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Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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Martin Random posted:

donoteat do an episode on…

you should do your own podcast

instead of posting

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Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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Martin Random posted:

shut the gently caress up, nerd

post 40000 words about it

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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lmao good joke

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:

I mean, the kind of rail you'd use withing a city wouldn't go that fast, would it? High speed rail between cities would, but in the city there would be too many stops and starts for it to be feasible, I'm guessing. Does maglev have a minimum speed or something?

I really should just be googling this but this is the thread for talking about trains so gently caress it

Oh yeah you can't get that fast in cities. Maglev doesn't have a minimum speed as far as I know.

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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The Dipshit posted:

I used to live about 100 yards from an L line in undergrad. It's not a big deal at all compared to the normal noises of a city. Pretty much didn't notice it after the first couple of months.

I stayed in the back of the "Wicker Park Inn" which is right across an alley from the blue line, and it wasn't the last tine I stayed there.

There are studies that say a lot of ambient noise is bad for you though.

Corky Romanovsky posted:

Could some of that be solved with investment in more precise rails?

E: shameful snipe,
My faithful steed:


At city speeds, would having the wheels be deep under the train help much with noise?

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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Ravendas posted:

Lived in Taipei for the better part of the decade, their subway and bus system was amazing. You could get anywhere in the city without needing a car of your own. Incredibly clean, quick, cheap, I was so happy to never have to drive anywhere. It also connected to the train system which went all around the island, so from my apartment I could walk 3min to my subway station, take a 5min ride to Taipei Main Station, walk through their underground for a bit into the Main Train Station, buy a ticket and be on my way to another city within 30 minutes usually.

That's my train story. A++ would use again.

Yeah last year I went to Tokyo for a week and only had to get in a car once (stayed out too late with friends one night and had to get a cab), and in Berlin & Leipzig a month ago I completely avoided getting in a car thanks to predictable, clean, omnipresent, and cheap public transit.

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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Phone posted:

also visit the JR museum outside of Nagoya, it rules

The Railway Museum in Saitama was excellent when I went last year, and a bit closer to Tokyo.

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xf-dFxoNir0

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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and the WMATA buses go places that trains don’t, like the Georgetown area, and even in train-served areas they usually go closer to the destination; thanks to buses I hardly got rained on going to and from the hinckley hilton a couple weekends back

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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shirts and skins posted:

It will never not be funny that BART had to go down the East Bay to reach San Jose. My Mom is from Menlo Park so I am very familiar with Atherton and Palo Alto types, and those people can get hosed (Redwood City's cool though).

Max Zorin did nothing wrong.

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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Larry Parrish posted:

it doesn't help that I'm one of those people who legitimately enjoys driving itself, and not just the jamming to music alone part

It's okay to enjoy the activity of driving while at the same time acknowledge that it's a greedy activity that harms society and the environment.

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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felch me daddy jr. posted:

Yeah, the prices could definitely be better. I was used to a monthly pass system with unlimited rides within a certain zone before moving to Japan, so it was annoying having to pay for every ride since the only monthly passes you can get are for specific stretches.That said, the Suica system (I lived in Osaka so Icoca for me) was great in terms of usability and afaik most of the relevant service providers coordinate so you can get around with just one card.

yeah except for my trip around hakone and the keisei skyline to and from NRT every train ride I took in Tokyo was on suica which I had on my phone so I didn’t have to reload it at a machine

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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Misandry Cannon posted:

no. thomas the tank engine exists in a world where trains are used against their will for mass transport. there is no sense of will or transgression to their suffering. there is no existential fluidity. there is only the propaganda-like dead smiling gaze of thomas as he tries to make trains even more subservient.

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Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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Slugnoid posted:

so its almost like one giant station with different platforms for different connections?

imagine a huckster 125 years ago trying to make a chunk of track around downtown really valuable by bribing the city into giving him exclusivity and the ability to charge a fee to the independent urban railways than want to bring passengers downtown

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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Laphroaig posted:

I would love a My Summer Car train simulator but the studio didn't make a good game previously

Because My Summer Car is made by a studio with a long and storied history?

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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yeah the US really got the short end of the stick after WWII

all the countries that lost and were poor for a while ended up with really great public transportation because nobody could afford cars

florida is extra stupid because it didn't really get any substantial population until after a/c and cars were invented and everyone was huffing some broadacres farts so aside from like three neighborhoods in miami the whole state has no density

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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*picture of a busy but well-run urban transit hub*

density's child

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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mila kunis posted:

only one streetcar line here runs on a dedicated no cars allowed track and its still slow as balls because of intersections. my friend (100% subway commute chad) gets to work faster than me (sad streetcar virgin) despite living like 3x further away from his work than i do

streetcar stops are no exaggeration a thousand times cheaper to make than subway stops, so they can stop more, which is really good for allowing more people to ride transit, and especially valuable for boosting catchment for the more expensive and therefore fewer stops for subways

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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"look, right here it says we need to put a big mulcher to grind up cars that get on the train tracks, so we need the extra bracing around the pressure vessel to support that"

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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Addamere posted:

where in the us might one wish to live if one wishes to ride trains to places within that city

good transit: nyc, chicago, Boston, dc

maybe parts of: Seattle, sf, Denver

in urban cores of other big cities you might be able to minimize car use but, like, in Miami transit is usually worse (slower, less convenient) than cars

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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Ruzihm posted:

saw this and thought of this thread



one last train ride o7

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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Ruzihm posted:

saw this and thought of this thread



Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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exmarx posted:

numtot whips

yeah it’s the thing I miss from fbook

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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net work error posted:

I saw this and needed to share it but this is the only place I can imagine like minds having a laugh.
https://www.miamitodaynews.com/2018/10/23/flying-electric-taxis-from-lilium-on-the-horizon-in-miami-dade/

gimenez is a dumbass and loving allergic to just building a loving train

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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is pepsi ok posted:

Cool, something is gonna top the Golden Glades Flyover as the dumbest solution to the Miami-Dade traffic nightmare.

Eh, this dumb rear end poo poo isn't vaporware: https://www.mdxway.com/pdf/1-MDX%20SR%20836%20Southwest%20Extension%20Fact%20Sheet.pdf

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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it bums me out when the death train to Orlando gets finished it’ll go through my hometown without stopping

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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Phone posted:

the obvious thing to do is to have separate lines for passenger and freight traffic; however, this is an impossible task in america for all of the most obvious reasons.

the obvious thing is to change scheduling to prioritize passengers, you don’t even have to eminent domain and build new track that way

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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Slugnoid posted:

ive never in my life seen a diesel train with a pantograph on top, but maybe its just not a thing where i live. :shrug:

Amtrak has some dual-mode locos that can switch between diesel and third rail: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/GE_Genesis#P32AC-DM

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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Addamere posted:

wait are unoccupied houses not taxed because they sure as gently caress have an owner who will call the cops to murder you if you just go live there without buying it from them

they’re taxed but not punitively so

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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A Russian troll farm posted:

Selling off national parks is the most socialist policy i can imagine

lmao what

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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Corky Romanovsky posted:

Just one tube, because it spits every capsule into an incinerator.

accelerates every capsule to relativistic speeds and launch them at a random VC office on sand hill road imo

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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rewatched the loop de loop and cities skylines state capitalism videos while roasting coffee, really nice way to spend time

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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uh… 'malgamated, f-federelizat… uh… hey hey, I don't know what the gently caress it means

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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donoteat posted:

all of SEPTA's power comes from limerick generating station IIRC

i have a nuclear trolley in my neighborhood

this train gets its power from the nuke plant I can see from my bedroom

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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net work error posted:

They should bring back the old school logo imo.



yeah, the buses with that style were cool too

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMNOnduYV3M

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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Moist von Lipwig posted:

You could probably halve the carbon footprint of the whole air industry if you nationalized it and got rid of redundancies, empty seats etc.

totally

there's 34 lax-jfk passenger flights today, mostly on 737s or knockoffs of, probably with an average of 150 seats each

switching those to planes with 300 seats and only having 17 flights a day wouldn't be too bad, you'd still get your hourly service (there're no departures from 12:30am to 5:30am), spend a lot less gas on the fixed costs of flying, and everyone'd be more comfortable

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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Addamere posted:

seriously the limiting factor in electric train speed is how much juice you feel like pumping into them and also the fragility of passengers or freight

nah there’re problems with the mechanics of wheels and axles and rails and poo poo that get more significant at higher speeds

the Shinkansen was a huge project (80M USD could buy a lot of labor in 1959 Japan) with a lot of research in vehicle and track construction, and since then high speed rail has been mostly incremental improvements

one important thing to remember

is that it’s really cool to ride the train

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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Corky Romanovsky posted:

Watching now.


E: jfc, dude claiming Japan had it easy, constructing shinkansen over rice fields, whereas California has to deal with mountains

lol

japan had it easy, they had much fewer awful californians

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Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

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my dumb rear end city built a new main train station near the airport a few years back but the platforms aren’t long enough for winter Amtrak trains so Amtrak continues to use their old station

https://wsvn.com/news/special-reports/off-the-rails-amtrak-station-built-near-mia-with-taxpayer-dollars-goes-unused/

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