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Wirth1000 posted:I bet someone said something complimentary towards Honda. More like somebody didn’t stay out drinking late enough. The championship-winning number 6 Wakos car is likely to move under the Cerumo team umbrella, Toyota bringing it more in-house.
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Good news everyone!: https://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/updated-le-mans-hypercar-technical-regs-released/ quote:Rotary engines will be allowed in the new category, which is to replace LMP1 as the top class of the WEC and the 24 Hours of Le Mans from the 2020-21 season.
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this is just the excuse we needed for the return of NSU
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Speaking of Mazda, Dyson racing rumored to be coming back to IMSA in a Mazda DPi
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MazeOfTzeentch posted:Speaking of Mazda, Dyson racing rumored to be coming back to IMSA in a Mazda DPi Hinch and Pigot are still in Mazda's good graces too. Just sayin.
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Cygni posted:Hinch and Pigot are still in Mazda's good graces too. Just sayin. They may wind up in the “normal” spots if Joest takes their drivers away during the year. But I do like the way you’re thinking! In other news, the WEC Bahrain 8 Hours starts in one hour from now! 
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harperdc posted:They may wind up in the “normal” spots if Joest takes their drivers away during the year. But I do like the way you’re thinking! Which channels are showing the race live? Edit: Found it on Motor Trend Custard Undies fucked around with this message at 12:53 on Dec 14, 2019 |
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McLaren and Porsche are pushing for a unified LMP1/DPi platform: https://racer.com/2019/12/14/mclaren-porsche-seek-dpi-hypercar-convergence/
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Custard Undies posted:Which channels are showing the race live? Is it actually on the Motortrend channel? I'm just seeing a random car show.
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40 cars for the 24hrs of Daytona, down 7 total. DPi goes from 11 to 8, GTLM goes from 9 to 7, GTD 23 to 18. At least there are more P2 cars to make that category not a joke I guess.
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By the way, i went back through the records, and this is the smallest field in Daytona 24 history....
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Cygni posted:By the way, i went back through the records, and this is the smallest field in Daytona 24 history.... 
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still a ways to go to achieve Daytona 200 levels of irrelevance, keep pluggin away boys
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hunnert car pileup posted:still a ways to go to achieve Daytona 200 levels of irrelevance, keep pluggin away boys What are you talking about, the Daytona 200 is one of the most prestigious… checks notes ...Daytona SportBike races in the country
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Great news for people who love bad news: Long Road Racing has decided it’s tired of existing and is therefore shutting down at the end of this month. So the Mazda3 TCR is not debuting in 2020 at all now and the MX-5 Cup needs a new car builder before next season
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WindyMan posted:What are you talking about, the Daytona 200 is one of the most prestigious… that race was the poo poo when I was a kid. At least MotoAmerica has done pretty well for itself considering AMA superbike was on death's door 5 years ago.
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Cygni posted:40 cars for the 24hrs of Daytona, down 7 total. DPi goes from 11 to 8, GTLM goes from 9 to 7, GTD 23 to 18. At least there are more P2 cars to make that category not a joke I guess. I'm not even sure what the fix is. GTLM is down because Ford left, one of the DPis gone is the Nissan -- which isn't much of a loss, there wasn't the investment to make the improvements needed -- and for various reasons the GTD and P2 numbers are down. it sure sounds like at least McLaren and Porsche want to mesh the DPI and Hypercar rules so they can run in both IMSA and WEC, and it sounds like Ford wants something similar plus with hybrid as an option. From the discussions and interviews coming out of Bahrain, it certainly sounds like there's more momentum and possibility of this actually happening.
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harperdc posted:I'm not even sure what the fix is. GTLM is down because Ford left, one of the DPis gone is the Nissan -- which isn't much of a loss, there wasn't the investment to make the improvements needed -- and for various reasons the GTD and P2 numbers are down. It'd be interesting but one or the other sanctioning body will get sniffy about something and rip the entire arrangement to shreds and we will enter the dark ages again. Such is the cycle of motorsport
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To be fair, its really only the last few years that Daytona was basically a Pro only race. Even a lot of the Grand Am era had lots of cars and teams that now a days would be in Pilot/Proto Challenge. They performance balanced GT3 Cup and tube frame mustangs into the GT class and stuff not even that long ago. So I bet they could boost the field massively if they added a lower GT class or let LMP3 in. Not all those guys want to spend the money to run a 24, but a good deal would given the chance. But then you have the problem of how you work that into their championship and all that.
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McLaren wants merged DPi and Hypercar regs so they can run a Le Mans program at an IMSA price. They'd definitely run Daytona and the bigger IMSA races but they consider ICS to be their North American series, they're not gonna run it and IMSA both full time.
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So basically they want everyone to gently caress up the regulations just for them and then they're still only run 4 races a year?
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Big Huski Boi posted:McLaren wants merged DPi and Hypercar regs so they can run a Le Mans program at an IMSA price. They'd definitely run Daytona and the bigger IMSA races but they consider ICS to be their North American series, they're not gonna run it and IMSA both full time. Reading between the lines on what Zac Brown said, it sounds like they’d like to build something a customer would run in the US. Building cars more turnkey and priced at a level where they’re able to be raced by privateers at the World Championship or in IMSA...tell me where I’ve seen that before?
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harperdc posted:I'm not even sure what the fix is. GTLM is down because Ford left, one of the DPis gone is the Nissan -- which isn't much of a loss, there wasn't the investment to make the improvements needed -- and for various reasons the GTD and P2 numbers are down. Meshing DPi and Hypercar will fail for the same reason combining DPi and LMP2 failed. The ACO will not let a DPi car win overall at Le Mans, and IMSA will not let a Hypercar win overall at Daytona, so each will have to be gimped before racing in the other's series. Have heard a rumor that Dyson might race a third RT-24P at some races this coming season. (When I first heard the Dyson rumor I thought maybe it was taking over the factory program because Joest has gotten the sack).
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What's really hosed is that the IMSA privateers are pushing back hardcore against hybridization in the DPi 2.0 ruleset in the name of cost control and petitioning for something that's iterative of the current regs rather than a significant leap forward. If you converge DPi 2.0 and Hypercar, the projected budgets are almost guaranteed to be unfeasible for privateers, and you're condemning DPi fields to be smaller and smaller unless something real astounding happens to get more manufacturers on board. If you don't converge them and go with the iterative regs, you're essentially confining IMSA to be a second tier series again
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an oddly awful oud posted:What's really hosed is that the IMSA privateers are pushing back hardcore against hybridization in the DPi 2.0 ruleset in the name of cost control and petitioning for something that's iterative of the current regs rather than a significant leap forward. If you converge DPi 2.0 and Hypercar, the projected budgets are almost guaranteed to be unfeasible for privateers, and you're condemning DPi fields to be smaller and smaller unless something real astounding happens to get more manufacturers on board. If you don't converge them and go with the iterative regs, you're essentially confining IMSA to be a second tier series again IMSA is always gonna be second tier because no fancy pants euro team is gonna run the 6 Hours of Kentucky State Fairgrounds or whatever
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Peanut President posted:IMSA is always gonna be second tier because no fancy pants euro team is gonna run the 6 Hours of Kentucky State Fairgrounds or whatever I don’t actually think IMSA is second tier. There are more factory teams in DPi and GTLM than there are in LMP1 and GTE-Pro, for one thing. Other than Le Mans I’d be very sure that more people watch each IMSA race than WEC round, too.
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drgitlin posted:I don’t actually think IMSA is second tier. There are more factory teams in DPi and GTLM than there are in LMP1 and GTE-Pro, for one thing. Other than Le Mans I’d be very sure that more people watch each IMSA race than WEC round, too. that doesn't mean anything
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Peanut President posted:the 6 Hours of Kentucky State Fairgrounds I defy anyone to tell me why this wouldn't be amazing
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WindyMan posted:I defy anyone to tell me why this wouldn't be amazing It's only 6 hours
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drgitlin posted:I don’t actually think IMSA is second tier. There are more factory teams in DPi and GTLM than there are in LMP1 and GTE-Pro, for one thing. Other than Le Mans I’d be very sure that more people watch each IMSA race than WEC round, too. no one actually gives a poo poo about most of the rounds outside of Le Mans and Daytona hth
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Proud Christian Mom posted:no one actually gives a poo poo about most of the rounds outside of Le Mans and Daytona hth Sebring?
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Proud Christian Mom posted:no one actually gives a poo poo about most of the rounds outside of Le Mans and Daytona hth Sucks to be them then, because sports car racing at Mid-Ohio, Watkins Glen, and Road America is never not awesome. And Petit Le Mans.
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WindyMan posted:I defy anyone to tell me why this wouldn't be amazing held the same week as le mans
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njsykora posted:Also Long Beach and the inevitable hairpin blockage. I miss Baltimore 😭
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MazeOfTzeentch posted:I miss Baltimore 😭 I miss Baltimore, if only because the track would go past my front door.
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