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IllegallySober posted:Yo, Mr. Voltorb, do you have any abilities that help town besides being a bomb and announcing it five minutes before deadline? Unfortunately no. Getting caught up now.
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IcePhoenix posted:So then he immediately reveals it after one post questioning it? this pinged me too
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Sep 15, 2018 00:13
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Epsilon Plus posted:jack fuckin poo poo my dude! did you get an "action failed" result?
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Sep 15, 2018 00:19
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Dick Bastardly posted:did you get an "action failed" result? He said he didn't submit an action.
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Sep 15, 2018 00:20
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GenericGirlName posted:The Magikarp claim feels weird and worthless ? Like why disclose that...? maybe a scum safe-claim?
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Sep 15, 2018 00:21
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IllegallySober posted:He said he didn't submit an action. You sure about that?
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Sep 15, 2018 00:23
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Epsilon Plus posted:lmao I forgot to use my (lovely, worthless) night action, which is okay, because it's lovely and worthless
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Sep 15, 2018 00:24
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We discussed that for most of the last page or so, bro.
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Sep 15, 2018 00:24
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Ok, sorry, I misread. I thought you were saying E+ claimed that that don't have an action to submit.
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Sep 15, 2018 00:26
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Dick Bastardly posted:did you get an "action failed" result? Strangely, yes. What did you do?
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Sep 15, 2018 00:26
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Dick Bastardly posted:Ok, sorry, I misread. I thought you were saying E+ claimed that he/she didn't have an action to submit. maf edit gaaah
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Sep 15, 2018 00:26
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Epsilon Plus posted:Strangely, yes. What did you do? haha ok what is going on
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Sep 15, 2018 00:27
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Epsilon Plus posted:lmao I forgot to use my (lovely, worthless) night action, which is okay, because it's lovely and worthless you forgot to use it but then... Epsilon Plus posted:Strangely, yes. What did you do? bolded part an answer to: Dick Bastardly posted:did you get an "action failed" result? so... what's going on
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Sep 15, 2018 00:28
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My guess is that E+ is lying
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Sep 15, 2018 00:29
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I'm thinking ##vote E+ for now.
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Sep 15, 2018 00:29
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Epsilon Plus posted:Strangely, yes. What did you do? Okay, now WTF 
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Sep 15, 2018 00:30
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IllegallySober posted:Okay, now WTF scum caught lying it seems
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Sep 15, 2018 00:32
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Dick Bastardly posted:scum caught lying it seems or, maybe a redirector fired on me and forced a power usage? somehow? mafia OOP can vary from mod to mod, I haven't played in one of Yami's games before so I don't know how he handles operations
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Sep 15, 2018 00:34
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I want AA and Dancer to weigh in on E+ too. This is pretty very suspicious, but I don't know how to weigh priorities between E+ and IcePhoenix.
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Sep 15, 2018 00:38
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Epsilon Plus posted:or, maybe a redirector fired on me and forced a power usage? somehow? mafia OOP can vary from mod to mod, I haven't played in one of Yami's games before so I don't know how he handles operations I find the original claim to be a slight stretch but now re-directors can force actions? Is that a standard because I'm not sure I'm buying any of this, I'm sorry.
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Sep 15, 2018 00:38
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Dick Bastardly posted:I find the original claim to be a slight stretch but now re-directors can force actions? Is that a standard because I'm not sure I'm buying any of this, I'm sorry. Again, it all depends on how the mod would handle it. If a redirector forces the target of an ability to change, and the ability has no target, does it make sense to change the target from [null] to A Target?
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Sep 15, 2018 00:40
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Epsilon Plus posted:Again, it all depends on how the mod would handle it. If a redirector forces the target of an ability to change, and the ability has no target, does it make sense to change the target from [null] to A Target? I feel like the mod would inform you of a result at all if you didn't submit an action (even in the case of being re-directed) but this is gaming the mod and thus pointless I guess
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Sep 15, 2018 00:43
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Dick Bastardly posted:I feel like the mod wouldn't inform you of a result at all if you didn't submit an action (even in the case of being re-directed) but this is gaming the mod and thus pointless I guess IMPORTANT EDIT see bold word
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Sep 15, 2018 00:43
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IllegallySober posted:So apart from the frustration, it's simply his reaction to the light-aligned comment? Basically, yes. But I'm seriously questioning it after his claim that he got an "action failed" message.
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Sep 15, 2018 00:54
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And yet you directly asked me if I got an action failed message, something that wouldn't make sense to have happened without something causing it. I've played enough mafia to know that if I were faking, I wouldn't step into an obvious trap like that. I feel like you knew I'd get an action failed message despite not having had submitted an action. Hella sus on you, my dude.
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Sep 15, 2018 00:57
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I just finished re-reading the thread from the start. My scum reads are Solus, DB, Humalong, and Toalpaz. And definitely IS for the caught poisoner claim, who I will be voting for today unless something else major happens ##vote IcePhoenix I'll put together some cases on those five to share my knowledge and make a contribution.
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Sep 15, 2018 01:05
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Epsilon Plus posted:And yet you directly asked me if I got an action failed message, something that wouldn't make sense to have happened without something causing it. I've played enough mafia to know that if I were faking, I wouldn't step into an obvious trap like that. The reason I asked that specific question was because you said you could have been roleblocked... so you implied making an action yet having denied it.
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Sep 15, 2018 01:05
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Also ##evolve Sal for catching IS
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Sep 15, 2018 01:06
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Slamburger posted:And definitely IS for the caught poisoner claim Slamburger posted:Also ##evolve Sal for catching IS Mafia edit: should be obvious but I meant to say IP, not IllegallySober / IS
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Sep 15, 2018 01:08
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I'll admit, I did make a mistake by assuming you had made an action at all, but claiming to have been given a result despite having not submitted an action is really weird. I doubt re-director forces actions to fire either, so here we are.
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Sep 15, 2018 01:09
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Dick Bastardly posted:The reason I asked that specific question was because you said you could have been roleblocked... so you implied making an action yet having denied it. Nobody would ask that question and expect an affirmative response unless they knew one was forthcoming. ##vote Dick Bastardly I think your Voltorb claim yesterday was bullshit and you're doing some weird searching to cover for it. Hypothesis: one of your scum-bros gave you the idea to ask me about receiving a PM knowing that they successfully "redirected" me in the night. also while I'm here ##evolve Epsilon Plus I have no clue what I'll get when evolved but I assume it's something worthwhile
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Sep 15, 2018 01:14
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##evolve Sal
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Sep 15, 2018 01:14
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##evolve sal
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Sep 15, 2018 01:18
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Case on Solus: The read/defense of GGN seems awkward and weird: These are all partial quotes, so read the originals for more context: SolusLunes posted:I don't really have much of a read on GGN but holy crap you're coming across so hard as scum. SolusLunes posted:Okay yeah looking at GGN again I don't see anything particularly scummy. SolusLunes posted:I mean it's reasonable? But it's mostly been one way from Toal to GGN. I'd be more inclined to think that if they're both scum, this is just an awful bus attempt from Toal. SolusLunes posted:Man, I don't know. Also I very clearly stated that I didn't think GGN was scum, and I don't care if someone picks someone else. This just doesn't feel like a natural town-mindset progression of a read. Solus barely mentions anyone except Toal and GGN, then just mentions this right after deadline: SolusLunes posted:Oh wow I totally missed the last page where we ran a train on DB My read here is that Solus is purposely providing limited information and few reads. The reads that are provided don't feel natural. Scummy.
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Sep 15, 2018 01:18
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Epsilon Plus posted:Nobody would ask that question and expect an affirmative response unless they knew one was forthcoming. At the time I asked that question I was still under the impression that you had submitted an action because you mentioned a possible roleblock in the mix (i quoted the post that prompted this question in the question post itself) Assuming that you had made an action was not optimal of me, so I expected an answer of "yes, my action failed", however before I even read your "yes, my action failed" response IS had established that you had specifically denied making an action. If you had claimed to not have made an action and also claimed to not have received a result at all I would have believed, but I can't see any other possibility herer other than you lied. Unless I am grossly missing something obvious?
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Sep 15, 2018 01:21
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Dick Bastardly posted:At the time I asked that question I was still under the impression that you had submitted an action because you mentioned a possible roleblock in the mix (i quoted the post that prompted this question in the question post itself) excuse my terrible sentence structures please tia
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Sep 15, 2018 01:23
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Case on DB: His first reads: Dick Bastardly posted:I'm feelin Toal for the overall wierdness. A bunch of mostly town reads with two really light scum reads. Don't like them. He never really provides any followup on the Toalpaz read, but then votes then, then unvotes soon after with again no detail: Dick Bastardly posted:##vote Toalpaz Dick Bastardly posted:you know what? im an idiot Then he claims bomb with 5 min to spare. All else equal claiming bomb seems more likely a scum move than a town move. I've never had a bomb role but I don't know if I would even claim it as town and just let it play out. I would absolutely claim it as scum though. Then today he's fixated on the E+ thing, which I do agree is worth some consideration but he never once comments on IP, which seems like a much stronger night-action catch than E+s stuff. And curiously he votes to evolve Sal: Dick Bastardly posted:##evolve Sal That seems really suspect... why would you evolve Sal but not vote IP? Seems to me like he doesn't want to vote his scumbo yet. Dick, do you have a comment on this?
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Sep 15, 2018 01:30
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Slamburger posted:Case on DB: Not claiming lunch bomb is bad and wrong, I'm not going to hammer myself when 5 mins is enough time to lunch scum. For the same reason E+ is defending them self I would say that defense could equally apply to IP
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Sep 15, 2018 01:34
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to clarify, we can't rule out that IP's action wasn't messed with, so until IP comes in to have a word then I'll withhold my vote (but I would vote IP in absence of a solid defense) I do believe Sal's soft claim and see no good reason not to evolve Sal.
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It's reads town Sal to me to kind of jump the gun on a result like this imo.
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