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Binary Logic
Dec 28, 2000

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Are they still in high school, in some scenes Betty looks mid-20s.

Mameluke posted:

It's unrealistic for Cheryl to have worn a bra at her pool party, upstate New York is already a bit nippy by the end of August :colbert:

Archie admitted his guilt in the courtroom and got a really light sentence for killing someone. What is momlawyer going to base her appeal on?!

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Binary Logic
Dec 28, 2000

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SilentChaz posted:

They already used Shankshaw as the name of the adult prison in previous seasons. :v:

Archie is in the Leopold and Loeb Juvenile Penitentiary! They were 2 young wealthy kids who decided to kidnap and murder a 14-year old neighbour because one of them wanted to know what it's like to kill someone. They were the inspiration for the book and movie In Cold Blood .

This show is crazy.

Archie said he was guilty, under oath in front of judge, jury and packed courthouse, but Veronica talks and acts likes he's away at camp for a few weeks and will be back in school soon ?!
Then she visits him in prison and the first words out of his mouth are lies.

radlum posted:

Is Archie gonna join a prison fight club? I thought that's what they were hinting at with the Warden looking at him as he fought the guards.

Yeah no one talked to Mad Dog, he's not part of any of the prison gangs, so he couldn't have been much of an informant if that's what Archie's been tapped for.

Binary Logic
Dec 28, 2000

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The warden and guards deliberately gave that book to Arch to remiind him, "You can pick your friends, and you can pick your nose, but you can't pick your opponent in the Leopold and Loeb juvenile detention centre's underground Fight Club."

Rhyno posted:

Ethel is the worst.
Archie has the worst impulse control. And he makes the worst snap decisions. He could have traded that bottle of booze for another pair of sneakers.

Can someone remind me about his reasons for claiming to be guilty of murder in court?
Did he think prison would be easier than being under house arrest and having another trial?!
And he already said he did the murder so planning and leading a prison break IMO would be counter-productive to whatever plan he had going in to the detention centre.

If he tries to escape and fails, he could be mad-dogged. If he tries to escape and succeeds, he's a fugitive. Even if the murder is eventually pinned on someone else he'd still go back to prison for breaking out.

Binary Logic
Dec 28, 2000

Fun Shoe

cant cook creole bream posted:

So long Joachim. You were kinda there sometimes.
Every G&G campaign includes NPCs.


quote:

Originally posted by Binary Logic on Oct 27, 2018 06:28
Archie has the worst impulse control. And he makes the worst snap decisions. He could have traded that bottle of booze for another pair of sneakers.
So Archie
1. Admitted his guilt in court so he'd end up in prison 'to protect his friends and family'
2. Broke out of prison to find the real killers
3. Now that he's been cleared of the crime, has decided to disappear 'to protect his friends and family'
:derp:
4. :wtf: Maybe what's really going on is that Archiekins wants to split up with Veronica but is trying to avoid the break-up confrontation so these are his escalating attempts to ghost her.

esperterra posted:

Hermione Lodge's desktop is triggering me.

I think the post-it note shows the mayor's password.

Binary Logic
Dec 28, 2000

Fun Shoe

ruddiger posted:

Gonna need a gif of Archie eye loving the farm girl while tossing a couple of quick glances at Jughead.

For a minute I thought this was going to turn into Red Shoe Diaries (is that reference too old or obscure?)


Archie says of the farm, "There's something about this place that makes me feel at home". He didn't grow up on a farm, his father's always been in construction and he's always lived in Riverdale?! What a bizarre thing to say.

Another crazy part of the show was Jug wandering through town and there's only 1 old woman there and it's conveniently Old Mrs. Exposition. Jug walks up with no introduction and asks her what some graffiti means and she launches into a complete explanation of what's been going on, the symbols, the drugs, etc etc. And she doesn't move at all.
She is exactly the sort of NPC cutscene you'd get in a game of G&G Online. "You've come to the right place, now here is what's going on, and what you must do to advance..."


Binary Logic fucked around with this message at 15:52 on Dec 8, 2018

Binary Logic
Dec 28, 2000

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Binary Logic
Dec 28, 2000

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Still Fluxing posted:

Not even when Archie was ready to straight up murder a man with gardening shears? Because my vocal chords got a work out at that point.

That was pretty funny.

What I took from this episode is that
1. the dreaded fearful Goblin King is actually just a recruiter for Hiram Lodge Industries personnel department.
And
B. The whole casino night storyline made no sense. Veronica's deal with Elio was that he provides the games and high rollers in exchange for "25 per cent". How was that in any way good for Elio, he was already getting 100% of the take from the high rollers at his own place. (And why would they all rush over to a room that only serves mocktails LOL)
Then, Veronica made a bet with the deed to Pop's, and won. So she just gave Elio 25% of Pop's. (Although the bank that gave her a 2nd mortgage on the property might not be too happy about her using it for a casino bet).
But she had a crooked dealer so didn't even need to do any of that; she could have used the dealer to 'fleece' Elio long before it got to that point. The better move would have been to clean out Elio early, opening up the table for more high rollers.

Binary Logic fucked around with this message at 18:14 on Dec 9, 2018

Binary Logic
Dec 28, 2000

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TheCenturion posted:

He got 25 percent of the House take. She made a side bet against him directly and won. The deed did not go to the house.
The casino scene made no sense. First Veronica has a conversation and Reggie says "Your friend Elio is on a hot streak. He hasn't lost a hand all night." and then, "He's got to be cheating". But she has her own card mechanic dealing. Elio says, "I never had such a run of luck".
So that doesn't make sense. A good mechanic would have the player lose but win enough that he kept playing and buying more chips.

But Veronica's plan is for the dealer to cheat so that Elio wins (her money) every hand, so she can then put up Pops as collateral on a bet...to win back her own money?! The big stack of chips Elio pushes in for the bet - that's casino money which he's won since "he hasn't lost a hand all night". If he hasn't lost a hand all night he's playing with the casino's money, not his own.


And was it a side bet? The dealer didn't have a hand, they didn't ante up, and the bet was between her (the house, the casino, the bank) and Elio.
Veronica: Deal me in. One hand of blackjack, just you and me. Winner takes all.
Elio: What am I playing for?
Veronica: This. The deed to Pops. And by extension, to La Bonne Nuit.
(she wins)
Elio: But that's impossible
Veronica: Why, Elio? The house always win.

Veronica says she's the house. And the deed went to Veronica (the house).

Binary Logic fucked around with this message at 13:05 on Dec 10, 2018

Binary Logic
Dec 28, 2000

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Phylodox posted:

Stop caring. This show operates 1000% on the “Whatever sounds cool and dramatic in the moment” principle. If you’re putting any thought into anything after the fact, you’re doing it wrong.

I know that but sometimes the writing is just weird and doesn't make sense. Another little example: before bashing Archie with a cast iron skillet the Lake girl says, "I made you some more eggs, hope you don't mind".

"I made you more eggs, hope you're hungry" or "I made you more eggs, hope you like them". But why would you say "hope you don't mind"?! They're not Archie's eggs. Is it southern slang or something? Does it sound cool and dramatic?
Like, it would have been better if she'd gone, "I made you some more eggs, hope you don't mind..."
(caves in his head with cast iron skillet)
"...that I had to do this."

Binary Logic fucked around with this message at 15:59 on Dec 10, 2018

Binary Logic
Dec 28, 2000

Fun Shoe
Also the effect of Fizzle Rocks is entirely dependent on where the storyline has to go next. When Jughead was wandering through the town he met up with some girls playing G&G, and there's an open pack of the Fiz in plain view.



But they're calmly sitting there, have normal conversation, speak in complete sentences, and show no effects of any drug. Other people take a hit of Fizzle and pass out or have programmed hallucinations. These young ladies are composed, rational and seem fully sober.

Binary Logic
Dec 28, 2000

Fun Shoe

Space Cadet Omoly posted:

Maybe they were eating non-drugged fizzle rock candy?

Or maybe these girls can just handle their hallucinogens better than the lightweights over in Riverdale.
Oh great there's Fizzle Rocks and Fizzle Rocks Classic LOL.

Sgt. Politeness posted:

It's this.


The kids were made up to look like junkies so I assumed they had a tolerance or were coming down. Seems like it's supposed to be like a hallucinagenic meth, which is a scary thought.

Then they're the most well-mannered, well-spoken and polite junkies in the history of tv. I do like the show and my nitpicking or over-analyzing isn't really serious like say in the Walking Dead thread.
Maybe my real problem with this episode was, not enough Cheryl.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYYVXAL7cpk

Binary Logic
Dec 28, 2000

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Cheryl's family physician is Dr. Caligari. Of course.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aimAeeDx2p4

Still Fluxing posted:

Betty cosplaying as the Griffon Queen was the best. The wings made out of mops! loving brilliant.


Binary Logic
Dec 28, 2000

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Sgt. Politeness posted:

Is it just me or is it way too late to expect us to care about SATs? Like maybe season one before serial killers, drug cults, mafia hits, child prison fight clubs, and martial law quarantine but we're so far off the rails at this point like how could I ever give a poo poo about a test?

These 'kids' have been in Grade 12 for 3 years now so there's a lot of pressure on them to finally move on from high school.

Binary Logic
Dec 28, 2000

Fun Shoe
The Chinatown tribute angle was fun.

But Archie's arc in about forty minutes went from psychopath fighting at his father's job site, to walking into hospital room with a gun to, "hey Josie maybe we could jam sometime?"
When she replied, "Yeah sure but you're singing back up" she was taking her life into her own hands! He might just as quickly have taken a swing at her and said, "I don't sing back up for anybody. Not for my father's foreman not for Hiram Lodge and not for you".

Malpais Legate posted:

Okay but my dude they were explicitly in grade 10 in season 1 & 2 and now in grade 11, when Americans are expected to take their SATs.

Like the principal straight up says "maybe you should repeat your junior year."

They're all still played by adults so you still got us there.
Thanks, I need the occasional reminder this woman's in grade 11.

Binary Logic
Dec 28, 2000

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Space Cadet Omoly posted:

As much as I liked this episode, yeah, I'm really hoping we get more scenes of Reggie and Veronica doing crimes together.

Reggie got shot.

Gina Gershon was better than her previous appearance, she seems to have a better handle on the tone of the show and her character.

terrified of my bathroom posted:

Toni and Cheryl's goth girl gang owns but my god "The Pretty Poisons" is a bad name

Gotta love Reggie acting like an excited puppy about crimes though
Alliteration is such a comic book staple. Pretty Poison is pretty bad.
Cheryl's still the cheerleaing team leader, right? Girl sure keeps busy. SATs, student body president, gang leader, cheerleader captain, archery practice, and doin' some crimes in her spare time.

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Binary Logic
Dec 28, 2000

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1glitch0 posted:

I can see the series finale being Jughead's narration ending with him and Archie as lovers in a nice bed and breakfast after they ran away together.

But then we see it was just a dream and Jug is actually under attack by zombies in the high school, but then aliens save his life at the last second before he's eaten and they beam him up to their ship and they tell him they have a reality altering device and then give Jug the position of god of earth and he can recreate it however he wants and, in fact, everyone's in Riverdale are fictional characters whom's lives have been rebooted dozens of times through comics and tv shows, and as Jughead looks down on Earth he realizes that his and his friends are living in a repeating hell, but maybe this time he can do it right and it can all end and then they just cut to RIVERDALE and the show is over.

Like, that probably won't happen, but you can't tell me with certainty it won't.

RIVERDALE
Lay off the fizzle rocks, my man.

But you're right, there's nothing out of reach for this crazy show.

Kyle McLachan shows up at the Chock-Lit Shoppe, as Agent Dale Cooper. Orders up his usual, takes one bite of pie, gets the latest info about the town from Pop and goes, "This poo poo is too crazy, I'm outta here!"

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