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Martin Random
Jul 18, 2003

by FactsAreUseless
It is about motherfucking time.

Just yesterday I hollered at the four other poor bastards at the bar about mercantilism, all because they said well we gotta have capitalism because what else is there? Barter?

my opener was that we should all go to the part of town where the housing aint' great, load people up in a pickup truck, and drive them to the part of town where the mansion was great, and loving kill all of the people there and take their poo poo

who the gently caress are you

im a lawyer

what kinda lawyer says that kinda poo poo

the kind that sues landlords, cops, and bosses

by the end we had a real bond going on, I think I could get them into real hosed up frontline red guard psychopaths with enough time and booze

and thats what this podcast is all about

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Martin Random
Jul 18, 2003

by FactsAreUseless
yeah no at the bar you start out with that hosed up absurd argument, and then act all shocked when they're surprised and trying to see if you're serious, then confuse them more by going well at least i'm not a loving liberal, with acid emphasis, which WILL confuse them even more they will have no idea what your loving program is

then they tend to get off balance and like back the gently caress off and say something like whoa man yeah all that liberal conservative poo poo, I dont buy into any of it, but it's what we've got / it's whjat works / it's how it always was / any other way is worse whatever

then you say yah well im tired of opening up with a compromise let's see what the bosses will give me in hourly wages to walk us back from those pickup trucks

then they get it, or you try something else or just stop talking to them

they dont know it but they're confused because their brain is going, wait, who wants to do an obama jihad on the rich but also loving hates liberals what is this unnamed thing

it'll bug them

it works like a ffucking charm, and it really is the zeit of our geist or whatever, the ticket to victory and all that

Martin Random has issued a correction as of 22:19 on Oct 5, 2018

Martin Random
Jul 18, 2003

by FactsAreUseless

Grimoire posted:

2nded. This also works for getting dates fyi, so two birds one stone

so we murder these birds and they bring us the women, or the women go to the dead birds

Martin Random
Jul 18, 2003

by FactsAreUseless

cargo cult posted:

hm yeah let me hang out with drunken white truckers and preach to them about socialism and definitely not get my head kicked in

not on a ticket of gently caress the rich / gently caress the liberals you dont

Martin Random
Jul 18, 2003

by FactsAreUseless

cargo cult posted:

sincerely racist people

you raise a troubling dichotomy can I be the not sincerely racist

no but most bar working stiffs can't wait to inform you about the One True Trick they've got to Explaining What it Really All Is and then you just have to immediately find a way to agree with what they say or some truth inside it, and then build a bridge between how their viewpoint is right but also derived from the larger picture of labor ethics and struggle, and the only reason they're ever wrong is because something out there much bigger is wronger or evil and tricking them even though they're right to think like that and its that things fault for any way they might be wrong, and then that's all it takes to redirect that energy into blaming/hating/annihilating that thing which is responsible for that weird feeling of wrongness they have that gave them the need to explain it all away with One True Trick in the first place.

donoteat you know that if you rip off the ideas here for your podcast and package it in a way where people give you a whole dollar just to propagate our propaganda you are doing gods work right

ive got some insights into the inner workings of the white house staffing system chronicled here and its all totally true and complete fact

more true than the history books

thats what I traffic in exclusively, enduring, immutable, unquestionable truth

Martin Random has issued a correction as of 16:23 on Oct 6, 2018

Martin Random
Jul 18, 2003

by FactsAreUseless
You must adopt the basic assumption that the working person and the material conditions under which they labor is the fountainhead source of truth, not theory, our academic abstraction of that; and that it's our job to find a way from that real experienced truth to the bourgeois translation/explanation of that predicament/truth of made up words. Converting actual experience to the realm of self-consistent made-up lexicography allows us to examine these experiences with the tools of abstraction and to form theories. After you have your abstract theories, and you find they have a narrative power which consistently translates a working experience to your theoretical explanation with fidelity, you bring those words and conclusions them back to the workers, the real truth, the bar.

You don't do it using the language of bourgeois theory, you articulate the phenomenon described in the abstract by the theory with the worker's words derived from their material conditions that they made up themselves. Sometimes theory tells us that the language of the working class is wrong or racist, and it needs to be corrected. That's talking down to working people, telling them what they're *really* experiencing in inscrutable language as some kind of power abstraction, and that their take is wrong. No.

You must articulate it in a way that assumes the native terms and experiences of the guys at the bar are the light from which your theory casts a shadow. The primal, previous to language, actual concrete experience of the worker is the correct foutainhead from which your theories derive, from which your entire language of abstraction is subordinate and designed to explain, centralize, and elevate as the truth. It is never wrong, and it can only be failed by the explanatory power of our theories and abstractions. Marxism is a bourgeoise derivation from that bedrock, an internally consistent system of language and ontology which arises as an abstracted bourgeois description of the material conditions of the workers. Your job is to manipulate these marxist abstractions, derive a theory of explanation not visible without these tools of abstraction, and translate it back to how it impacts the concrete aspects of the worker's experience, to bring it to them in a way that's legible and cognizable within the language and culture they've developed out of their material conditions. If you can do that, then you are a winning communist/activist.

The material conditions of the workers are the truth. The communist theory is a bourgeois abstractions of that truth. It can never be directly applied and its determinations are only really internally relevant within that system of explanation. It is that system of explanation that helps guide us marxist academics in finding truths within that system that carry over to and translate to powerful truths which describe the world of the worker's material conditions using the language that evolves from that world.

Thats a lot of words isnt it? I sound like Prester Jane, don't I? That's how you guys sound to workers, a lot of the time.

Just realize that the worker is always right and our pencil necked explanation of the world in terms of the labor theory of value is a shadow of that truth, even if internally consistent, or "less racist," or "more objectively accurate," or whatever nonsense hand wavey poo poo we use to wave off the workers if they ever try to write books. Remember, workers make everything and they will punch us like nerds, and stack the bosses up like cordwood, if we're wrong and they're conscious. Our theory may be perfectly explanatory and its prescriptions correct for optimizing time value of money or deconstructing colonialism or *whatever* made-up metric. But it is always a subordinate derivation of the thing we're trying to use it to explain, and the soil out of which everything productive or creative within this human species springs, if anything at all: the material conditions of the workers. Always.

Martin Random has issued a correction as of 17:36 on Oct 6, 2018

Martin Random
Jul 18, 2003

by FactsAreUseless
donoteat do an episode on The Sixth Sense and all the hosed up poo poo that kid would probably see in a walk through philedelphia, because that kid isn't looking at architecture and street plans like most tourists and skyline city planners; he's looking at (and with special eyes is capable of seeing) the living human element in the past of these cities which we can't anymore

thats your podcast you're the the sixth sense kid but instead of dead people walking around you look at city planning documents and can see the dead people, an overlay of ghosts who lived and worked there in the past. You have the dimension of time.

all we ever see is dead sea coral colonies of architecture, and all we can ever do is wonder: when it was formed by the living element that defined this structure which is now gone, has only left a negative impression into the clay of the earth to signify its passing, what was that living element like? did this bellhouse hold founding fathers, slaves, "witches," tunnels in which chinese immigrants moved about town after sundown, a hidden jewish temple, or a secret orgy room

And thus naturally you should do ghosts because its halloween month

Martin Random has issued a correction as of 19:04 on Oct 6, 2018

Martin Random
Jul 18, 2003

by FactsAreUseless
Actually do a wrap up sixth sense episode where all the ghosts from the previous episodes in a huge insane crossover mash up that only die hard fans will understand, Franklin's infinity war

Martin Random
Jul 18, 2003

by FactsAreUseless

Hostess Snack Cake posted:

so what kind of drink do you want with that?

that block of text was a literal trap for the lanyards in this thread who think talking to people at a bar will get them punched because the proles are all unthinking animals awaiting enlightenment and also they must use words like intersectionality or time value of money or whatever dork poo poo they feel is necessary

see how i say the same thing way easier using vernacular in the post before that one?

Martin Random
Jul 18, 2003

by FactsAreUseless

Hostess Snack Cake posted:

alright so a diet coke

shut the gently caress up, nerd

Martin Random
Jul 18, 2003

by FactsAreUseless
hey dipshits, you killed the thread because you're dipshits.

There's a new episode up.

Martin Random
Jul 18, 2003

by FactsAreUseless
I wanted to make CocoaKrispies look.

Martin Random
Jul 18, 2003

by FactsAreUseless

donoteat posted:

it's because the computer model that underlies sim city, and, with additions, almost all future city simulators, came from a 1969 book/paper called Urban Dynamics which attempted to describe a computer model for simulating cities useful to planners with the hardware of the day --obviously written with the planning principles of its time

can't find a copy for under $300 or something like that, otherwise I'd make an episode about it

started editing killdozer btw... sorry this is taking so long

In law school I did a whole semester on euclidean zoning, takings, and all kinds of other famous historical cases and examples, like Penn Station.

Somehow they never talked about stuff like Union Carbide in Bhopal but 30,000 dead within 5 minutes a p good argument for land use management of some sort

Martin Random
Jul 18, 2003

by FactsAreUseless
I'm leaving my cock outside on the porch until your video is posted and it's almost halloween and I can't get arrested again

choose wisely,

your n3m3sis

Martin Random
Jul 18, 2003

by FactsAreUseless
I vote that you make this patrons only post public and don't feel so bad about not earning that dollar, you earned that dollar

Martin Random
Jul 18, 2003

by FactsAreUseless
here guys

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cl3B_FTDKD0

Martin Random
Jul 18, 2003

by FactsAreUseless

donoteat posted:

SCUM, FREEZEBAG!


REDACTED


just consider giving me the dollar, lol

(i said it'd be easy to pirate)

BAN THIS FILTH

Martin Random
Jul 18, 2003

by FactsAreUseless
I just upped my monthly contribution to $10 as soon as I heard about your blue mood, donoteat. You are impressive, loved, and if you feel blue again, send me a message about what kind of stupid bullshit your brain is telling you that is wrong.

Martin Random
Jul 18, 2003

by FactsAreUseless
donoteat, I think you found your "thing." And people love it. And it does good. And it is good praxis.

Good job. You deserve it.

This isn't a job, you're an artisan, and you have no employer to please or arbitrarily find fault. This is the closest our society offers to "self actualization." You have to rethink of remunerative work as play, unfettered vistas for your free expression. Yeah, you're getting money from us, but we are not your boss. We're paying you to be you, because we like that. We like the way you think about things, and we like the special view of the world you give us.

If your mind is playing tricks on you, that your work product is not good enough, that it needs to be destroyed and rewritten for publication, that we expect anything other than your free, playful mind, remember that it's lying to you and you are doing your "job" by taking excellent care of yourself. After that, taste the world, think about it, enjoy it. Then take a nap. Only after all of that personal care and enrichment should you concern yourself with the small, small portion of your overall job that involves content production.

When you pay for a musician's talent, you pay for the time that they are playing, the cost of the instrument, everything they invested in obtaining that skill, and whatever else is necessary to keep their body and soul together if not paying their rent. Only a very tiny fraction of their remunerated time is actually spent performing.

If we want to reduce this patronage exchange to have the features of a job, then think of yourself as a musician. The reading, musing, exploring, and play, along with your room and board, that constitutes the bulk of what we pay you for. The content creation is that brief moment you spend performing, and showing us yourself fully, not like a factory worker, but like a musician would.

We want the full package.

And nudes for $10 a month or more

Martin Random
Jul 18, 2003

by FactsAreUseless

Larry Parrish posted:

Can you stop posting like an insane person. Thanks and god bless.

I'm really sorry I took a T break and then started smoking weed again and my posting has been excessive and insane. I'm sorry. I'll stop posting.

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Martin Random
Jul 18, 2003

by FactsAreUseless

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