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all you have to do is write a software it's one software michael, what could it cost, ten dollars?
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we've built a comprehensive suite of sensors, now all we have to do is devise a system that knows what to do with the data. shouldn't take too long
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Jul 18, 2019 19:58
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qirex posted:do the first 80% of the work before you're down to 20% of your funding you get 80% of your funding for doing the first 20% of the work
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Jul 18, 2019 20:24
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FMguru posted:but the whole point of self-driving cars is that you dont have to drive them that’s called a taxi or in common parlance: Uber
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Jul 18, 2019 22:17
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it's crazy to me that all of these tech companies world renowned for only investing time in meaningful activities have invested time in self driving cars which as far as I can tell the best case benefit is you can get driven somewhere. The only difference being instead of paying some marginal rate to a person who bears the capital cost, instead you have to purchase the car, and pay the depreciation to MAYBE get to earn a 0.5% annual return on during the times you aren't using it
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Jul 18, 2019 22:20
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Vomik posted:it's crazy to me that all of these tech companies world renowned for only investing time in meaningful activities have invested time in self driving cars which as far as I can tell the best case benefit is you can get driven somewhere. yeah but it's a way of making sure less of your money goes to poor people.
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Jul 18, 2019 22:22
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Vomik posted:it's crazy to me that all of these tech companies world renowned for only investing time in meaningful activities have invested time in self driving cars which as far as I can tell the best case benefit is you can get driven somewhere. actually teslas will appreciate in value so you will get infinity annual return! this is why they dropped prices on all of them
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Jul 18, 2019 22:24
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MononcQc posted:It took me 10 years to drive 100,000 km, and that includes time when I didn't work from home. I average 1,000 to 1,500 km/year these days. Driving a $50,000 car 100,000km would probably take me more time than the car would be legal to drive or the oil availability in the post-warming wastelands, or if these do not materialize, more years than I have left to live. I've got a fantastic opportunity for you. Have you heard of the Tesla Model III? The undercarriage is a piece of fabric -- very easy to replace!
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Jul 18, 2019 22:43
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Vomik posted:it's crazy to me that all of these tech companies world renowned for only investing time in meaningful activities have invested time in self driving cars which as far as I can tell the best case benefit is you can get driven somewhere. the point of self driving cars is that you spend more time on your phone instead of wasting it driving. only Tesla is pushing this idiotic concept of having your car drive around and earn big bucks as a taxi/love hotel.
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Jul 18, 2019 22:50
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The Management posted:the point of self driving cars is that you spend more time on your phone instead of wasting it driving. the point of self driving cars is to prop up the unsustainable car-centric commuter suburbs by bribing people living in them with "you don't have to drive in traffic!"
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Jul 18, 2019 22:55
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Shipon posted:the point of self driving cars is to prop up the unsustainable car-centric commuter suburbs by bribing people living in them with "you don't have to drive in traffic!" nope.
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Jul 18, 2019 22:56
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goddamnedtwisto posted:yeah but it's a way of making sure less of your money goes to poor people. it's this
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the point of self driving cars is self driving big rigs and cargo transport, just like with pretty much every other technology all the money is in commercial applications
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the point of it is that driving a car has always been something of a chore, which is why people were already trying and failing to do it from about a century ago lol
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It's honestly just an empty hype feature in an industry starved of sensible metrics and individuality. There's a point about commercial usage but all the poo poo that's easy to automate like on site and in facility driving is already automated and has been for decades. Even test driving actual cars has been automated for decades but none of the companies involved in that have any illusions about transferring that level of autonomy to an uncontrolled environment like public roads.
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Jul 18, 2019 23:28
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For cargo transport, you really quickly run into "what about when something goes wrong" problems, too. The truck breaks down in the new Mexico desert, hours from anyone who has a stake in the company. Now what?
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:just yesterday the times put out an, "actually it's harder than we thought who could have known this?" article that says only musk thinks it's coming any time soon: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/17/business/self-driving-autonomous-cars.html?action=click&module=News&pgtype=Homepage I liked that the situations they used to demonstrate were so hard to work around involved humans breaking obvious traffic laws. Instead of, you know, the many freely available videos of autonomous cars getting hosed up by "an overpass" or "the wrong shade of white" or "traffic after a bend in the road"
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Jul 18, 2019 23:45
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theflyingorc posted:For cargo transport, you really quickly run into "what about when something goes wrong" problems, too. I really expect it to be more of a road train of a 'locomotive' driven by a human followed by autonomous trucks from depot to depot on a highway. Then short haul dudes hop in and do the difficult surface road driving.
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TK-42-1 posted:I really expect it to be more of a road train of a 'locomotive' driven by a human followed by autonomous trucks from depot to depot on a highway. Then short haul dudes hop in and do the difficult surface road driving. You just invented trains
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theflyingorc posted:You just invented trains Well yeah but theres still a lot of trucking where trains or pipelines arent.
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theflyingorc posted:For cargo transport, you really quickly run into "what about when something goes wrong" problems, too. otoh it makes hijacking and road piracy waaay easier
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TK-42-1 posted:I really expect it to be more of a road train of a 'locomotive' driven by a human followed by autonomous trucks from depot to depot on a highway. Then short haul dudes hop in and do the difficult surface road driving. why dont we just pay those people to drive the trucks the whole way for a small price, instead of paying them to wait at the hop-on points where they're doing nothing for us, truckco?
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Why does eveyone give Elton Muckz the benefit of doubt. why. "Obviously he's genius" uh because he tweets out ideas that were on Popular Science covers 30 years ago? does that make him special?
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just look at this poo poo https://www.google.com/search?&tbm=isch&q=Popular+mechanics&oq=Popular+mechanics elon musks ideas are old enough to have grandkids
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fishmech posted:why dont we just pay those people to drive the trucks the whole way for a small price, instead of paying them to wait at the hop-on points where they're doing nothing for us, truckco? because you can just not pay them to wait, they can either wait for free and get paid a paltry sum to drive the last mile or they can loving starve welcome to the gig economy this is how it works now for everyone who isn't a deece figgies computer toucher or other professional/managerial knowledge worker type
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hailthefish posted:because you can just not pay them to wait, they can either wait for free and get paid a paltry sum to drive the last mile or they can loving starve yeah so then you're not going to have cdl holders to pilot the trucks dumbass because some other company will simply pay them to drive their trucks, which they didnt have to spend an extra million on a piece to get "self driving". and that other company is now taking all your business.
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Vomik posted:it's crazy to me that all of these tech companies world renowned for only investing time in meaningful activities have invested time in self driving cars which as far as I can tell the best case benefit is you can get driven somewhere. Taxis don’t make economic sense in a lot of areas and situations which is how Uber loses money hand over fist putting taxis anywhere and everywhere.
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Jul 19, 2019 01:27
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theflyingorc posted:For cargo transport, you really quickly run into "what about when something goes wrong" problems, too. teleoperated scuttling charges
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Vomik posted:it's crazy to me that all of these tech companies world renowned for only investing time in meaningful activities have invested time in self driving cars which as far as I can tell the best case benefit is you can get driven somewhere. Throw money at twenty year olds and they only solve the sorts of problems they've encountered and understand, like: * Mom, drive me to my friend's place! * I need more ways to fail at getting laid! * Man, I want some food but I'm too stoned to go get it! * Booking a hotel online is too hard, why can't I just get filmed using some stranger's bathroom/bedroom instead? * Nobody I know uses email, I need to reinvent it but worse!
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James Baud posted:Throw money at twenty year olds and they only solve the sorts of problems they've encountered and understand, like: lazy assholes paying money to avoid doing easy things that normal adults do on their own basically makes up all of the sharing economy at this point
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Vomik posted:it's crazy to me that all of these tech companies world renowned for only investing time in meaningful activities have invested time in self driving cars which as far as I can tell the best case benefit is you can get driven somewhere. Also you're ignoring the fact that a lot of companies working in this actually don't expect people to want to own cars in the long term.
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flakeloaf posted:
you've never actually set foot in a software store, have you Lucille?
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mystes posted:"Why doesn't everyone in the world who owns a car just use Uber all the time instead." -- An actual person in the thread. woosh
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Jul 19, 2019 12:49
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Vomik posted:woosh yeah that's some pretty poor reading comprehension, i dont even know what their post is saying or what it's a response to
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Jul 19, 2019 14:39
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ol musky's gonna get some of that blood money https://www.spa.gov.sa/viewfullstory.php?lang=en&newsid=1948491#1948491
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Endless Mike posted:ol musky's gonna get some of that blood money Elon musk is built on blood money
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Captain Foo posted:Elon musk is built on blood money some classmates of mine were shocked when i explained his actual background and his "founding" of tesla.
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Endless Mike posted:ol musky's gonna get some of that blood money is missile some weird translation of rocket?
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these rockets, they could also be icbm, no?
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no, only for peaceful use, peaceful!
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