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Back Hack posted:Makes me wonder if we'll get see more inhuman borgs similar to Adam Smasher. Adam smasher is literally in the game and hes gross as hell. https://cyberpunk.fandom.com/wiki/Adam_Smasher Sedisp fucked around with this message at 21:07 on Oct 23, 2020 |
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Sedisp posted:Adam smasher is literally in the game and hes gross as hell. I know, that's why wondering if we're going to see things similar to him. 
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Oct 23, 2020 21:10
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Subjunctive posted:this is a pretty effective posting style in this thread, to be fair Irl lol
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Twobirds posted:I'd actually really to know - which disabled characters in media do you appreciate? Science fiction specifically, I guess, if you have them. i sorta like BJ blaskowitz in TNC. like sure your only in a chair for like half a level but than you gently caress dudes up in a super suit and than a body. i guess i don't need "someone disabled to identify with" per say. i just don't like dumb tropes like "some hot dude gets crippled in an accident like abbot and than gets the hot girl but because "HUR can't build a relationship around that" they kill him off in some token way. idk Magic criple boyfriend martyr? idk. i personally have a strong skin from various poo poo so i just roll my eyes at stuff. like sure i am happy with who i am and physical disabilities has its "perks" at points but i like playing games about people that arnt me. i can find other things i identify with other than disibility with characters. i have my issues with the disability advocacy community in general because alot of them care more about poo poo like this article and triggers and using autism as an excuse for everything and dumb twitter poo poo rather than healthcare or making ramp access either or Job availability but thats for another thread. AirRaid posted:Professor X? i am not an xmen grognard but yeah he is cool too.
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The whole humanity thing is just an awful mechanic anyway. Just a lazy way to try to limit the amount of modification you can put into yourself. What constitutes humanity loss? If my arm got sheered off in an industrial accident do I lose part of my humanity for getting a cyber arm to replace it? If not then why do I lose it when I choose to? Is the act of choosing the factor? Free choice and will is, besides empathy, the most human thing we have. What if I strengthened the current muscle tissue with cyber stuff? It's just a bad avenue to begin with because it opens up these kinds of questions and if you can't answer them then that's a problem. You can get hacked and crap, so you can offset the benefits of having machine parts by being susceptible to things that disrupt machines. Be creative with your balancing.
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Oct 23, 2020 22:29
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Recommend some cyberpunk books that aren't the sprawl trilogy, snow crash, and are good thread.
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Oct 23, 2020 22:33
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Happy Hedonist posted:Recommend some cyberpunk books that aren't the sprawl trilogy, snow crash, and are good thread. Hardwired. Quantum Thief and sequels.
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Jimbot posted:The whole humanity thing is just an awful mechanic anyway. Just a lazy way to try to limit the amount of modification you can put into yourself. What constitutes humanity loss? If my arm got sheered off in an industrial accident do I lose part of my humanity for getting a cyber arm to replace it? If not then why do I lose it when I choose to? Is the act of choosing the factor? Free choice and will is, besides empathy, the most human thing we have. What if I strengthened the current muscle tissue with cyber stuff? i think its less limbs and stuff and more like again replacing your brain and eyes with targeting poo poo or basically putting brain in a robot body. they arnt using it as a leveling system. they thought about when it was first announced but they didnt. the only humanity i think works is in vampire.
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Happy Hedonist posted:Recommend some cyberpunk books that aren't the sprawl trilogy, snow crash, and are good thread.
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Oct 23, 2020 22:44
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Happy Hedonist posted:Recommend some cyberpunk books that aren't the sprawl trilogy, snow crash, and are good thread. The Electric Church...? Its incredibly by the numbers cyberpunk, but still an enjoyable read.
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Hell yea. Grabbed The Peripheral and Hardwired. Keep 'em coming though, I can't be the only one who appreciates it.
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Oct 23, 2020 22:51
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Cavauro posted:are vehicles locked to the road in this game? based on the last night city wire video, i'd say they're not. it's not clear where you can't go, but they were driving on sidewalks, up concrete steps, over pedestrians/other cars, and offroad
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Happy Hedonist posted:Recommend some cyberpunk books that aren't the sprawl trilogy, snow crash, and are good thread. "Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep", "Ubik" and "We Can Remember It For You Wholesale" by Philip K Dick are really cool if you haven't gotten around to them yet
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Cavauro posted:are vehicles locked to the road in this game? Considering that the lore states that gravity is 10.2m/s2 instead instead of 9.8m/s2 by way of slow accumulation of speed over years into the future, but the cars are made out of the same metals as they are now, I’d say yes. The cars will be heavier and thus won’t be able to leave the road.
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Back Hack posted:I know, that's why wondering if we're going to see things similar to him. This is purely conjecture from a design standpoint. We might similar to the dudes we saw in the combat taxi but if they have a bunch of dudes running around that look like Adam Smasher it makes the design less intimidating.
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I can imagine a lot of people making themselves look like Adam Smasher, even if they can’t back it up in a fight.
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Oct 24, 2020 00:08
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Subjunctive posted:I can imagine a lot of people making themselves look like Adam Smasher, even if they can’t back it up in a fight. I think I remember seeing somewhere that Adam Smasher has only managed to get where he is over many many years of continued modifications and specialist therapy. He is well and fully in Arasakas pocket as they are probably the only reason he has not gone fully nuts
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It would be ridiculously expensive to build and maintain a full-body prosthesis like Adam Smasher or Lizzy Wizzy, that seems like a thing for only the very wealthy or connected. Like the Maelstrom all probably want to go full borg but they don't have the means to do so.
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Oh, I meant look like him superficially, not copy the function.
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I wonder if those hypercars are going to be proper mad expensive, or ten-or-so-quests expensive. Car-centric game plan: Play as a streetkid, work my way to the top and park it right next to that Kaoru guy's car then chuck him in the river. Tirranek fucked around with this message at 01:04 on Oct 24, 2020 |
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Tirranek posted:I wonder if those hypercars are going to be proper mad expensive, or ten-or-so-quests expensive. You mean for like one down payment?
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Zongerian posted:"Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep", "Ubik" and "We Can Remember It For You Wholesale" by Philip K Dick are really cool if you haven't gotten around to them yet sebmojo posted:Schismatrix. Archer666 posted:The Electric Church...? Its incredibly by the numbers cyberpunk, but still an enjoyable read. Ersatz posted:The Bridge Trilogy; The Peripheral. Subjunctive posted:Hardwired. Quantum Thief and sequels. Happy Hedonist posted:Recommend some cyberpunk books that aren't the sprawl trilogy, snow crash, and are good thread. If anyone's making a new thread for the release, they should include a list of cyberpunk (or genere adjacent) books. Maybe non-fiction too. Edit: anyway, collecting these here because some of the titles are new to me PlisskensEyePatch posted:Voice of the Whirlwind is good too, from the same author as Hardwired. Veers into weirdness, but good. Chopstick Dystopia posted:Axiomatic is a collection of short stories by Greg Egan and they're so good. Some are straight up cyberpunk but all are speculative sci-fi and cool as hell. itry fucked around with this message at 19:14 on Oct 28, 2020 |
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Subjunctive posted:I can imagine a lot of people making themselves look like Adam Smasher, even if they can’t back it up in a fight. Oh for sure but from a design perspective you don't want many people running around similar to a very alien looking bad guy.
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If you like The Electric Church there's a whole series. I tapped out after the third or fourth book, but they were enjoyable. Think it was one of those "found them at the right time" situations. Can't stress enough how good Hardwired is for scratching the CP2020/77 itch. Yes, Pondsmith basically made Hardwired The RPG, sure, but it's such good cyberpunk. Voice of the Whirlwind is good too, from the same author as Hardwired. Veers into weirdness, but good. Been rereading Virtual Light, kind of maligned Gibson but feels like it could almost be read in the same kind of ironic tone some people were suggesting for Snow Crash. Reading now after loving it as a 13 year old it comes off almost like Gibson doing a piss take of a 90s cyberpunk culture and how Hollywood presented the genre.
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Watching v go through the eye and palm replacement makes me feel real fuckin weird every time. Real weird.
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Axiomatic is a collection of short stories by Greg Egan and they're so good. Some are straight up cyberpunk but all are speculative sci-fi and cool as hell.
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SniperWoreConverse posted:Watching v go through the eye and palm replacement makes me feel real fuckin weird every time. Real weird. I assume you're referring to that scene from 2018 showcase (there might be another one; I haven't been really been following the various trailers and such, aside from looking up the 2018 video, along with some other miscellaneous ones). I was actually expecting that to be a lot more graphic, because there's a moment where the view shifts, as the cyber-eye is being connected, and what I thought was going to happen was that the ripper-doc was going to pivot it around to check it, and you'd see the connectors cords running out of V's eye-socket. I'm wondering if there's going to be an achievement for beating the game with no or minimal augmentations.
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:Since it was brought up: What, no screwdriver? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2z8tQqZG8gI&t=32s
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Back Hack posted:Makes me wonder if we'll get see more inhuman borgs similar to Adam Smasher. I wonder if we'll see more inhuman than that. There's no reason you have to stay biped if you're going full borg. You just know there'd be some like person scaled lizards or dolphins or whatever. Furries would invest a fortune in cyberware. Also you'd have weird stuff like this guy from GITS SAC:  Would be cool if the game had some humans living as R2D2s
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The most important thing you need to know about Adam smasher is that he is a huge stan for the hard rock cafe.
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PlisskensEyePatch posted:If you like The Electric Church there's a whole series. I tapped out after the third or fourth book, but they were enjoyable. Think it was one of those "found them at the right time" situations. The tone is very different from the Sprawl trilogy because in Bridge the characters are generally fuckups (no spoiler there, they're each introduced by way of loving up) but I don't think that's Gibson being ironic so much as channeling the absurdity and fragility of modern life. These books are funnier, but also more mature. They have a bit of a Brazil vibe, really. Neuromancer remains the best thing I've read from Gibson (no surprise) but The Peripheral was great and Idoru was a lot of fun as well.
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going by that wiki we might get Shaitan as an opponent of Adam Smasher: https://cyberpunk.fandom.com/wiki/Shaitan
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Inspector Gesicht posted:Are there androids and AI buddies in this setting? I'm partial to the robot-detective trope. Not really in that way I think. There are AI that have become self aware hiding in the old web though. In the recent interview with Mike Pondsmith that was linked here it seems like something that Cyberpunk Red focuses a bit more on.
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Friendly Fire posted:Not really in that way I think. There are AI that have become self aware hiding in the old web though. In the recent interview with Mike Pondsmith that was linked here it seems like something that Cyberpunk Red focuses a bit more on. I think the concept of having reached self aware AI years ago, but people being scared and they are all behind a huge firewall in a delimited, no trespass area, is pretty original. I can imagine some quest hinting that there is some AIs already hidden in this side, because the firewall isn't as good as people think.
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Turin Turambar posted:I think the concept of having reached self aware AI years ago, but people being scared and they are all behind a huge firewall in a delimited, no trespass area, is pretty original. I can imagine some quest hinting that there is some AIs already hidden in this side, because the firewall isn't as good as people think.
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Qmass posted:what is johnny silverhand ? Johnny is a man of focus, commitment, sheer will... something you know very little about.
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