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hifi posted:they made a tv box that doesn't have hdmi out wait really loooool
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The DVR thing only works with broadcast tv right? Because early adopter Amazon smart speaker users totally want to dvr broadcast tv.
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Sep 22, 2018 17:15
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actually... they specifically say no cable/satellite tv, it's OTA only. what in the world are they thinking
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Sep 22, 2018 17:18
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That a bunch of people use a combination of OTA antenna and Netflix/Hulu?
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Sep 22, 2018 17:21
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hifi posted:actually... they specifically say no cable/satellite tv, it's OTA only. what in the world are they thinking it sorta makes sense and i can kinda see it fitting into a niche...cord cutters who still tune into OTA for some programming. still dumb that it's a totally separate box which requires you to buy a firetv of some sort. overall not nearly as dumb as a dollar store grade microwave with an alexa speaker glued on
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Sep 22, 2018 17:25
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I don’t think that many people use ota it’s just the only way to incorporate actual tv features without having to spend infinity dollars on content licensing deals
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Sep 22, 2018 17:26
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WithoutTheFezOn posted:That a bunch of people use a combination of OTA antenna and Netflix/Hulu? If they just put a single tuner in the fire TV at no additional cost and targetted users who didn't already know they want it, they could probably get some people who have both cable and prime to cancel their cable and maybe buy some premium subscriptions with the money they saved. The people who are currently using prime plus ota tv are probably very budget minded, and people who are following these announcements are probably early adopters who only have streaming and don't care about ota tv.
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Sep 22, 2018 17:31
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mystes posted:My coworker wants the microwave for some reason. I can sort of see the point of a smart coffee maker where you set it up the night before and just tell your AI overlord to make coffee in the morning when you wake up, a coffee maker with... a timer???? the future is here guys
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Sep 22, 2018 21:21
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just bought all of these and installed them in my house. my microwave can now stream my security camera to my kitchen tablet dvr thing
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Sep 22, 2018 21:33
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Amazon echo seems like a cool thing.
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qhat posted:Amazon echo seems like a cool thing. it’s not a speaker with kinda dog poo poo audio that’s always listening, has voice commands as easy and intuitive as the git cli, and is run by wal-mart 2
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Sep 23, 2018 11:49
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walmart 2: e-commerce boogaloo
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Sep 23, 2018 11:55
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every phone already has a worthless magic ai voice. why does the echo exist
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Sep 23, 2018 16:48
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HAIL eSATA-n posted:every phone already has a worthless magic ai voice. why does the echo exist because jeff bezos personally ruined amazon’s chances to sell phones with extensive meddling and stupid deadlines
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Sep 23, 2018 16:50
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HAIL eSATA-n posted:every phone already has a worthless magic ai voice. why does the echo exist corporate panopticon op
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HAIL eSATA-n posted:every phone already has a worthless magic ai voice. why does the echo exist There may also be an element of just doing random stuff to convince investors they have some sort of vision. Voice assistants are somehow incorrectly conflated with ai and ai is hot again. Or they just have no idea what they're doing. mystes fucked around with this message at 18:08 on Sep 23, 2018 |
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Sep 23, 2018 18:05
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jeph beeshorse probably wants to be able to go "computer: mozart symphony, loud" like on star trek
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Sep 23, 2018 18:19
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i very much like the idea of a smart home but lol at letting amazon run it. double lol for google. if apple devices were non-bad and/or price competitive then maybe that’d be fine, but triple lol at contemporary apple making good products
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Sep 23, 2018 19:11
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amazon wants everyone paying for amazon prime. they’ve adopted the strategy of throwing as much poo poo as they can against the wall until something sticks and they can leverage some prime subscribers out of it
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Sep 23, 2018 19:20
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i figure amazon just wants to make a walled garden so consumers are locked into amazon services. like the amazon lock - it's a service that only works for amazon deliveries. if you can convince enough people to get one then they'll be way more likely to use amazon even if a competitor comes along, since they have the lock. and everyone getting smart stuff that interacts with alexa is the same - get a critical density for an ecosystem that locks consumers into amazon and creates a disincentive to going with a competitor
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My inner dunning-kruger agrees with the walled garden bit.
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Sep 23, 2018 20:40
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What are users actually doing with Alexa that involves Amazon's services, though?
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Sep 23, 2018 20:46
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mystes posted:What are users actually doing with Alexa that involves Amazon's services, though? literally everything it does except listening for the wake word is done on amazon servers but in particular, setting timers, converting between kitchen measures, and listening to the amazon prime music selection (hot this week: "camptown races", "she'll be comin' 'round the mountain", and "axelf.mid")
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Sep 23, 2018 20:56
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an echo or other smart speaker would be a good idea if nlp was done on the device so you could use it without letting jeffy b listen to your every utterance in his weird batcave the only good smart voice thing is the apple tv because the microphone has a physical button on the itty bitty remote, and like the only good use for that is to say hey turn off the movie lights i guess the fire tv has the same sort of remote but 1. lol and 2. the remote evidently lasts for like three months
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Sep 23, 2018 21:08
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the microwave makes sense if you think about it in the context of a lot of these services are designed to replace the tech lords’ moms. yeah you could spend a few seconds looking up how to use the microwave or they could just tell it to cook something like they would their mom.
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Achmed Jones posted:i very much like the idea of a smart home but lol at letting amazon run it. double lol for google. if apple devices were non-bad and/or price competitive then maybe that’d be fine, but triple lol at contemporary apple making good products
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mystes posted:What are users actually doing with Alexa that involves Amazon's services, though? There are so many people getting paid full time to answer that question.
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HAIL eSATA-n posted:every phone already has a worthless magic ai voice. why does the echo exist 1) because amazon wants to harvest your data so they can sell poo poo to you. like Google, they want to build an ecosystem in which you constantly interact with their products and services, giving them plenty of data that they can use to fine-tune their ads B) because one of amazon's market strategies is about making it as easy and quick to buy things as possible. enabling people's random consumerist whims and then giving them as little opportunity as possible to have second thoughts. voice-enabled devices mean you can buy poo poo from across the room. a microwave that automatically buys popcorn every time you use the "popcorn" setting means that you're not even consciously deciding to buy popcorn. the ultimate goal of an Amazon smart house is to set up a situation in which you don't even make your own buying decisions - you just surrender your credit card to Amazon and let them do your buying for you with the help of the surveillance devices stalking your every move
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Main Paineframe posted:you just surrender your credit card to Amazon and let them do your buying for you with the help of the surveillance devices stalking your every move sounds like my mother in law. now why ca'nt they make a smart version of HER???? lol..
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Main Paineframe posted:B) because one of amazon's market strategies is about making it as easy and quick to buy things as possible. enabling people's random consumerist whims and then giving them as little opportunity as possible to have second thoughts. voice-enabled devices mean you can buy poo poo from across the room. a microwave that automatically buys popcorn every time you use the "popcorn" setting means that you're not even consciously deciding to buy popcorn. the ultimate goal of an Amazon smart house is to set up a situation in which you don't even make your own buying decisions - you just surrender your credit card to Amazon and let them do your buying for you with the help of the surveillance devices stalking your every move Only 0.2% of Alexa device owners have bought two or more things using Alexa. They have sold 50 million devices, so this translates to at most 100,000 people but probably less because of people buying multiple devices. In comparison, Amazon has more than 100 million prime members.
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indigi posted:sounds like my mother in law. now why ca'nt they make a smart version of HER???? lol.. uh-oh! trouble in paradise! hahaha
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mystes posted:https://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-alexa-echo-online-shopping-sales-2018-8 those are the 100,000 people who aren't totally flat broke just wait until jeff adds the "alexa, buy xyz on bezos credit!" command
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mystes posted:https://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-alexa-echo-online-shopping-sales-2018-8 how many of those were accidental or from a child
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Main Paineframe posted:B) because one of amazon's market strategies is about making it as easy and quick to buy things as possible. enabling people's random consumerist whims and then giving them as little opportunity as possible to have second thoughts. voice-enabled devices mean you can buy poo poo from across the room. a microwave that automatically buys popcorn every time you use the "popcorn" setting means that you're not even consciously deciding to buy popcorn. the ultimate goal of an Amazon smart house is to set up a situation in which you don't even make your own buying decisions - you just surrender your credit card to Amazon and let them do your buying for you with the help of the surveillance devices stalking your every move yeah scott galloway also brought up this as amazons endgame and i agree https://www.recode.net/2017/9/14/16303784/transcript-author-nyu-professor-scott-galloway-recode-decode-four-book-google-amazon-facebook-apple posted:- Oh, yeah. It’s kind of the same thing they do and they do a great job. Now, what I think, though, the bigger prediction — and I’ve been saying this for a while and I’ve been wrong — is they’re going to want something, call it Prime Squared, where they’re basically going to use artificial intelligence, your credit card, a fulfillment network and Alexa to just start sending you stuff. We talked a little bit about this the last time.
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Alexa, send me the largest size of trash bags you got and a tank of nitrogen
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Cocoa Crispies posted:Alexa, send me the largest size of trash bags you got and a tank of nitrogen don't forget the duct tape, and godspeed
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Sep 24, 2018 20:12
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the plural of echo is echi
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poty posted:yeah scott galloway also brought up this as amazons endgame and i agree yeah i think it's been pretty clear that's the goal for amazon for a fair while now. subscription services are great for retailers, amazon's whole thing is figuring out what you're mostly likely to buy, showing it to you and making it as easy as possible to get it. it's not a big step to just cut out the middle man (your eyeballs) and let your credit card and prime subscription get on with it
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