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Season 5/the final season starts TONIGHT https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9_QOD8Ec98 This season has a short order with just 12 episodes (originally they ordered 10 but expanded it.) Recap for S4 finale quote:Selina is hospitalized with likely permanent spinal damage. Ra's al Ghul kidnaps Bruce, breaks Jeremiah out of custody and steals his bombs back from the GCPD. Nygma tries to kill Gordon and free Lee from her old self, but Lee falsely convinces Nygma she no longer loves Gordon. Cobblepot, Alfred and the Sirens briefly ally against Jeremiah and the League of Shadows. Barbara kills Ra's with his knife (gripping it in Bruce's hands), while Jeremiah's bombs kill the mayor and destroy every bridge out of Gotham, reducing the city to lawlessness. Cobblepot hires Hugo Strange, who successfully turns Grundy back into Butch; however, Cobblepot then kills Butch in front of Tabitha as retribution for his mother. Lee decides to help the civilians and breaks up with Nygma, but the confrontation ends with the two stabbing each other; Cobblepot finds their bodies and orders Strange to "fix" them. With Gotham largely evacuated and overrun by criminals, Bruce accepts his destiny as the city's protector and begins hunting Jeremiah. Gordon, supported by Bullock, Fox and a dozen other cops, also stays to fight for the city, and operates a searchlight atop GCPD Headquarters as a symbol against the darkness.
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I'm here. I'm excited. That opening was pure Gotham madness
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Jan 4, 2019 02:15
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LAST SEASON LOSERS GET HYPE 
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Jan 4, 2019 03:28
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Gordon better have grown a mustache by the end of this season.
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Jan 4, 2019 06:19
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Grinning Goblin posted:Gordon better have grown a mustache by the end of this season. Eh. If that flashforward Day 391 is any indication, I bet the show doesn't even try to touch his classic look at the end. Only 12 episodes for the final season. This thing should move quickly.
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Jan 4, 2019 16:08
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Grinning Goblin posted:Gordon better have grown a mustache by the end of this season. We already got Gordon with a mustache when Bruce had that weird dream sequence. The first episode sure had a lot of stuff happen in it, should be interesting if the show keeps up the pace.
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Jan 5, 2019 01:56
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I really dig that the first Batman thing Bruce does this year is getting the cops more bullets
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Jan 5, 2019 03:20
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I guess the show’s just entirely eschewing the idea of Batman having a secret identity, because there’s no way that, like, half the city isn’t going to put two and two together the second Bruce bothers to put on the mask.
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I noticed in this episode that David Mazouz has grown up to look pretty Batman-y. Like, seeing his face now I reckon if he put the mask on he'd look the part. So, good job whoever cast that kid 4+ years ago.Phylodox posted:I guess the show’s just entirely eschewing the idea of Batman having a secret identity, because there’s no way that, like, half the city isn’t going to put two and two together the second Bruce bothers to put on the mask.
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Jan 5, 2019 05:24
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I would have been fine with Penguin icing Barbara there.
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Jan 6, 2019 21:49
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That was a lot better than I expected. I was actually worried when we came back, Gotham was gonna be back to normal. A sort of repeat of Hugo's monsters getting rounded up entirely offscreen. -Got a chuckle out of Riddler's situation, really wondering where that's going. Wonder where Lee is? -Penguin being on top is always great to see, even though he got shot. -Really surprised they killed off Tabitha, but I'll bet anything she'll be back by the series' end. -Wonder who shot down the helicopter, my guess would be The Joker. -Dunno who this "witch" is, anyone know who she could be? -Also surprised about the preview for next week with Bruce and Joker clashing in what's almost certainly the Ace Chemicals factory. Seems like something that should be saved for the grand finale. nooneofconsequence posted:I would have been fine with Penguin icing Barbara there.
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Jan 7, 2019 00:21
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TheLoneStar posted:-Dunno who this "witch" is, anyone know who she could be? Certainly something Fishy going on there.
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Jan 7, 2019 00:32
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I'm betting on Ivy as the witch.
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Jan 7, 2019 00:57
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McTimmy posted:I'm betting on Ivy as the witch. She said witch, not witch-hazel.
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Jan 7, 2019 01:10
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Considering they're talking about healing Selena it could be Lee.
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Jan 7, 2019 01:22
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muscles like this! posted:Considering they're talking about healing Selena it could be Lee. That's my guess, but I like Phylodox's suggestion much more.
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Jan 7, 2019 04:22
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What would Fish have to do with healing powers? That wasn't even close to her ability. Also it was confirmed she would never be coming back anyway.
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I rewatched the s4 finale and the s5 premiere back to back and here is my crazy theory: Riddler seems certain that his "blackouts" and waking up in unfamiliar places or whatnot are due to the fact that he is sharing his body with the old meeker Ed and thinks that Ed is in control during those times he doesn't remember. My theory is (as insane as it sounds), the "other person" sharing his body and taking his physical form to these random places is not the previous Ed, and that Hugo Strange somehow resurrected Ed and Lee together in such a way that they share the same body in a transforming-back-and-forth Jeckyll and Hyde fashion and the "other person" sharing Ed's body is Lee.
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Jan 7, 2019 10:50
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bbf2 posted:My theory is (as insane as it sounds), the "other person" sharing his body and taking his physical form to these random places is not the previous Ed, and that Hugo Strange somehow resurrected Ed and Lee together in such a way that they share the same body in a transforming-back-and-forth Jeckyll and Hyde fashion and the "other person" sharing Ed's body is Lee.
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Jan 7, 2019 11:09
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Oof, that'd be rough. It's also straight up Gotham's alley, so I wouldn't put it past them at all. I've missed almost all of this show, I gotta set aside time to watch it all when it wraps up since I generally liked it's wild vibe whenever I saw it.
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Jan 7, 2019 11:12
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TheLoneStar posted:What would Fish have to do with healing powers? That wasn't even close to her ability. She kidnapped Hugo Strange again. Obviously.
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Tiggum posted:Why would Lee go to sleep in a skip? Because Hugo Strange spliced them with raccoon DNA. What? It's Gotham! This could actually be the answer. (For what it's worth, I was suspecting RiddLee as well.)
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Jan 7, 2019 14:29
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I hope the witch is Zatanna (it isn't) It might be Talia al Ghul, though
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Jan 7, 2019 15:14
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Bring back my boy Zsasz, I miss him.
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Jan 7, 2019 18:04
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TheLoneStar posted:Bring back my boy Zsasz, I miss him. He was on Gordon's map. I miss him too, though. He was loving great
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I hope the Witch is Lady Shiva because Bruce has got to learn more than a few basic boxing moves before becoming Batman, c'mon!! Edit: nm, I thought Lady Shiva healed Batman's back after Bane broke it in the comics, but she just helped him learn how to punch with passion again Balthesar fucked around with this message at 18:28 on Jan 7, 2019 |
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Jan 7, 2019 18:26
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The Bloop posted:He was on Gordon's map. I miss him too, though. He was loving great
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The Spectrum-Tribune battle kept me from seeing Gotham, and even on In Demand, it wanted me to buy the episode for some crazy reason... but I also have an Amazon Fire stick, so I downloaded Fox Now and watched the premiere last night. And boy, did I get my ham! I love that Tabitha is dead, and I hope she stays that way. I was tired of her arc some time ago; the whole "totally invincible fighter who can't never ever be defeated in battle" shtick gets old after awhile. But, it was weird that this woman, who I'm pretty sure has survived multiple brush-ups with people who had swords and/or guns, was suddenly overpowered by a crippled weirdo. Sure, Penguin has creepiness in his favor, but why was he suddenly too strong for her? Doesn't she have a side job teaching moms how to lift wrecked cars off of their babies or something? But that's a minor quibble. She was a vicious bastard, Tabitha, and I'm glad she's dead. Hahahahahahaha! I'm glad she's dead! ahahahahaha... glad she's dead, ahahahahahaha.... I knew that chopper would get shot down, but making it fly super-low, and between the buildings to boot, felt conspicuously implausible in a show full of supernatural supervillains. C'mon, guys, I demand realism from my Batman fiction! In real life, no helicopter would fly that low through a city when the only thing known about the city is that it's chock-full of anarchy! I'm starting to think that the writers are not taking this seriously. Seriously, though, overall, it was a good episode. A little over the top, sure, but I think that now, at the end of its run, Gotham has found where it wants to live. It's found that crazy, not-even-sure-it-was-there place between straight police procedural and wacko grimdark DC comic book reality that I wasn't sure it'd ever find back when the show should have been called The Life And Times of Fish and Penguin And Other Ancillary Characters Whose Names You Recognize.
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tarlibone posted:I knew that chopper would get shot down, but making it fly super-low, and between the buildings to boot, felt conspicuously implausible in a show full of supernatural supervillains. C'mon, guys, I demand realism from my Batman fiction! In real life, no helicopter would fly that low through a city when the only thing known about the city is that it's chock-full of anarchy! I'm starting to think that the writers are not taking this seriously. It is 100% totally plausible that the illegal helicopter illegally carrying illegal supplies into a city that’s been cut off by the military would want to fly that low to avoid being spotted on radar.
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Phylodox posted:It is 100% totally plausible that the illegal helicopter illegally carrying illegal supplies into a city that’s been cut off by the military would want to fly that low to avoid being spotted on radar. Lot of radar installations between skyscrapers are there?
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Burning_Monk posted:Lot of radar installations between skyscrapers are there? WHAT no, that's the point
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Phylodox posted:It is 100% totally plausible that the illegal helicopter illegally carrying illegal supplies into a city that’s been cut off by the military would want to fly that low to avoid being spotted on radar. I get that. But between buildings? In a city that's known to be dangerous? Someone with a regular gun could damage the chopper from their bedroom, and the only thing they knew about the area was that only the bad guys have guns, and they control most of the city. It's a minor quibble, really. As soon as Bruce said that he could fly some supplies in, I already knew exactly how it would play out. Except that Tabitha died.
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tarlibone posted:I get that. But between buildings? In a city that's known to be dangerous? Someone with a regular gun could damage the chopper from their bedroom, and the only thing they knew about the area was that only the bad guys have guns, and they control most of the city. They knew that, other than Penguin, the bad guys largely didn’t have weapons. Everyone’s short on ammunition. And Penguin’s only making bullets, certainly not anti-aircraft weapons. On the other hand, the military surrounding Gotham assuredly does have anti-aircraft ordinance and helicopters of their own.
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Jan 7, 2019 21:00
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We still don't know who shot it down
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Jan 7, 2019 21:07
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Davros1 posted:We still don't know who shot it down It was Jeremiah.
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Jan 7, 2019 21:09
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Davros1 posted:We still don't know who shot it down 
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Balthesar posted:I hope the Witch is Lady Shiva because Bruce has got to learn more than a few basic boxing moves before becoming Batman, c'mon!! Yeah, it was Dr. Kinsolving who healed Batman's back because of her weird psychic bullshit. Man, Knightfall got weird.
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Jan 7, 2019 22:13
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Great 1st episode for the final season. I will be sad when it is gone.
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Jan 8, 2019 03:23
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Oh my god, it's the dog. Hugo Strange put the Edward personality in Penguin's dog, "Ed". And the Riddler is now part dog, hence the waking up in rubbish skips.
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Open Source Idiom posted:Oh my god, it's the dog. That would be peak Gotham.
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