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BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

Creamed Cormp posted:

my knowledge of 4chan history isn't perfect (and lol if anyone's is), but /pol/ is more or less the rebirth of /n/ after it was deleted for being taken over by actual legit bona fide neo-nazis during a stormfront psyop. So while you're kinda sorta correct in that a new influx of users changed the userbase (though not as much as you'd think, some boards like /tg/ are still decent and nazi-free), there's a difference between inviting new users in a controlled way and getting invaded by literals 1488-kikekiller. Also as much as Alex Jones is an idiot I wouldn't call him a nazi or neo nazi. Insane fringe lolbertarian maybe?

I just realized I typed all these words and that they sound very dumb but I'm still gonna :justpost:

edit : vvvv that's fair
i listened to alex jones on the radio before he was popular :coal:

well relatively popular anyways. he does have a consistent ideology actually but going back it has always been extreme ultra-nationalism. fear of internationalism, the foreign, etc. most people got introduced to him during the ron paul craze, which is why i think he was associated with this kind of uber-libertarianism. but the it's really just nationalism.

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BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

VikingSkull posted:

he's the political Art Bell
art bell always seemed to police his audience. i might be wrong because i was too young, but i've heard he was more jonesey early in his career and then OK CITY happened and he tamped that poo poo down to focus on "woah, what if aliens did X, Y and Z?" and if someone called in to start ranting about the zionist moneychangers, bell would immediately go *click* "and our next caller is from ypsilanti, michigan and you're on coast to coast!"

then bell retired and then bell :rip:'d so the traffic was going to go somewhere. and jones was the craziest, loudest and hardest working nut in the business so he's the one who benefited.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
my biggest beef with the social media companies is that they're like attention-grabbing slot machines with all the bells and whistles and guys like alex jones feed off that. so banning jones will not fundamentally solve the problem which is baked in to the architecture.

as far as them banning people, or whether these companies should be regulated as government utilities, i dunno. really i agree with lowtax in the interview he did a few weeks ago, in that the internet is like a series of fortified medieval villages, and you need to periodically chop off people's heads and stick them on spikes otherwise your platform will turn to poo poo.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
or maybe something like what jaron lanier talks about where social media functions more like paid model. using spotify is way easier than downloading bootleg mp3s and i don't have to worry about downloading a computer-breaking virus in the process. same with movies now that subscription services have taken over. i don't spend much time thinking about alex jones' problems and he's a small fish in the grand scheme of things. he's a really noisy forums poster and if social media is having problems with people like him it's because the social media companies foster bad value systems and their incentives are out of whack. work on fixing those problems.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

Lowtax posted:

If you guys want to talk about radio show hosts who have idiotic, repulsive guests, let's talk about Phil Hendrie! Man, his guests are so dumb and ignorant! I mean, where does he find these people!!! Am I right or what here guys
morning zoo is the best radio

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJkxBLgd5Hs

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BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

VikingSkull posted:

this would have been me not long ago but I'm pretty resigned to the fact that people are just gonna choose sides and don't even see their own hypocrisy so at least I'll get that "I told you so" sensible chuckle when they start censoring the DSA

because lol if you think the far left isn't also a corporatist target
well wake me up when the corporate overlords decide to pull the plug on DSA for no good reason because as it stands alex jones is inciting violence and sending parents of dead kids into hiding. he's a twat and he had it coming.

VikingSkull posted:

it's time to nationalize social media and treat it as a utility
that would be something you can say to appeal to socialists but i doubt that putting right-wing maniac trump appointees in charge of the algorithms of social media companies is going to work out for the left

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