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dupersaurus
Aug 1, 2012

Futurism was an art movement where dudes were all 'CARS ARE COOL AND THE PAST IS FOR CHUMPS. LET'S DRAW SOME CARS.'

Sharpest Crayon posted:

Real question: are there really that many right-wing artists and creatives? Seems sort of a redundant classification.

I mean it's possible they exist and I just haven't run into them, kinda like I didn't really believe that you could get an artist without crippling mental health problems before I did a shoutout in the daily doodles thread and found out that there's at least one.

http://jonmcnaughton.com/

:911:

Couldn't remember his name. Top google result under "obama right wing artist"

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dupersaurus
Aug 1, 2012

Futurism was an art movement where dudes were all 'CARS ARE COOL AND THE PAST IS FOR CHUMPS. LET'S DRAW SOME CARS.'
It's like a mix of Jacques Louis David and Normal Rockwell, but without the awareness of what either of them stood for, with a dash of cut-rate Gilbert Stuart thrown in for fun.

dupersaurus
Aug 1, 2012

Futurism was an art movement where dudes were all 'CARS ARE COOL AND THE PAST IS FOR CHUMPS. LET'S DRAW SOME CARS.'

Al! posted:

how could u forget thomas "the painter of light" kinkaid

jfc of course, how could I be so stupid

dupersaurus
Aug 1, 2012

Futurism was an art movement where dudes were all 'CARS ARE COOL AND THE PAST IS FOR CHUMPS. LET'S DRAW SOME CARS.'

This one has some stuff going on that I can't figure out. Why are JFK and LBJ on the "dude wtf?" side (or is that just the apathetic middle), but TR is for trampling on the Constitution? Is there a strain of crazy right wing that says TR is bad? I guess he did bust the trusts...

It's a pretty fascinating compositional puzzle, though

dupersaurus
Aug 1, 2012

Futurism was an art movement where dudes were all 'CARS ARE COOL AND THE PAST IS FOR CHUMPS. LET'S DRAW SOME CARS.'

FunkyAl posted:

You got any pen recs? Whats a good solid technical pen. Anyone like nibs? I love em but cannot always give them the ritualistic care they require to live

Nibs are the best pens but they’re not convenient and take practice. I’ve heard people rave about rapidographs but I couldn’t get them to not clog immediately. My sketching bag has traditionally been faber castel felt tips but my local Michael’s started carrying a range of Pentel drawing pens from Japan (manga finally did something good!) and I’ve been enjoying them.

dupersaurus
Aug 1, 2012

Futurism was an art movement where dudes were all 'CARS ARE COOL AND THE PAST IS FOR CHUMPS. LET'S DRAW SOME CARS.'

FunkyAl posted:

How's everyone going on their quest for deeper meaning......I forgot what I meant by it, myself

I’m trying to ignore deeper meaning, it just gets in the way

dupersaurus
Aug 1, 2012

Futurism was an art movement where dudes were all 'CARS ARE COOL AND THE PAST IS FOR CHUMPS. LET'S DRAW SOME CARS.'
Do what I did and go to an art school without a portfolio requirement :shepicide:

I fortunately had the wherewithal to escape my pits, but there were a lot of people that did not.

dupersaurus
Aug 1, 2012

Futurism was an art movement where dudes were all 'CARS ARE COOL AND THE PAST IS FOR CHUMPS. LET'S DRAW SOME CARS.'
When I was at scad we definitely made fun of those weird sequential major kids

dupersaurus
Aug 1, 2012

Futurism was an art movement where dudes were all 'CARS ARE COOL AND THE PAST IS FOR CHUMPS. LET'S DRAW SOME CARS.'
I don't have to listen to music and there are times I'd prefer not to, but usually I just put on spotify and let it take me where it will (you might have to train it a little bit). That said, the Transistor (the game) soundtrack is probably my all-time favorite background album

dupersaurus
Aug 1, 2012

Futurism was an art movement where dudes were all 'CARS ARE COOL AND THE PAST IS FOR CHUMPS. LET'S DRAW SOME CARS.'
To draw an analogy, the indy game scene didn’t really exist until Steam came along and gave everyone a platform, but even then it’s a huge loving crapshoot. Any sort of indie animation is going to have a similar problem, but I kinda feel that it’s harder to indy animation than games (saying without any experience)? Netflix, Amazon, et al could be the Steam, but they seem more interested in bigger budget stuff?

dupersaurus
Aug 1, 2012

Futurism was an art movement where dudes were all 'CARS ARE COOL AND THE PAST IS FOR CHUMPS. LET'S DRAW SOME CARS.'

Al! posted:

wait so you pay them to even consider you to contribute to their business??????

It’s your business, too. I applied for a street fair and it was $30 for jurying then $200-something for the actual booth space, but any money I would have made selling stuff was all mine (and the governments). A gallery would take a cut of any sales made, but i think you’d get most of it.

dupersaurus
Aug 1, 2012

Futurism was an art movement where dudes were all 'CARS ARE COOL AND THE PAST IS FOR CHUMPS. LET'S DRAW SOME CARS.'
Oh man Bryce, the Bob Ross of modeling apps

dupersaurus
Aug 1, 2012

Futurism was an art movement where dudes were all 'CARS ARE COOL AND THE PAST IS FOR CHUMPS. LET'S DRAW SOME CARS.'

Internet Kraken posted:

I don't really get how you're supposed to add shadows before adding colour. I always design my pictures with a lightsource in mind but trying to do the shadows first is difficult to understand.

Remember the elements of art (color, line, shape, texture, space, and form) and the principles of design (harmony, balance, heirarchy, scale, emphasis, and contrast) and how you use them to create good composition. Just spitballing, shadows can be covered under at least color, shape, form, balance, emphasis, and contrast. Most of those are things you'd probably consider pretty much right from the start. They don't have to be detailed shadows (gmc9987's pics are on the more detailed side), but shadow is an important piece of composition.

dupersaurus
Aug 1, 2012

Futurism was an art movement where dudes were all 'CARS ARE COOL AND THE PAST IS FOR CHUMPS. LET'S DRAW SOME CARS.'
Anyone know if 1340art is legit? I've got some feelers from them about showing on their Instagram

dupersaurus
Aug 1, 2012

Futurism was an art movement where dudes were all 'CARS ARE COOL AND THE PAST IS FOR CHUMPS. LET'S DRAW SOME CARS.'

dreadmojo posted:

I think there is no such thing as art, there is art-feeling. We call things that are made to elicit art-feeling art, but they aren't the only source of it.

Thanks for putting into words a feeling I didn’t realize I had.

dupersaurus
Aug 1, 2012

Futurism was an art movement where dudes were all 'CARS ARE COOL AND THE PAST IS FOR CHUMPS. LET'S DRAW SOME CARS.'
#everydayisinktober

dupersaurus
Aug 1, 2012

Futurism was an art movement where dudes were all 'CARS ARE COOL AND THE PAST IS FOR CHUMPS. LET'S DRAW SOME CARS.'
I’m in the final stages of prep for my first art fair, and oh vey I’m starting to feel the pressure





I think the final total of prints is going to be around 150, and I have seriously no clue how much of that is coming back home with me.

Hive mind: how much would you pay for 8x10, 11x14, and 16x16? My initial thought for price is $20/25/30, but could I do 20/30/40?

dupersaurus
Aug 1, 2012

Futurism was an art movement where dudes were all 'CARS ARE COOL AND THE PAST IS FOR CHUMPS. LET'S DRAW SOME CARS.'
It’s the city’s big holiday craft market, kinda the spirit of an outdoor market inside. This is my first one so I’m definitely going in blind and seeing what I can learn. It’s going to be interesting...

lofi posted:

Awww yeah, look at these beauties arrived today:


I'm well pleased with how they've come out, it's like I can't appreciate my art till it's mass produced. Makes it feel more real, somehow.

Snazzy

dupersaurus
Aug 1, 2012

Futurism was an art movement where dudes were all 'CARS ARE COOL AND THE PAST IS FOR CHUMPS. LET'S DRAW SOME CARS.'
Baby's first art fair is in the books and it was surprisingly... medium? Total sales were more than I expected but less than I hoped for (about half of them to friends), but I managed to pay for all of the one-time investments and then maybe 75% of the supply costs on top of that.

But I learned a lot from watching people wander by and browse that should carry over good for next time:
  • The three pieces I thought would be popular were (although weren't the best sellers...), and it might be worth having more big hero pieces
  • I spent a lot of time agonizing over pricing, but it seemed like most of the browsers left before price became an issue. Or maybe they were sneaky about seeing the price, although I think I could have made pricing more visible. I'll probably knock the pricing down on my paintings, though.
  • I should have been quicker on offering discounts, there was one woman in particular agony over two pieces that I retrospectively regret not giving a discount. Towards the end of the last day a woman really wanted my big piece but was about to compromise on a small one, so I quickly gave her a cut to split the difference.
  • I don't need to make 20+ prints of each piece
  • (EDIT) The number of times square knew someone's email or phone to for receipts is a liiiiiitle creepy

I'm actually pretty interested to do more markets. This was targeted as a holiday shopping opportunity, so I wonder if the mindset of the shoppers were different than at one of the spring or summer shows. But now to see how good Etsy can be to me.

dupersaurus fucked around with this message at 21:48 on Nov 19, 2018

dupersaurus
Aug 1, 2012

Futurism was an art movement where dudes were all 'CARS ARE COOL AND THE PAST IS FOR CHUMPS. LET'S DRAW SOME CARS.'
Maybe? I was in a corner of the building and while the room would get full in waves, I heard that the more central spots were busier. But I don’t know if that would have mattered; even discounting my friend sales, the second day was busier even though it was half as long.

dupersaurus
Aug 1, 2012

Futurism was an art movement where dudes were all 'CARS ARE COOL AND THE PAST IS FOR CHUMPS. LET'S DRAW SOME CARS.'
It’s a great shame that DeviantArt won’t be around to be dug up by future archaeologists to create a mythos of our culture

dupersaurus
Aug 1, 2012

Futurism was an art movement where dudes were all 'CARS ARE COOL AND THE PAST IS FOR CHUMPS. LET'S DRAW SOME CARS.'
By markers do you mean water-based or fancy stuff like prismacolor?

dupersaurus
Aug 1, 2012

Futurism was an art movement where dudes were all 'CARS ARE COOL AND THE PAST IS FOR CHUMPS. LET'S DRAW SOME CARS.'

Internet Kraken posted:

I don't need or want anything fancy. Just some markers that are a level that a real artist might use when doing inkwork and not, say, the crap I used for my school projects when I was 10.

There are two ways you can go with markers and they have different endpoints so you want to know what you want out of it.

First step is probably get some faber castell or sharpies and find some paper that’s smooth and tough (printer paper is a viable option, though they do make paper meant for markers), then play around with it and see how you feel.

Felt markers will do you fine if you only want to put the colors they give you down, but if you want to do blending and gradients you’ll have to go alcohol-based like prismacolor or copic (I think the faber castell markers are supposed to be blendable but my experience hasn’t been great)

dupersaurus
Aug 1, 2012

Futurism was an art movement where dudes were all 'CARS ARE COOL AND THE PAST IS FOR CHUMPS. LET'S DRAW SOME CARS.'
Who's to even say that demons conform to our sexual dichotomy?

dupersaurus
Aug 1, 2012

Futurism was an art movement where dudes were all 'CARS ARE COOL AND THE PAST IS FOR CHUMPS. LET'S DRAW SOME CARS.'

Franchescanado posted:

From what I've noticed about myself and artist friends:

A finished product almost never reflects the initial image or idea that started the project. So even if it looks great or is better than the original idea, it's still not that idea. That frustrates some people.

The other thing I notice is that, since the artist is spending so much time working on the project, it is difficult to detach themselves from it and see how it objectively looks. It's kinda like how a parent gets surprised how big their child has grown--you see them every day, so it's hard to track the growth and changes. If you're there for all the lines and strokes, and all the mistakes, it's hard to find wonder or be impressed by yourself. There's been some drawings or paintings I thought were sub-par, only to be impressed by it a year later when I find it with fresh eyes.

plz take your rational and thoughtful examination to some place that it belongs, like GBS

dupersaurus
Aug 1, 2012

Futurism was an art movement where dudes were all 'CARS ARE COOL AND THE PAST IS FOR CHUMPS. LET'S DRAW SOME CARS.'
I read the fabulous manuscript of my soul, aka the deep, cavernous inspiration of my creative well.

it’s not very deep, like my art

dupersaurus
Aug 1, 2012

Futurism was an art movement where dudes were all 'CARS ARE COOL AND THE PAST IS FOR CHUMPS. LET'S DRAW SOME CARS.'

Sharpest Crayon posted:

My throat is clogged with Art Opinions I dare not air. Send help plz.

:justpost:

Edit: not that I ever draw digital, is procreate still the king of iOS?

dupersaurus fucked around with this message at 17:36 on Jan 19, 2019

dupersaurus
Aug 1, 2012

Futurism was an art movement where dudes were all 'CARS ARE COOL AND THE PAST IS FOR CHUMPS. LET'S DRAW SOME CARS.'

FunkyAl posted:

Did you know procreate is always recording brush strokes? Why would they do that? Like, i know to post a video online, but why else?

I mean, it's not much more intensive than saving an undo history, so why not?

dupersaurus
Aug 1, 2012

Futurism was an art movement where dudes were all 'CARS ARE COOL AND THE PAST IS FOR CHUMPS. LET'S DRAW SOME CARS.'
Purple isn't actually a color

Where "color" is defined as a single wavelength

dupersaurus
Aug 1, 2012

Futurism was an art movement where dudes were all 'CARS ARE COOL AND THE PAST IS FOR CHUMPS. LET'S DRAW SOME CARS.'

FunkyAl posted:

Machine Learning.

Skynet's going to be really good at drawing its own furry porn

dupersaurus
Aug 1, 2012

Futurism was an art movement where dudes were all 'CARS ARE COOL AND THE PAST IS FOR CHUMPS. LET'S DRAW SOME CARS.'
Accepted into my second art/craft festival, for printmaking and drawing :toot:

The lead up is longer than last time, and I have approx 99.999% of my print stock left from the last time so life should be more relaxed. But I do want to add a couple more prints (maybe another hero piece), and I've been pumping out these 6"x6" drawings real quick so hopefully I'll have a bunch of those.

dupersaurus
Aug 1, 2012

Futurism was an art movement where dudes were all 'CARS ARE COOL AND THE PAST IS FOR CHUMPS. LET'S DRAW SOME CARS.'
How can you love any other rear end if you don't first love yours?

dupersaurus
Aug 1, 2012

Futurism was an art movement where dudes were all 'CARS ARE COOL AND THE PAST IS FOR CHUMPS. LET'S DRAW SOME CARS.'

pikachode posted:

people buy them as livestock guardians or just because they're cute, and don't understand their needs! we have a big feral donkey population, and thousands more that technically aren't feral but are just not being kept in the luxury that donkeys deserve, and in fact demand

Hawaii?

dupersaurus
Aug 1, 2012

Futurism was an art movement where dudes were all 'CARS ARE COOL AND THE PAST IS FOR CHUMPS. LET'S DRAW SOME CARS.'

FunkyAl posted:

Wildlife enclosure on the African savannah, neighboring some elephants

Not even close!

dupersaurus
Aug 1, 2012

Futurism was an art movement where dudes were all 'CARS ARE COOL AND THE PAST IS FOR CHUMPS. LET'S DRAW SOME CARS.'
Straight lines and perfect curves are the oppression of Academic Art, embrace imperfection and fight the system!

dupersaurus
Aug 1, 2012

Futurism was an art movement where dudes were all 'CARS ARE COOL AND THE PAST IS FOR CHUMPS. LET'S DRAW SOME CARS.'
Gut feeling pricing question for you guys, ignoring notions of what's actually a fair price*. If you're wandering around a craft fair and a drawing catches your eye (say 6"x6" or 8"x10"), what's your on-a-whim price sweet spot? $20, $30?

* I say this since they're either super quick or byproducts of bigger pieces, like the stuff I've been posting in the daily thread lately

dupersaurus
Aug 1, 2012

Futurism was an art movement where dudes were all 'CARS ARE COOL AND THE PAST IS FOR CHUMPS. LET'S DRAW SOME CARS.'
So out of the blue I got an invitation for an art show that's starting up nearby, saying that I've already been juried in and just need to jump onboard. I have no reason to think it's not legit, but it sounds off to me. Any ideas what I could ask to judge how real it is?

dupersaurus
Aug 1, 2012

Futurism was an art movement where dudes were all 'CARS ARE COOL AND THE PAST IS FOR CHUMPS. LET'S DRAW SOME CARS.'
They do at least list the fees, it's $200 for a booth and no cut, pretty standard. My real doubt at this point is that it's at a nearby convention center, which doesn't (yet) have it on their calendar.

dupersaurus
Aug 1, 2012

Futurism was an art movement where dudes were all 'CARS ARE COOL AND THE PAST IS FOR CHUMPS. LET'S DRAW SOME CARS.'
The worst bird is the one that decided it wanted to be a bird instead of a dinosaur. After that all birds are good.

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dupersaurus
Aug 1, 2012

Futurism was an art movement where dudes were all 'CARS ARE COOL AND THE PAST IS FOR CHUMPS. LET'S DRAW SOME CARS.'
Physical media master race

I've heard good about the ipad pro + apple pencil, but that could easily be above budget

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