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Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004


Out here, everything hurts.




CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:

poo poo OP, goode catte

:same:

Didn't get a single trick or treater this year so I brought the candy in and gave it to my night shift.

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Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004


Out here, everything hurts.




Powershift posted:

Merry christmas, everybody!

I will throw people out of my house if they start talking about wanting to put up Christmas decorations before Thanksgiving.

For gently caress's sake, stop buying into the retail dream that keeps pushing the start of their only profitable season earlier each year.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004


Out here, everything hurts.




Good lookin' burgs!

I suppose I should caveat, the exception is exterior christmas lights. Those go up after Halloween and come down in the spring for me because Dad got me into the habit of not loving about on the roof once it starts snowing. :)

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004


Out here, everything hurts.




STR posted:

(speaking of, she doesn't like me using condoms, and I know drat well my pull out game isn't that great, so it's been Russian Roulette).

All else aside, man, this is a hard no. :stonk:


You have been pretty clear about not wanting kids, so that is deeply not cool.

:sever:

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004


Out here, everything hurts.




keykey posted:

Pretty much. Imagine if you will, getting really worked up emotionally over the cola wars because that's where we're at with politics. People just need to take a few years off of politics and realize it doesn't impact their life nearly as much as they're told it does.

This is a hell of a position to take in a thread where a fellow poster just noted why the party in power would prefer them dead. Maybe exercise a little empathy and realize that just because you're in a position you believe is insulated enough to be above it all, it doesn't mean there aren't a ton of people in the US with a lot to lose?

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004


Out here, everything hurts.




keykey posted:

Forgive my sarcasm, but both my trans friends committed suicide in their early 40’s and as loving weird as it may seem were both staunch highly religious republicans, because California and anti-establishment as weird as it is to wrap your mind around that... Turns out hormones have a good chance of doing some wonderful poo poo to your brain which is why a psychologist is recommended at all times and tone of the reasons trans death is young. So to our trans posters out there, be safe and do everything to a T. Also, both had really hosed up, highly abusive childhoods which both of them point blank said that’s why they didn’t feel comfortable in their own bodies and felt like less of a man so they reassigned. Their plight had nothing to do with a party in power, but hormones and abusive childhoods are a cocktail for disaster, at least in both my friends. Thanks, now I really miss them. :(

I'm sorry to hear that. My sarcasm detector's a bit toasty right now, so I wasn't really sure if that was a good faith post. :smith:

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004


Out here, everything hurts.




Adiabatic posted:

How's everyone's day? Anything you're looking forward to?

Praying for the sweet release of death. Whoever decided scheduling mandatory meetings five hours after the end of my shift when I have to work the next night was cool needs to get these hands. At least it's my Friday tonight, so I can have a beer and a sleep tomorrow morning.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004


Out here, everything hurts.




The Door Frame posted:

She talked about how some day, she might accept the ring back, but without her, there's nothing keeping me in Illinois. I think I can finally get out of this place. If she decides that she wants to come with, cool, but I'm not going to stick around here longer than I need to

This is a real good attitude to take, man. Never make your life choices based on those of someone who has clearly decided they don't have a stake in them. Do what you need to do for you. :unsmith:

keykey posted:

If you're not getting paid to go, gently caress that noise.

Salaried management has its drawbacks.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004


Out here, everything hurts.




mariooncrack posted:

My dad told me the other day that he was going to a meeting about in home care if he ever needs it. :smith:

Hey, he has a plan. That is so much better than the alternative, trying to sort it out while he's incapacitated.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004


Out here, everything hurts.




You Am I posted:

Yeah my dad never had a plan (outside of the dark humour he had - "I'll keep a bottle of pills near my bed. The day you ask me what they are for and I can't remember, feed me them"), and when Alzheimers hit him hard I had to run around like a headless chook finding a place that would take him and actually care for his needs. It took four places to find the right one.

Yup. Dad went from working six days a week to totally incapacitated by cancer in nine days, and it took forever for my stepmom to get the help she needed to take care of him properly arranged.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004


Out here, everything hurts.




Elmnt80 posted:

I got bill collectors to stop for a solid month after I started hitting on the guy calling me with the most stereotypical flaming gay voice I could muster. The discomfort in the guys voice as he tried to go through his script as I tried to get him to tell me what he was wearing was absolutely palpable. They stopped again for a couple weeks again after I answered and acted like a pissed off redneck about to beat his wife for her talking to another man. Its been the same indian dude calling for that debt for the last 7 years. I sincerely hope my number comes up and he just sighs before dialing the number.

I have one particular number that keeps calling which I have started treating like I was appealing to a cricket umpire. Answer phone, engage in a drawn out single tone scream for as long as I care to, then hang up.

'Hello, we're calling to offer you a vaca...' 'AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH' '...tion packag?' 'AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH*click*'

It's cathartic.

spog posted:

Don't get too flattered: he might just have been so desperate for a nicotine fix that he was trying to suck the smoke out of your lungs.

Given the price of smokes? Plausible.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004


Out here, everything hurts.




freelop posted:

That just put an image in my head of a hospital filled with doctors wearing gimp suits and other assorted leather garments

Skintight vinyl would be easy to keep clean...

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004


Out here, everything hurts.




Queen Combat posted:

Hippie trans teetotaling medic mechanic? These are professionals! I'd be thrown in the loony bin. Or invited to parties. Nurses are weird.

E: I don't have class until 1400 tomorrow, watching The Fellowship of the Ring Extended Edition for the first time ever.

Be careful. The last nurse around here who got deep into Tolkien ended up with Strong Opinions on elf reproduction.

On second thought, that was frickin' hilarious, carry on. :D

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004


Out here, everything hurts.




Nope, I'm still waiting for an excuse to send one for Secret Santa. :v:

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004


Out here, everything hurts.




keykey posted:

I could imagine. We deal with rando's, but you were dealing with sickies 24/7. That's gotta be some bullshit.

Side note: Anybody else playing Fallout 76?

Guilty as charged. I have a week off and got it for an early Christmas present. Not bad so far, but very Fallout 4.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004


Out here, everything hurts.




Fermented Tinal posted:

21yo kid was going too fast for the icy conditions and my only options were to get hit from behind or enter the intersection and get t-boned.

You okay?

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004


Out here, everything hurts.




ExplodingSims posted:

WOODEN TREES CANT MELT STEEL BEAMS





I wish that wasn't somebodies actual opinion. :(

That drives me nuts. Like, motherfucker, do you know nothing about anything? Do you not understand the very loving basic concept of fuel + oxygen + fire equals heat, and that metals soften far below the temps needed to make them liquid?

A quick Google shows structural carbon steels start to soften at 300c and start to melt below 900c. A forest fire easily gets to 800c, and one like the Camp Fore with a 50mph wind feeding it can locally go mutch hotter, having been recorded in previous fires hitting over 1200c.

This is like, iron age basics of metalworking.

Liquid Communism fucked around with this message at 16:31 on Nov 16, 2018

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004


Out here, everything hurts.




Oof, that's a kick in the gut. I hope like hell y'all have better days ahead.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004


Out here, everything hurts.





41 minutes of tool and die porn. :stare:

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004


Out here, everything hurts.




MomJeans420 posted:

This is probably like asking what's the one true religion, but I need a corn bread recipe and my friends from the south insist you can't use sugar, and all the recipes I see online have sugar in them. Thoughts and/or recipes? My friend who makes very good corn bread but is from California uses sugar, but it tastes good so I may just use his recipe.

5 tb butter, unsalted
3/4c flour
3/4c cornmeal
1 1/2 tsp baking powder
1/2 tsp baking soda
1/2 tsp salt
2 eggs
1 cup buttermilk

Oven to 425. Butter an 8" pan, or oil a cast iron skillet if you prefer. Melt the butter. Whisk together dry ingredients. Separately whisk together buttermilk and eggs. Add butter. Mix into dry ingredients until just combined, don't over-stir it or you'll get tough cornbread. Pan, bake ~20 minutes, or until golden on top and a toothpick in the middle comes out clean.

Liquid Communism fucked around with this message at 14:39 on Nov 20, 2018

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004


Out here, everything hurts.




Alton's is great, but they wanted no sugar. :)

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004


Out here, everything hurts.




Sweet cornbread has its place... but that place is under chili.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004


Out here, everything hurts.




Powershift posted:

I ask just to piss people off, because the same people who give a poo poo about beans in chili also put mustard in barbecue sauce.

Beans in chili are good.

Mustard-based bbq sauces are also good. I'm more into Memphis-style dry rub-only though, and I'll never say no to KC-style burnt ends or Texas brisket.

Liquid Communism fucked around with this message at 10:12 on Nov 21, 2018

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004


Out here, everything hurts.




Oh hey. AB decided to get topical, and put out a neecornbread recipe on Good Eats Reloaded this week.

https://www.cookingchanneltv.com/recipes/alton-brown/all-corn-cornbread-5500278

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004


Out here, everything hurts.




Rhyno posted:

The rear door is only a few years old. The front door has a large window in it and is a bit older. It's on the list of things we want to fully replace.

I wouldn't panic too hard about replacing it. Residential locks are for keeping honest people honest. The number of ways into a house if you don't care about it being an obvious break-in later are huge.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004


Out here, everything hurts.





On the list of people who should have access to a turkey fryer, you are high up for sheer terror, Dave.

Hope that was a tasty bird!

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004


Out here, everything hurts.




Queen Combat posted:

I feel nasty above 30%



Though my skin is drying out like crazy from, like, not having any testosterone, so I'm probably going to have to change my habits. Woke up one morning to the tips of both middle fingers dry and threatening to bleed. I've tried to keep my living areas at or below 30% for years and this is the first year where it's mattered.

Drinking water and coconut oil lotion helps.

Just up it a bit. As I've gotten older, I've noticed that if I don't run a humidifier in here in the winter my knuckles start to crack and bleed.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004


Out here, everything hurts.




Call me old fashioned, but screw white trim. Especially when you're the loving DIY channel inspired flippers that got into all the older housing stock here and slapped cheap white paint over all the beautiful 1920's era six inch wood trim and solid doors.

Living in a greige box with wall words and pointless barn doors has zero appeal or personality

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004


Out here, everything hurts.




Jesus, 7 overtimes.

I thought it was nuts my Cyclones came back to win from a 17 point deficit. :stare:

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004


Out here, everything hurts.





Really, doing a dry run with a marker locked in the mill instead of a bit is my kind of brilliant.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004


Out here, everything hurts.




meatpimp posted:

I teach this in class. I ask "how many of you were told that you have to do well in high school to get into a good college to get a good job?" EVERY SINGLE STUDENT raises their hands. They are shocked when I tell them that is a new construct and that wasn't told to students even 20 years ago.

The system has generated this doctrine that everyone needs to see college as a path and that's just bullshit. College has its place. So do the trades and other service careers.

At the same time this doctrine has arisen, the cost of going to college has, in many cases, tripled. It's some serious bullshit fuckery we're doing to an entire generation of students when they go from having to ask permission to go to the bathroom to making life-effecting decisions within moments.

It sure as hell was told to me 20 years ago, and we were the last class (in the very tail end of the 90's) to get through before my district completely stopped offering shop/home ec/auto maintenance as courses. It's why I'm still paying off student loans at this point, despite having dropped out upon rightly realizing that a degree for the sake of a degree wasn't worth the debt at the time, and having a very good job now thanks to sheer dogged persistence and some very lucky breaks.

Loans should be done next year, if I've budgeted correctly.

Goober Peas posted:

Oh hey, a bazillion posts in the chat thread. Someone's gonna get probed.

edit: there you go

Have you driven a Ford....lately?

Half an hour or so ago, Crown Vic on icy roads is disturbingly fun. :v:

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004


Out here, everything hurts.




Suburban Dad posted:

I'm a couple days behind on posts, so excuse me for bringing up "old" poo poo.


Not too surprised to be honest. Not many took the buyout (maybe ~1/8 that were offered) so figured this was going to happen to some degree. I'm surprised that so many plants and car lines are potentially getting axed, but it makes sense with the direction the company is going and where the market is. GM has a habit of keeping low volume products around for too long (either through having too many options/engines/transmissions and combinations that have a very small take rate, etc), so I'm hopeful that some of that is curbed with this sort of thing to streamline manufacturing.

This isn't affecting just Ford and GM. People can poo poo on GM cars but even Honda and Toyota are having trouble selling sedans, that's the just market currently. The steel tariff definitely hasn't helped things, either, to the tune of about a $1B each for Ford and GM.

My opinion on the college degree chat: Degrees are good as long as you get something that has a job potential with it. I think being told to go to college and "follow you dreams" by parents/teachers/etc. and then getting an Art degree is where it may have gone wrong for some folks maybe? I don't personally have any friends with degrees that didn't get jobs out of college, so my perspective may be skewed. :shrug:

Engineering has served me well thus far.... uh let me get back to confirm that in a few weeks/months. :ohdear:


For sure. drat good neighbor right there.

Art degrees have value. They simply don't lead to jobs sufficient for a school system that predicates cost to value on high earning STEM field results.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004


Out here, everything hurts.




keykey posted:

I completely agree that the price of a degree needs to be reflected in the actual wage prices as the end result since there are a ton of bullshit degrees out there that students are going for that are a fast pass to homelessness. Part of what guidance counselors should be doing is talking about the input vs the output factor. Some of us are in the trap that we have to get degrees to advance ourselves in our careers, this could be either driven by field, location, or in my case longevity. In CA, a bachelors is now the equivalent to a high school diploma, so you have to get a grad degree to stand out, especially in my age group hell, I even thought about continuing to finish a doctorate just to be done with it all, which I may still have to do a decade from now. I could easily see grad degrees being the new high school diploma for my kids generation with how CA views education.

Humanities degrees, and the jobs that require them are valuable to society. We need people who can teach. We need people in the soft sciences.

Unfortunately, at this point, we don't need them in sufficient quantity for those jobs to be easy to find, or require reasonable pay to attract candidates. They aren't like the software field, where college graduates face a kind of planned obsolescence because it is cheaper to replace them in a few years with someone fresh out of school on the new tooling rather than retrain. People make full careers in those fields, and in a lot of them retire when they drop dead in their office because they can't afford to do otherwise.

We absolutely need skilled labor, but a lot of those jobs are physically demanding and are definitely seen as second class and lacking in respectability.

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Mar 9, 2004


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NitroSpazzz posted:

I've been trying to pick away at my garage and organize it a little bit every weekend but it's overwhelming. I think I'm going to set a rule to make it easier for me to throw things out...something like if I haven't used it in 6 months and it's less than $25 toss/donate it. Things <$50 that I havne't used in 6+ months are getting listed for sale. At least that's what I'm thinking.

I also need to organize and wire the unfinished basement side of the garage which requires me to move out four cars, two motorcycles and a ton of stuff.

For shelving I picked up four big shelves at Sams club for ~$50 a piece. Think they're rated for a couple hundred pounds per level and seem to be holding up fine with engines and transmissions on them.

I do exactly this with the stuff around my house. Got a box in my garage that stuff gets put in, if I don't find a reason to go get it within a few months it leaves. Helps keep the clutter down, and most of it I hand off to friends who find it useful.

Bajaha posted:

Anybody else getting annoyed at the volume of knock off and cheap products on Amazon? Got a new phone and looking for USB C cables and it's just a flood of cheap products, same for Qi chargers.

It's really gone downhill, and with how evil Amazon has been to its workers I'm starting to think it's time to jump ship.

I pretty much quit ordering with them for anything but books because of it. They have previous record of binning multiple vendors' same-sku products together as well, so ordering name brand isn't a gaurantee you won't get a lovely knock-off delivered if some bad actor has them listed as the same SKU.

Tools or electronics? gently caress no.

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