of a shipping crate thing but maybe that's just a situational scripted event which would ruin my life

Skippy McPants
Mar 19, 2009

Nah, most of the game will be ground level with everything above maybe a floor or two being related to set-pieces and skyboxes. You ain't gonna be free-soloing skyscrapers in this game.

No Mods No Masters
Oct 3, 2004

I, for one, will be doing parkour between flying cars

Jack Trades
Nov 30, 2010

Is there supposed to be stealth in this game? From the very first gameplay video I gotten the impression that there will be stealth but everything since has been about going full shooty bang bang only.

AirRaid
Dec 21, 2004

Nose Manual + Super Sonic Spin Attack
Shooty bang bang makes for better trailers.

They’ve said there is stealth, and other non combat options such as talking your way out of a fight.

They’ve also mentioned a no-kill run might be possible, though a no shooting at all run won’t be.

Combat Pretzel
Jun 23, 2004

No, seriously... what kurds?!

Capn Beeb posted:

It should, but there was some articles floating around how it's not. Like you can be playing a male character with feminine voice, and NPCs will refer to you as she, and vice versa.

https://www.thegamer.com/cyberpunk-2077-voice-gender-pronouns/

It's... not great if you're trans.
At some point, they have to face the reality. They're a rather tiny minority of less than 1% of the population, according to random Google results. Maybe within gamers it probably be a bit higher, because of demographics and whatever, but it won't be extraordinary. You can't expect a company, that's primarily in it for making money, to cater to the wide demands. Where does it stop? 20 different voice actors? What if none of these potential options are considered adequate? Voicing all lines five times now, because the very least him/her/xim/xer/they? So when CDPR would have done that, what about the other pronouns? Will someone still get upset and write another article about a game being in bad faith?

I mean, the writer still speaks of "limited genital options". Really? If there's an option to control package size, which was alluded there is, it surely should allow to emulate various stages of intersex. It's not likely this game will allow you to run around naked. Limited?

The other option to avoid all the current drama would have been to ignore the existence of transgendered people altogether in the game context, but then everyone would have jumped on the barricades for that.

Combat Pretzel fucked around with this message at 08:10 on Oct 17, 2020

LITERALLY MY FETISH
Nov 11, 2010


Raise Chris Coons' taxes so that we can have Medicare for All.

Combat Pretzel posted:

At some point, they have to face the reality. They're a rather tiny minority of less than 1% of the population, according to random Google results. Maybe within gamers it probably be a bit higher, because of demographics and whatever, but it won't be extraordinary. You can't expect a company, that's primarily in it for making money, to cater to the wide demands. Where does it stop? 20 different voice actors? What if none of these potential options are considered adequate? Voicing all lines five times now, because the very least him/her/xim/xer/they? So when CDPR would have done that, what about the other pronouns? Will someone still get upset and write another article about a game being in bad faith?

I mean, the writer still speaks of "limited genital options". Really? If there's an option to control package size, which was alluded there is, it surely should allow to emulate various stages of intersex. It's not likely this game will allow you to run around naked. Limited?

The other option to avoid all the current drama would have been to ignore the existence of transgendered people altogether in the game context, but then everyone would have jumped on the barricades for that.

Lmao like just have everyone call you V or they, this isn’t nearly that controversial or difficult.

OgNar
Oct 26, 2002

They tapdance not, neither do they fart

LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:

Lmao like just have everyone call you V or they, this isn’t nearly that controversial or difficult.

If it wasn't then there wouldn't be discussion about it.

Everything must be as important as it could possibly be.

Inspector Gesicht
Oct 26, 2012

500 Zeus a body.


GTA V was one of the most tedious and mistakenly self-indulgent AAA games ever made. I hope Cyberpunk cribs no influence and is only mildly tedious.

Combat Pretzel
Jun 23, 2004

No, seriously... what kurds?!

Inspector Gesicht posted:

GTA V was one of the most tedious and mistakenly self-indulgent AAA games ever made. I hope Cyberpunk cribs no influence and is only mildly tedious.
Single player was OK. The multiplayer however... How it still lasts that long, while also being insanely profitable, is just beyond me. It's a loving horrible grind.

Sure hope CD2077's coming multiplayer mode won't try to emulate that bullshit.

LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:

Lmao like just have everyone call you V or they, this isn’t nearly that controversial or difficult.
Don't underestimate Twitter.

Beeb
Jun 29, 2003

Good hunter, free us from this waking nightmare

Combat Pretzel posted:

At some point, they have to face the reality. They're a rather tiny minority of less than 1% of the population, according to random Google results. Maybe within gamers it probably be a bit higher, because of demographics and whatever, but it won't be extraordinary. You can't expect a company, that's primarily in it for making money, to cater to the wide demands. Where does it stop? 20 different voice actors? What if none of these potential options are considered adequate? Voicing all lines five times now, because the very least him/her/xim/xer/they? So when CDPR would have done that, what about the other pronouns? Will someone still get upset and write another article about a game being in bad faith?

I mean, the writer still speaks of "limited genital options". Really? If there's an option to control package size, which was alluded there is, it surely should allow to emulate various stages of intersex. It's not likely this game will allow you to run around naked. Limited?

The other option to avoid all the current drama would have been to ignore the existence of transgendered people altogether in the game context, but then everyone would have jumped on the barricades for that.

Or just make it an extra option since it's already coded in the game. I mean hell, even the upcoming calladooty has pronoun options. I'm sure it'll be easy to fix in a mod on the PC, but doing so shouldn't be necessary.

LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:

Lmao like just have everyone call you V or they, this isn’t nearly that controversial or difficult.

Pretty much, yeah.

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013

Voice training is awful and that's why I'm sure trans V got a skillsoft installed so they didn't have to deal with that poo poo. But yeah I get you.

Beeb
Jun 29, 2003

Good hunter, free us from this waking nightmare

WhiskeyWhiskers posted:

Voice training is awful and that's why I'm sure trans V got a skillsoft installed so they didn't have to deal with that poo poo. But yeah I get you.

It really is, and that's the dream for so many people. Just plug in a device and boop, you get closer to your ideal self.

This in the game isn't the end of the world but it could've been an easily avoided bummer.

nopants
May 29, 2004
deus ex owned and everyone should be subjected to it

cheesetriangles
Jan 5, 2011





What about Invisible War though?

Neltharak
Jun 7, 2013

cheesetriangles posted:

What about Invisible War though?

doesn't exist

Archer666
Dec 27, 2008

Wolfsheim posted:

it'll be a GTA in the streets but a Deus Ex in the sheets

It won't be a real Deus Ex-like unless I can put all my skill points in swimming and then having 2 places where that comes in handy.

Sedisp
Jun 20, 2012


Combat Pretzel posted:

At some point, they have to face the reality. They're a rather tiny minority of less than 1% of the population, according to random Google results. Maybe within gamers it probably be a bit higher, because of demographics and whatever, but it won't be extraordinary. You can't expect a company, that's primarily in it for making money, to cater to the wide demands. Where does it stop? 20 different voice actors? What if none of these potential options are considered adequate? Voicing all lines five times now, because the very least him/her/xim/xer/they? So when CDPR would have done that, what about the other pronouns? Will someone still get upset and write another article about a game being in bad faith?

I mean, the writer still speaks of "limited genital options". Really? If there's an option to control package size, which was alluded there is, it surely should allow to emulate various stages of intersex. It's not likely this game will allow you to run around naked. Limited?

The other option to avoid all the current drama would have been to ignore the existence of transgendered people altogether in the game context, but then everyone would have jumped on the barricades for that.

Lmao all these words to forget a solution that has existed the exact second they let you pick your characters name.

VoLaTiLe
Oct 21, 2010

He's Behind you
I'm sure there will be a mod that will address the pronoun stuff for people who care :frogbon:

Chalks
Sep 30, 2009

Capn Beeb posted:

It should, but there was some articles floating around how it's not. Like you can be playing a male character with feminine voice, and NPCs will refer to you as she, and vice versa.

https://www.thegamer.com/cyberpunk-2077-voice-gender-pronouns/

It's... not great if you're trans.

It's not about gendered npc barks which would be trivial to fix - as an English speaker it's easy to forget that gender neutrality is extremely difficult in most languages.

It's probably pretty likely that npc barks will be gender neutral in english since it's actually technically easier to do.

CottonWolf
Jul 20, 2012

Good ideas generator

Blind Rasputin posted:

What is the right way to buy it if you have a PS5? Will playing it on PS5 even without the upcoming patch they’re planning on make a noticeable difference to graphics quality? I think this is the most confusing thing for me. Buying a game in a PS5 case.. it’s pretty clear. But buying one in a PS4 case vs downloading it from the store, or recent games I already own like Ghosts of Tsushima and TLOU2.. it’s so confusing. I’m sure they’ll all run smoother or faster even before they receive some PS5 update, right?

But the PS4 version either physically or digitally and you’ll get a patch that makes it run better day one. There’ll be a bigger patch next year with more unspecified improvements.

The Gadfly
Sep 23, 2012

Chalks posted:

It's not about gendered npc barks which would be trivial to fix - as an English speaker it's easy to forget that gender neutrality is extremely difficult in most languages.

It doesn't even work well in English either, as "they" is supposed to be plural according to the English language.

Sab669
Sep 24, 2009

The Gadfly posted:

It doesn't even work well in English either, as "they" is supposed to be plural according to the English language.

It can be used as singular too, particularly when gender is unknown. Or I guess in this case, ambiguous.

CottonWolf
Jul 20, 2012

Good ideas generator

The Gadfly posted:

It doesn't even work well in English either, as "they" is supposed to be plural according to the English language.

Singular they has been a thing for a long time. It’s the default when you’re talking about someone without full information about them. Certainly since I learnt English at school in the UK in the 90s.

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013

The Gadfly posted:

It doesn't even work well in English either, as "they" is supposed to be plural according to the English language.

Singular they has been in use since the 14th century. Get with the times.

Ravenfood
Nov 4, 2011

The Gadfly posted:

It doesn't even work well in English either, as "they" is supposed to be plural according to the English language.

It's both plural and singular in English and gas been for a very long time.

E:fb.

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Xander77
Apr 6, 2009

Fuck it then. For another pit sandwich and some 'tater salad, I'll post a few more.



Cavauro posted:

I hope you can climb anything that you can jump up high enough to grab onto like in Dying Light. There's video of V climbing ontop of a shipping crate thing but maybe that's just a situational scripted event which would ruin my life
If V can in fact climb around, and at least the main quest hubs (obviously not every building) account for that, with vents, vertical space and hidden goodies...

I would go ahead and declare this the Deux Ex \ GTA crossover I never knew I needed in my life.

...

But I doubt that. That sort of flexibility in gameplay was never part of the Witcher series. gently caress, even Thronebreaker never accounted for very basic stuff you can do with your units (pause to read card descriptions if you want a bit more info on what's happening):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwhfVIObXKs

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