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Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
News going for the throat

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Senor Tron
May 26, 2006


Second most marginal seat?

:fap: :fap: :fap:

hidys
May 6, 2015

"Give the boys a bit of a rev up."

Doctor Spaceman posted:

Looks like some MP has fallen afoul of *checks notes* section 44

https://twitter.com/rharris334/status/1057948707205726208

Seat of Dunkley. A notionally Labor seat under the new boundaries.

Could not be a worse byelection for the Morrison government.

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




Can they keep supply when Dunkley goes Labor in a byelection?

bowmore
Oct 6, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

NTRabbit posted:

Can they keep supply when Dunkley goes Labor in a byelection?
I don't think so?

froglet
Nov 12, 2009

You see, the best way to Stop the Boats is a massive swarm of autonomous armed dogs. Strafing a few boats will stop the rest and save many lives in the long term.

You can't make an Omelet without breaking a few eggs. Vote Greens.

NTRabbit posted:

Can they keep supply when Dunkley goes Labor in a byelection?

I don't think so? But I'm not the most well versed on these things...

hidys
May 6, 2015

"Give the boys a bit of a rev up."
Actually I’m not sure what the go is old vs new boundaries in by-elections.

Either way Labor wins that seat.

RichardA
Sep 1, 2006
.
Dinosaur Gum

hidys posted:

Seat of Dunkley. A notionally Labor seat under the new boundaries.
I thought those kinds of by election are run under the old boundaries? Fairly sure Mayo was under the old when we had one.

hidys
May 6, 2015

"Give the boys a bit of a rev up."

RichardA posted:

I thought those kinds of by election are run under the old boundaries?

That is probably correct.

I still think Labor wins the seat though.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

quote:

Dunkley MP Chris Crewther could be rubbed out by Section 44


EXCLUSIVE: The Morrison Government faces losing another MP and a nightmare by-election in its second most marginal seat in ­Victoria after a backbencher made an investment that could disqualify him from parliament.

Two weeks after the ­government lost its majority in the House of Representatives, it risks having ­Dunkley MP Chris ­Crewther rubbed out by the High Court under the ­notorious Section 44 of the Constitution, which has already seen 16 MPs booted since the 2016 election.

Chris Crewther, MP for Dunkley, which includes Frankston, Langwarrin and Mornington, is likely to face a vote in parliament to refer him to the High Court over shares he recently bought in local company Gretals Australia which specialises in developing highly innovative pharmaceuticals.
Labor has already signalled it plans to make a fresh attempt to refer Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton to the High Court over his pecuniary interest in a childcare centre.

Since the government lost its majority at the Wentworth by-election earlier this month, it no longer has the numbers in parliament to protect its MPs being referred to the court.

Mr Crewther’s investment in Gretals is at risk of falling foul of Section 44’s ban on MPs having a direct or indirect pecuniary interest in any agreement with the Public Service of the Commonwealth.

ASIC records updated this week show that Mr Crewther is one of 14 shareholders of Gretals Australia, which is currently the beneficiary of a linkage grant from the Commonwealth through the Australian Research Council with the University of Melbourne.

He holds the shares in common with his wife through their self-managed superfund.

The commercial benefits of the Commonwealth-funded research under that grant are shared between the University of Melbourne and Gretals Australia under the grant, which has another year to run.

The company has also received direct grants from the Commonwealth in recent years including $50,000 from the Global Connection Fund in 2017.

MPs can only have direct or indirect pecuniary interests in an agreement with the Public Service of the Commonwealth if they have them through “an incorporated company consisting of more than 25 persons”.

When contacted today, Mr Crewther said he was unaware of the constitution’s rule about the number of shareholders.

“I thought I would support the local economy,” he said.

He said he was also unaware of how many shareholders the company had.

If the High Court were to rule that Mr Crewther’s shareholding made him ineligible to sit in parliament, his seat would be declared vacant, reducing the government’s numbers to 74 members in the 149-seat House of Representatives.

The government’s chances of retaining Dunkley at a by-election would be bleak, with the most recent Newspoll showing Labor ahead 57 per cent to 43 per cent on two-party preferred basis.

At the 2016 election, Mr Crewther won the 51.43 per cent to 48.57 per cent.

If Mr Crewther and Mr Dutton were both to lose their seats, the government would be reduced to 73 MPs out of 148.

Faced with that prospect, the government could call an early election.


https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/v...ource=HeraldSun

Don Dongington
Sep 27, 2005

#ideasboom
College Slice
I'm going to laugh when Phelps votes with the government against a no-confidence vote citing stability and other crap, when they don't even have a parliamentary majority anymore.z

Edit: Holy poo poo, ARC grants

WHY DID THE HONOURABLE MINISTER FOR EDUCATION NOT DENY THIS ONE, MISTAH SPEAKAH

Don Dongington fucked around with this message at 12:57 on Nov 1, 2018

Jonah Galtberg
Feb 11, 2009

lmao https://www.openaustralia.org.au/debates/?id=2017-10-23.181.1

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

rofl

Don Dongington
Sep 27, 2005

#ideasboom
College Slice

ahahahaha, we don't even need the high court for this one.

He's Jacob Wohl-level turbofucked.

Rock Puncher
Jul 26, 2014
burn them all

You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting

More Government Chaos for the Chaos Gods

AgentF
May 11, 2009
Yeah but Dutton fell afoul of s44 and is fine. Why would the government refer this new guy to the High Court?

Whitlam
Aug 2, 2014

Some goons overreact. Go figure.

AgentF posted:

Yeah but Dutton fell afoul of s44 and is fine. Why would the government refer this new guy to the High Court?

Kerryn Phelps.

aejix
Sep 18, 2007

It's about finding that next group of core players we can win with in the next 6, 8, 10 years. Let's face it, it's hard for 20-, 21-, 22-year-olds to lead an NHL team. Look at the playoffs.

That quote is from fucking 2018. Fuck you Jim
Pillbug
Please for the love of christ something happen this time

Don Dongington
Sep 27, 2005

#ideasboom
College Slice
Basically having 2 MPs who're questionably ineligible to be there, when said govt no longer holds a majority takes it beyond scandalous to "actually a loving major constitutional crisis", and Phelps would be complicit if she were to vote with them to maintain their hold on government.

They'll try, but it's definitely the kind of situation where the GG would be expected to step in.

The Lord Bude
May 23, 2007

ASK ME ABOUT MY SHITTY, BOUGIE INTERIOR DECORATING ADVICE
with Phelps in, the Government no longer has the numbers to block referrals. I would expect Dutton to get referred as well. I wish this clusterfuck of a government wasn't hell bent on making us vote them out one seat at a time. Call a drat election already.

Don Dongington
Sep 27, 2005

#ideasboom
College Slice
I also want Labor to force Dutton to pay back his entire salary and entitlements bill for the entire period he was in violation of section 44, but you know shorten won't do that because :decorum:

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002

Isn't this all wishful thinking? Would Phelps really vote herself straight into another election as oppose to going 'i am here for stability and to get done what I said I would and this is just a distraction blah blah'?

drunkill
Sep 25, 2007

me @ ur posting
Fallen Rib
Glorious.


Absolutely magnificent.

This thread is too good let's extend October another few weeks.

Don Dongington
Sep 27, 2005

#ideasboom
College Slice

hambeet posted:

Isn't this all wishful thinking? Would Phelps really vote herself straight into another election as oppose to going 'i am here for stability and to get done what I said I would and this is just a distraction blah blah'?

The alternative is to prop up an illegal government, do you think that's much better?

AbortRetryFail
Jan 17, 2007

No more Mr. Nice Gaius

Can't you can bypass the bad publicity of bringing down the government by being completely blind to the situation stating you have received advice from some liberal that dutton or this other clown has done no wrong (lol), and you merely want to give him the opportunity to clear his name and put this matter to bed so we can Get On With The Job of Deploying Fair Dinkum Power

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

NTRabbit posted:

Can they keep supply when Dunkley goes Labor in a byelection?

Yes.

The crossbench is Bandt, Wilkie, Phelps, Sharkie, McGowan, and Katter (there's arguably a Nat crossbencher but lets be loving serious).

If Labor wins Dunkley they'll have 70 seats to the Coalition's 74 (I'm including the Nat).

How many of those crossbenchers would want an early election, especially one that Labor would probably win? Bandt and maybe Wilkie? The rest will provide supply and confidence for as long as they can. They have bargaining power at the moment and wouldn't want to risk upsetting their conservative electorates.

The Peccadillo
Mar 4, 2013

We Have Important Work To Do

Don Dongington posted:

The alternative is to prop up an illegal government, do you think that's much better?

That sounds fun as hell, I'd pick that one

drunkill
Sep 25, 2007

me @ ur posting
Fallen Rib
Let us spray to our heavenly father

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

Ugggh

quote:

Ms Hanson on Thursday night accused asylum seekers of a deliberate strategy to beat the system after the government commissioned public servants to collate the number of asylum seeker babies born on Nauru.

“Why would you bring more children into the world?,” she told Sky News.

“It’s because they know that they will use the children as pawns to get what they want.”

On Monday The New Daily reported one government source had complained: “If it’s such a hellhole, why procreate?”

The Morrison government subsequently asked the department to collate statistics on the number of births to asylum seekers since their arrival on Nauru.

Yesterday, The Australian revealed the findings, that “there are now only 40 children of asylum-seekers living on the island, and that 46 infants have been born to asylum seekers sent to Nauru since the former Labor government reopened the pro­cess­ing centre there in 2012″.

Refugee lawyer George Newhouse said last night the new debate about refugees was “disgusting” given some children were the result of rapes.

“It’s obscene. Sending bureaucrats to count the number of babies,” he told The New Daily.

“Some of these women are pregnant from rape. And I know there are babies born from rape. Are they also going to release the statistics on the number of terminations from women who couldn’t bear to give birth on that island?

“Part of the horror of that island is the sexual assault.

“How disgusting. The government argues the refugees are free and not prisoners are they now suggesting not allowed to have children?”

This desperation to kick their victims even more, unbelievable.

And in other rising terror news:

quote:

The risk, however, is that Mr Turnbull may also use the Q&A session to apply the blowtorch to the Morrison camp that exploited his downfall. Having already sniped and undermined the ‘new’ government, Mr Turnbull must resist the urge to completely wreck it.

If he doesn’t step away from the microphone, and instead insists on retribution, voters will relegate Mr Turnbull to the wrecker’s bin along with Mr Abbott and Mr Rudd.

Oh no we can't control him, even though he's a private citizen and isn't answerable to voters!!

ewe2 fucked around with this message at 21:47 on Nov 1, 2018

Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.
If it’s such a hellhole why procreate but Queensland instead of Nauru

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

I'll just leave this here shall I? :troll:

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002

You're just trying to summon cartoon

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"
Sammy J drops a bomb

https://www.facebook.com/sammyjcomedian/videos/325585928230398/

BBJoey
Oct 31, 2012

quote:

On Monday The New Daily reported one government source had complained: “If it’s such a hellhole, why procreate?”

This dude is 100% incel

MysticalMachineGun
Apr 5, 2005


Based on the squalid conditions would they even have access to birth control?

G-Spot Run
Jun 28, 2005
I'll make the November thread when I get time today. Internet at home went down. I do have a Vic theme idea.

You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting

EDIT: ^^^ Too late

November AusPol Thread: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3873162

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MysticalMachineGun
Apr 5, 2005

Nearly had the thread where the government went down. Good luck to the November thread!

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