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Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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infernal machines posted:

actually, that one and the yosposter who said in 2015 that self driving cars would be on the market in the next year because the darpa grand challenge proved they already exist

lol that was the one where some of the cars just steered in a straight line because their computers leaked memory and they'd get stuck thrashing while on a deadline

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Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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FCKGW posted:

with the requirement of backup cameras necessitating large screens in all new vehicles the option of avoiding infotainment systems doesn't really exist anymore.

yeah but even then most cars don't have the infotainment system also be the only way to see the speedometer or adjust the dashboard vents or play farts from the stereo or turn on the windshield wipers or adjust the suspension height or open the back doors or…

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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like, you don't have to have driven a model 3 to know that it's got a bunch of stupid decisions designed in

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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Bulgakov posted:

before playing bad kart racing clone please insert both stolen cafeteria trays under front tires (replace after worn down below tolerances listed on service manual page number…)

lmao Tesla probably doesn’t have a service manual, just a flowchart that takes two months to traverse where half the endpoints are “lmao it’s totaled”

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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Dodoman posted:

jfc have none of these people driven in heavy rain, who the gently caress has time to take their eyes off the road to choose a wiper speed.

Of course they haven't, but let me have my incredulous moment

I drove in heavy rain last weekend, it kicked rear end because I could still drive fast enough for rain-x to work

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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Nomnom Cookie posted:

no poo poo! the wiper controls are safety critical. there's a reason why they work the same, or almost the same, on every single fuckin car and require 0 visual attention to operate. i can believe that a car giving full torque at 0 rpm is fun to drive, especially for a week or two while it's still novel, but if you want to have fun with reckless disregard for your own life we already have motorcycles and they're a lot cheaper than a tesla

yeah but have you considered that if you die in a motorcycle crash your organs might help people that didn't learn to code instead of getting burnt to ashes as a thousand vape batteries spontaneously turn the inside of your car into a blast furnace?

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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go play outside Skyler posted:

are engineers really designing things not to fix them, or is it just lazyness where 0 effort is put into "how to make it easy to change components"?

i have a mechanic friend and he says nissan is terrible for this. like if you want to change something in the clutch you have to take appart the whole car to open that one cover or something. he says it's not necessarily done on purpose, it's just bad engineering.

i've designed physical things in the past and it always took quite the effort to build it in a way that i could more easily replace parts or fix it

i'm not sure apple or samsung are putting all this glue in their phones because they specifically engineered it against being able to change parts. i feel like glue is just a cheap and easy to "design" way to hold things together

engineering is about tradeoffs and being able to choose how to design and build something for specific characteristics

for a Nissan, there’s probably come constraints about the shape of the car and the cost of building it that made it impossible for the team designing that specific model to make it easy to replace the clutch, a part that many instances of the car won’t have

for an iPhone, you can’t make one the shape and size Jony Ive wants without adhesives or compromising on reliability or performance (if the battery wiggles that’s bad, if the screen is held together with tiny screws that adds bezel size and thickness, etc)

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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Sagebrush posted:

i was once looking at old lotuses on ebay and found one where the guy said "this is a very reliable car. i would feel completely confident taking it on a 100 mile road trip"

lmao

i will never trust a jaguar electric car to not come up with some way to leak oil

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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Lord Stimperor posted:

That and the fact that there are plenty of places where modern cars don't really fit into the parking spaces anymore

that time I tried to drive an f-150 with a short bed but the 4-door cab in a city and it stuck out the front of spaces

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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Jabor posted:

if it's a question of mass you'd think america would be better at it, lol

lol

love 2 ride transit though

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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BangersInMyKnickers posted:

lol half your wheels are already busted why didn't you get 18" aftermarket wheels you loving weird

because nobody's bragged about rollin' on 18s since the 1940s

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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Combat Theory posted:

Its absolutely true though that big rims with tiny tires suck extraordinary and I will continue to make fun of and ridicule everyone who drives them.

it's hard 'cause good tires only seem to come in really low aspect ratios

like you can't get a pilot super sport with more than 45%

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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Combat Theory posted:

To be fair that's usually substantially above a 200mm tire width too so you are still left with some respectable height but yes, if the OEMs decide that the minimum wheel size is 19 what business do tire manufacturers have making any sport Pneus below that or with higher sidewalls.

i also just looked and ps4s come in 17" with 55% aspects so if i didn't sell my 17" wheels years ago that'd be an option

in conclusion

cars are bad for our cities and the environment

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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"I just don't understand how this car can lose value over time" said Reginald Murph, as his two large sons ground honey nut cheerios into the seat leather with their fists.

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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BangersInMyKnickers posted:

why are you advertising that your apartment complex will have a dumpster to dispose of trash in? they all have that, its standard

they’re really close to a fire station but have a deal where the fire trucks use a back road I guess

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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visionary

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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Aunt Beth posted:

in Soviet Musk, Tesla drives software engineers!

21st century business is just the russian reversal as a business plan instead of a joke

in america, you go to the store for ideas of what to buy

in amazon, store comes to YOU for ideas of what to SELL

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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Your 'Ot Sauce opinions are a Piece Of poo poo

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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The Management posted:

you come home and find a tesla nerd stealing your power, what do you do?

marvel at them plugging in an electric car off my high-floor balcony

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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refleks posted:

I just drove across Germany in a VW T-cross that had lane assist. I don’t know if it’s poo poo or I’m just used to driving without it but my instinct was to counter it every time it corrected.

yeah I-95 around here is concrete with grooves for drainage, and it does weird stuff with my tires & steering making the steering wobble when the grooves aren't aligned perfectly with the way the car's going, so yeah it's natural to want to counter the steering wheel doing poo poo on its own

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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Jonny 290 posted:

that poo poo's so fucky on a motorbike. we're trained to let the front wheel follow the grooves to an extent but this is of dubious value when you come across a road that they're resurfacing and they've done that grinder thing and the lines are at a 45 degree angle

a friend of mine that motorcycles spends a lot of time planning routes around extremely fucky drawbridges like this: https://goo.gl/maps/XSBELD91D77c2jJw8

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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Potato Salad posted:

Where do you think the importance of "feels good" ranks along other in specifically the mass auto market, not the auto enthusiast market? Rephrased: how important is "feels good" vs "looks good" or "is cheaper to make"

most of the us market for cars would be 100% fine in a prius that looked like either a charger, an explorer, or an f-150

so much driving is highway cruising (which the prius is fine at) or traffic (which the prius excels at)

like there's the cliche about people being scared when the engine revs up, never doing maintenance, etc. just get something that goes forwards when you hit the right pedal and mostly does everything else for you

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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lookin' like a garrison

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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vegas is so fuckin' stupid

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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theflyingorc posted:

I'm really, really struggling to understand why you wouldn't just build a conventional subway

because it's a dumb boondoggle, the total distance it has to go is under a mile, any off-the-shelf people mover (like at big airports) would work great and be less risky

like, mccarran already has some people movers that work fine, there's the monorail, and two dumbshit people movers between casinos on the strip even

dumb rear end elon musk gadgetbahn

mad about trains

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dn6ZVpJLxs

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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Cocoa Crispies posted:

because it's a dumb boondoggle, the total distance it has to go is under a mile, any off-the-shelf people mover (like at big airports) would work great and be less risky

there are train stations bigger than this entire system that elon' scompany will fail to build

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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Nfcknblvbl posted:

lets be honest here, tesla's not building any of those referral roadsters

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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Platystemon posted:

My house doesn’t eat horses, and that’s the way I like it.

horse was alright when I ate some last year but yeah I’m totally fine with them being saved for people to eat, not houses

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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gschmidl posted:

You should try donkey.

I'm a millennial, ofc I love too eat rear end

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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FMguru posted:

mods...please...i beg you...

hit report on the post and put “new thread title” in the reason field

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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Sagebrush posted:

battery maintenance is also the biggest hurdle to teslas (evs in general) being good track cars. the pack and its cooling system is designed for normal street use; if you push it hard around a track, the current draw and heat production become a major problem for cell longevity.

isn't this a thing with real cars too? like, people who like to dodge cones in their versa eventually start swapping in like brakes that heat up less and idk a bigger radiator?

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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Cybernetic Vermin posted:

it's weird how the yospos tesla thread discusses cars and automotive engineering while the grey thread discusses ai and computational questions.

i guess we are all fairly burnt out on talking about deep learning (with little in the way of facts) for the millionth time. the thread even died despite seeming like a promising source of comedy.

yeah we understand "artificial intelligence" and want nothing to do with it

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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H.P. Hovercraft posted:

louisiana is the cool place to hang out. you can find most of the cool american people there. in louisiana you can just chill and do whatever and totally have classic americana. "laissez les bons temps rouler" is the louisiana motto, for example, that's how american it is there.

laissez les mauvaises voitures brûler

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSLhLViYCx4&t=358s

this is the most cringe thing I've seen

theflyingorc posted:

Homestar was fun I don't care if it's not cool to like it anymore

anymore??

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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Lysidas posted:

mitt romney was accused of buying endorsements in the 2012 presidential race after being named best SUV by jd power and associates

#1 rooftop dog storage space in its class

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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goddamnedtwisto posted:

this is of course a sign of elon's utter genius, because now he can concentrate on selling cars in <checks website> ipswich

switches work on ethernet, you're thinking of an iprouter

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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unpacked robinhood posted:

Curious about the ergonomics.of moving a car from an app. Do you keep your finger on a button to go forward/backwards at a slow pace, plan the maneuver on the app and play the scenario ?
This sounds like you'd smash into things pretty easily if you sneeze at the wrong time

i watched a friend try to do that in a kind of cramped parking lot, and the car got totally stymied by a speed bump, so he had to shamefully get in and navigate it himself

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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CommieGIR posted:

24 Hours of Lemons is a national treasure and you take that back

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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wolrah posted:


Yeah, Texas has the highest posted speed limits in the US. 85 MPH = 137 km/h and a few other countries have 140 km/h speed limits on highways. Abu Dhabi apparently has a few roads with a 160km/h (99 MPH) limit which seems to be the highest posted speed limit in the world. Of course then there are Germany's famous unrestricted roads, as well as a few others throughout the world.

what I don't get is when someone finds out I went to germany they're always asking me about how fast I went on the autobahn

like c'mon the s-bahn and u-bahn are way better

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Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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mrmcd posted:

Also considering what most people associate with "ICE" these days it's a really unfortunate name for a German train.

I usually call the trains "the ICE that shouldn't be abolished"

FrozenVent posted:

ICE wishes it had German trains

:pwn:

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