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Fish Noise
Jul 25, 2012

IT'S ME, BURROWS!

IT WAS ME ALL ALONG, BURROWS!

FunkyAl posted:

what do you call yourself
"peace in emptiness" as I glance at a blank page that has been sitting open four months in a row.

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Fish Noise
Jul 25, 2012

IT'S ME, BURROWS!

IT WAS ME ALL ALONG, BURROWS!

Kanine posted:

holy poo poo check this out, the dev that produced dead cells is run as a cooperative and they even identify as anarcho-syndicalist. this makes me extremely excited
That's rad!

sebmojo posted:

or draw a dick pic if you're an art, I guess? not sure if it works the same way...?
yeah alright. :nws:

I swear I didn't time getting around to this to coincide with the thread taking a turn towards uhhh fucksmithing.

Fish Noise
Jul 25, 2012

IT'S ME, BURROWS!

IT WAS ME ALL ALONG, BURROWS!
It's when they clear out of the room so the cleaners can come in with the hazmat suits and the shop vacs and the ladders yes this one's gonna need the ladder they got the ceiling too watch your head.

Internet Kraken posted:

Though honestly at the risk of alienating myself I have to ask; do you guys care if an artist you like draws kink stuff on the side?
What do you mean, "on the side"? :v:

Fish Noise
Jul 25, 2012

IT'S ME, BURROWS!

IT WAS ME ALL ALONG, BURROWS!
RIP

...and tear?

Fish Noise
Jul 25, 2012

IT'S ME, BURROWS!

IT WAS ME ALL ALONG, BURROWS!

Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

Tumblr is kind of garbage for art anyway, what with its auto-resizing to 1280px, storing all of its images separate to the user's blog so you can't work out where an image came from with just the image URL, and not having a native option to just view an artist's own posts minus reblogs unless it is built into the theme.
Yeah to be honest I use it for multimedia shitposting of things that traditional art sites probably wouldn't allow, across of shotgun spread of increasingly absurdly specific blogs.

Speaking of which, somehow none of the recursive dickpics got flagged.

Fish Noise
Jul 25, 2012

IT'S ME, BURROWS!

IT WAS ME ALL ALONG, BURROWS!
This could be a drawing meme. Look at old filenames, don't open any, and draw what you think is inside when one catches your eye. Then compare.

Fish Noise
Jul 25, 2012

IT'S ME, BURROWS!

IT WAS ME ALL ALONG, BURROWS!

pikachode posted:

is it egotistical to address a love letter to one's own rear end
there is no difference between what is right and what is necessary

Fish Noise
Jul 25, 2012

IT'S ME, BURROWS!

IT WAS ME ALL ALONG, BURROWS!
Probably already said it before but that's rad.

pikachode posted:

every single work i produce ties directly into one of my innumerable fetishes, including this very post
let me tell you about my fetish
for telling you about my fetish

Fish Noise
Jul 25, 2012

IT'S ME, BURROWS!

IT WAS ME ALL ALONG, BURROWS!

lofi posted:

I'm kind of in the same boat - I find working on the Intuos uncomfortable, I just don't enjoy it physically, and I'm not sure if I should move away from digital or just double down and get a draw-on-screen tablet.
Important: What is the source of your discomfort?

If it's something like the hand-eye coordination disconnect, then yeah there's no question that making the jump to a screen tablet will improve your experience.

If it's a posture/ergonomics issue, consider that it's likely going to take some more doing than just going to a screen tablet. What is your desk height relative to your head height and will you have to hunch over? How much desk space do you have, will you have to rearrange things every time you switch between keyboard and tablet? Does the tablet come with its own robust mounting solution that gives it a good range of positioning heights and angles, or is the tablet VESA compatible so you can put it on a mounting arm for versatility?
I had to put mine on top of a monitor stand directly over my keyboard. The constant annoyanceg of rearranging my desk just to use it - and having to do this very gently because Wacom put their planned obsolescence in fragile connectors - and it being so low that I'd get neck pain within minutes really made me not want to ever use it. Just propping it up five inches was enough to solve both of those. Depending on what tablet screen you're looking at, it might be that simple and cheap, it might not.

Also brace yourself for driver fuckery. It's gonna happen, whether Wacom or the misc. Chinese brands that are very gradually forcing Wacom towards saner prices.

dupersaurus posted:

I've heard good about the ipad pro + apple pencil, but that could easily be above budget
There's some very good mobile solutions in the form of iPad Pro and Surface Pro. The smaller sizes and refurbs can definitely come close to budget. But, keep in mind they tend to be about sketchbook sized at best, which may or may not suit what you want to do with them.

Fish Noise
Jul 25, 2012

IT'S ME, BURROWS!

IT WAS ME ALL ALONG, BURROWS!

Fruity20 posted:

oddly...I like skeletons....I don't know why i like them.
The cheerful grins? The distinct musical style? Being explicitly magical beings that have stripped away the rotting flesh of tactical realism?
There's a lot to like about skeletons!

Fish Noise
Jul 25, 2012

IT'S ME, BURROWS!

IT WAS ME ALL ALONG, BURROWS!
Reminder https://www.patreon.com/new-creator-plans

Fish Noise
Jul 25, 2012

IT'S ME, BURROWS!

IT WAS ME ALL ALONG, BURROWS!
Where does a keyboard go? Right in front of you.
Where does a tablet monitor go? Right in front of you.
Uh oh!

I resolved this with a large sized monitor stand. Wide enough to fit the keyboard underneath and tablet on top, tall enough to type on the keyboard without bumping the shelf and use the tablet without hunching over horribly. Keeps both in usable positions without having to always rearrange things, which can be especially important if you're dealing with wacom's connectors.

If the tablet has a VESA mount, an Ergotron-style monitor arm is also a good solution.

Fish Noise
Jul 25, 2012

IT'S ME, BURROWS!

IT WAS ME ALL ALONG, BURROWS!
but is it the corrugated iron rain tank you want?

Fish Noise
Jul 25, 2012

IT'S ME, BURROWS!

IT WAS ME ALL ALONG, BURROWS!
An Intuos 3? (compare with these to confirm)

That's the line of tablets so indestructible that Wacom started introducing some real lovely planned obsolescence in Intuos 4 and beyond.

It's old enough now that compared to current offerings (not just Wacom models), the pressure levels are definitely low, the input area may be small depending on model, and the input area aspect ratio lines up with older squarer monitors rather than the current 16:9 that's most common. I'd be most concerned about drivers, last update for Intuos 3 was 2016.

Fish Noise
Jul 25, 2012

IT'S ME, BURROWS!

IT WAS ME ALL ALONG, BURROWS!

Warbird posted:

This appears to be the model being offered. They only want $20 and claim it's in excellent condition, so I'm guessing it's particularly old (or stolen).
Oh! That's... fairly recent, actually. Drivers should be current. Wacom's been doing this obnoxious model churn and product line rebanding for years, so I was thinking of their older Intuos line (high end, now Intuos Pro) rather than their current Intuos line (entry level, which would've been Bamboo or Graphire in the past).

What you're looking at here is only a generation old, I'd guess? From immediately before Chinese tablet proliferation finally forced Wacom to start pushing out significant upgrades across all lines.

For $20 that's pretty good, assuming there's nothing fucky going on.

Fruity20 posted:

closet i could find is deviantart and even then i'm wary of it's existence..
It vaguely sounds like you want a classic gallery site, and nobody's really making those any more in the current social media startup hellscape, so I'm afraid I have to say: dehumanize yourself and face to FA

Fish Noise
Jul 25, 2012

IT'S ME, BURROWS!

IT WAS ME ALL ALONG, BURROWS!
Get doodlin'. Poke around and see what programs you like - for a sampling: krita, firealpaca, drawpile are free. Mess around with pressure sensitivity settings to find what's comfortable for you so you don't get tablet claw. Figure out your workspace layout and posture.

Tape some smooth printer paper over the active area because wacom's tech works straight through that, and it provides a textured surface while not being as abrasive and ablative as wacom's own paper-simulating texture on the tablet.

Check to see if there's any driver/windows fuckery causing the included version of Painter to not work. Sometimes windows' own native tablet drivers will fight with wacom's and you have to go into services to kill it.

Fish Noise
Jul 25, 2012

IT'S ME, BURROWS!

IT WAS ME ALL ALONG, BURROWS!

readingatwork posted:

-What's a good archiving system for all of this? If this somehow lasts more than a month I don't want imgur to die and kill everyone's entries a few years down the line.
dehumanize yourself and face to FA- wait I already made this joke

There's always LP's LPix. There's already random goons using it as a general imagehost (sorta guilty), and we're not exactly a high traffic subforum here. ...I did avoid putting the recursive dickpicks there, though.

Fish Noise
Jul 25, 2012

IT'S ME, BURROWS!

IT WAS ME ALL ALONG, BURROWS!
That's still kinda word salad-y and your site link is broken

but the vague impression I've been getting is y'all are doing a collision between pro portrait photography and cosplay, and you're trying to distinguish yourselves from literally everyone else running around cons with a phone or dslr out because of the sheer accessibility of recording devices now?

Fish Noise
Jul 25, 2012

IT'S ME, BURROWS!

IT WAS ME ALL ALONG, BURROWS!
when you're done, they'll saw you into thin discs and ooh and ahh at the pretty rings that have formed

Fish Noise
Jul 25, 2012

IT'S ME, BURROWS!

IT WAS ME ALL ALONG, BURROWS!

ogresque posted:

im tired of being dead
have you considered resurrection by erection

Fish Noise
Jul 25, 2012

IT'S ME, BURROWS!

IT WAS ME ALL ALONG, BURROWS!

dupersaurus posted:

gently caress drawing!
there's three NWS art threads right here if you want to post it

Fish Noise
Jul 25, 2012

IT'S ME, BURROWS!

IT WAS ME ALL ALONG, BURROWS!
Try not to fixate on immediately achieving mechanistic perfection.

I'm looking at the post in Daily Drawings. There's a bunch of systems for drawing faces - Loomis, building from a sphere, starting from a rounded page, etc. Try them. Try them without a ruler. Try them partially - using only the most generalized proportion rules rather than every single relative scale measurement.
The proportion rules help to correct what you know. But that's only half of "draw what you see, not what you know" in the first place.
Try different things. Take a break from a subject. Draw a nearby object. Draw a geometric solid. Draw someting you've imagined. Draw something outside the window. Draw a face distorted by unusual FOV, where proportion rules do not fully apply.
Get a feel for handling your drawing instrument.

Don't bang your head against a brick wall. Back off, do something else, let it cook. Revisit it with a fresh perspective.

Fish Noise
Jul 25, 2012

IT'S ME, BURROWS!

IT WAS ME ALL ALONG, BURROWS!

syntaxrigger posted:

I am trying to understand the 'loomis head' at the moment and I wonder if I am just not good enough at drawing circles. I feel like I do need something to structure a picture of a human face around. Maybe I am just trying to hard and need to relax. Being frustrated for two nights straight is discouraging. I honestly don't know how you guys keep trying after multiple years. There is always tomorrow I guess. Today was just kind of a bad day too.
The face is one of those subjects where the conflict between what we see and what we know hits real hard. And what we know - what we all passively know - about faces, reveals itself to be a shoddy incomplete mess when we try to build something off of it. What the rigorously measured diagrams of relative facial proportions and so on are for is to replace that lovely passive knowledge with highly precise and specific active knowledge. It's not an easy process, and it's not an easy subject. Arguably not even a beginner's subject. A lot of related skills can come into play. This is not to say you should drop working on faces entirely, but perhaps alternate with developing those other skills too, if for no other reason than to avoid the brain drain of consecutively running into frustration and discouragement.

Consider: I seem to recall that a lot of Loomis' face techniques tend to be rather geometric. Well, alright. Skip the face for a day, try geometry. Circles. Shapes. Solids. Two dimensional. Three dimensional. Simple objects that might be around you. Develop line control. Develop an eye for lines and angles and simpler relative proportions and spatial relationships. Then, with these skills, try approaching the face in the abstract - not as a face, but an assemblage of connected shapes.

And you know what? It's okay to draw badly. And I don't even mean in a "for now" or "while you're still starting out" sense. If it's not what you want to do with your life, it doesn't have to be some profitable marketable skill, it can just be... a thing that you do. It should be a thing that more people do. You don't have to be perfect at it now, you don't have to be perfect at it ever.

lofi posted:

And, y'know, my kinks are just that specific I have to draw my own porn
:ssh:

fauna posted:

what about the immaculate first page of a brand-new sketchbook??
I like spiral books because they can lay flat but this means there's more rubbing going on between the cover and the first page, so I just leave the first page alone because the transferred-back-and-forth smudged up mess that occurs otherwise annoys me a whole lot.

Fish Noise
Jul 25, 2012

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IT WAS ME ALL ALONG, BURROWS!
yeah the only thing I have to add is that sculpture is hugely broad with what you make with it and what you make it from so like be aware of space and mess. not a problem if you're just messing with a big block of polymer clay, but if it gets out of control you might find yourself, say, staring down an angry deliveryman unloading 800 lbs of smooth-on for your new dildomancy etsy shop.

Fish Noise
Jul 25, 2012

IT'S ME, BURROWS!

IT WAS ME ALL ALONG, BURROWS!
ARTCon Goons, part of GDN. It's real quiet tho, so get in and get posting.

Fish Noise
Jul 25, 2012

IT'S ME, BURROWS!

IT WAS ME ALL ALONG, BURROWS!
in one life drawing class there was this guy who went around looking at what everyone else did and demanding to know "where's the dick?" from everyone who wasn't at an angle to be drawing the dick
"dude he's literally facing the opposite direction"
"but how do you he's a man if there's no dick?!"
"we're done talking."

Fish Noise
Jul 25, 2012

IT'S ME, BURROWS!

IT WAS ME ALL ALONG, BURROWS!
seemingly inevitably, we're back at recursive dickpics.

syntaxrigger posted:

I guess it takes all kinds, as the saying goes, still I am surprised someone with this personality is also interested in art enough to go to a life drawing class. I guess it could have been one for college where some frat bro got advised to take art because "Dude! Naked chicks!" or some such.
In the same class there was also this older asian lady who was incredibly shocked that there'd be naked people

meanwhile I was like "WHY IS EVERYONE GRAVITATING TOWARDS ME WITH THEIR HANGUPS"

syntaxrigger posted:

"all you need to do is draw what you see..." is a piece of advice that I feel describing in words doesn't seem to do it justice. I under stand the advice and I feel like I can do it every so often but I find it takes a non-zero amount of effort to get into that 'mode' and stay there. I assume switching back and forth gets easier with time, right?
Bingo. Takes practice, just like any other skill. Something I've recently remembered that may help you wrt to faces: try turning your subject upside-down, if possible. This creates unfamiliarity, mentally distancing you from what you know, so that it's easier to get to what you see.

in some sense, the WHERE DICK story is essentially about the conflict between what one knows and what one sees!

Fish Noise
Jul 25, 2012

IT'S ME, BURROWS!

IT WAS ME ALL ALONG, BURROWS!

fauna posted:

*does zero art*
let us return this memory to the void and find peace in emptiness

Fish Noise
Jul 25, 2012

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IT WAS ME ALL ALONG, BURROWS!
hazy from timeshifting, feeling like I'm in a state of quantum superimposition where I have simultaneously reached acceptance that the incredibly stupid events of Spy Day happened but am still stunned thinking about it, considering whether or not I should try to pull another fast one on ArtDome

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Fish Noise
Jul 25, 2012

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it was when "Something Awful" briefly peeled off to reveal "Mister Jones' Nazi Slide".

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