28766f69642a2930 posted:

Seeing how people react is part of mafia though. Your reaction to KB’s not overly energetic prodding seems scummier imo

Murmur Twin posted:

Can you quote me where he cases or votes for KB?

Toalpaz posted:

-S The Hal file:
Probably Hal’s scumgame would vote. Not much of value there. Just doesn't seem present imo.

Hal Incandenza posted:

Wow I don't like all these Max votes, I get wanting to consolidate but I don't find Max to be scummy at all and some of those later votes feel over-explained. Especially Solus.

Toalpaz posted:

I'm pretty much willing to vote anyone on this list and I think B- would be fine seeing as how he's popular.

I think it should be noted that Asiina's lurking incredibly hard this game with only 1 game related post that's a meta read on B- and a bunch of town calls. If B- flips town I think that she's a good place to examine.

Anyways I'm going now but I'll be around on my phone to vote.

Max posted:

I didn't vote for KB, so that won't be there.

Tobbs Gnawed posted:

I gave him a quick re-read. He seemed a bit tunnely on KB, and in a lot of cases tunneliness is next to townliness.

Max posted:

I spent the last 10 minutes or so thinking up a response to this.

This is a game with confessionals, that Podima is moderating. It's just as likely Rex posted their thoughts in there and Podima gave a correction. I don't think this is an avenue worth exploring at all.

Max posted:

KB, what do you think about Rex's posts? Do you agree with their reasoning otherwise, or find it scummy?

Max posted:

I'm quoting this to illustrate something else here. You have no strong reads. Some stuff happened since this post was made, that you even said you agree with. Then you make your post about Rex looking at the use of a single word but say absolutely nothing about their behavior this game otherwise, and vote them. Bad.

Max posted:

If you keep pushing this specific argument, yes. I can see a lot of avenues where KR would have corrected themselves. This is like smoke from a recently burnt out match stick, not a gun.

Max posted:

You said absolutely nothing about Rex's big post of reads beyond this one thing.

Max posted:

I realize you're throwing something I said to Solus right in my face by pointing out that I'm defending KR, but this is a tremendously bad argument.

Max posted:

I've made connections like that before as well, but I generally keep that under my hat and pursue that suspicion by actually engaging with the person to get them to spill more info about other players, or press them in general to see how they react.

KB has completely skipped this step

Max posted:

KB, this is one of the worst cases I've ever seen you make.

Max posted:

I know you well enough that you'd actually, you know, scum hunt and press Rex on their thoughts about other players, or challenge them on their very large post about other players in this game. Again, nothing, you skipped straight to "Rex scum for this one reason."

Max posted:

KB's case is predicated on you being corrected by someone in scum chat, not Toal.

Murmur Twin posted:

PS I think b- is the patsy and won't vote him.

Murmur Twin posted:

PS I think b- is the patsy and won't vote him.

BottleKnight posted:

I would point out this post


which reads very similarly to Hal's early game in final fantasy mafia, where he was scum and defended people a lot more than scumhunting.

Tobbs Gnawed posted:

I won't hold it against you. Looks like town conviction to me, though I disagree.

Tobbs Gnawed posted:

b-minus1 posted:

i don't know what that means. stop hedging. do you think im town or scum?

Murmur Twin posted:

PS I think b- is the patsy and won't vote him.

28766f69642a2930 posted:

MMT I’m feeding baby so I probably can’t respond in depth before deadline but I disagree with you pretty hard on Max

Kashuno posted:

No

b-minus1 posted:

##vote kashuno

Toalpaz posted:

Eh whatever. I'm around on phone to make B- happen. I think it's better than a vote started by someone with one (1) content oriented post.

##vote Hal

Murmur Twin posted:

Sorry my bad, I thought "tunneling" involved calling someone scum or making a case on them.

Murmur Twin posted:

I put it in list form twice, just quote me and bold what you disagree with.

Aaah I'm getting mad at mafia, time to step away.

KhediveRex posted:

You know, I'm over here on this Bminus vote. And I look at vote finder to find out how its doing. And I see that everyone voting with me are people I have null to scum reads on.

Suspicious lurker Asiina.

Suspicious lurker Hal.

Max, the person I was just voting for.

And Tobbs, the best of them. With a sterling null read.

And I ask myself, what am I doing exactly?

The two people being discussed are Max and Bminus. Max is more controversial, sure. But flipping Max tells us more about what went down today than flipping B. And I have a stronger scum lean on Max than on B.

When have I ever shyed away from controversy? I think I need to follow my heart.

##vote Max

KhediveRex posted:

You know, I'm over here on this Bminus vote. And I look at vote finder to find out how its doing. And I see that everyone voting with me are people I have null to scum reads on.

Suspicious lurker Asiina.

Suspicious lurker Hal.

Max, the person I was just voting for.

And Tobbs, the best of them. With a sterling null read.

And I ask myself, what am I doing exactly?

The two people being discussed are Max and Bminus. Max is more controversial, sure. But flipping Max tells us more about what went down today than flipping B. And I have a stronger scum lean on Max than on B.

When have I ever shyed away from controversy? I think I need to follow my heart.

##vote Max

Kashuno posted:

I like toalpaz going the right way ##vote hal goodbye friend hal

BottleKnight posted:

what does "the right way" mean here

or did you poke at hal earlier and i forgot

KhediveRex posted:

You know, I'm over here on this Bminus vote. And I look at vote finder to find out how its doing. And I see that everyone voting with me are people I have null to scum reads on.

Suspicious lurker Asiina.

Suspicious lurker Hal.

Max, the person I was just voting for.

And Tobbs, the best of them. With a sterling null read.

And I ask myself, what am I doing exactly?

The two people being discussed are Max and Bminus. Max is more controversial, sure. But flipping Max tells us more about what went down today than flipping B. And I have a stronger scum lean on Max than on B.

When have I ever shyed away from controversy? I think I need to follow my heart.

##vote Max

28766f69642a2930 posted:

All of it. He even voted more than once, which is a weird mistake for you to make.

Kashuno posted:

I’ve only been posting for like 4 hours bk

Tobbs Gnawed posted:

B- threw light shade on Max, PoS, Kash. That's what we know of his opinions.

Am I scum or town for leading the push? Why is it more important to sit back and wait for a claim to save him than to give opinions on other people pushing votes or being the target of votes?

Why is b- dodging when I ask if he's town?

Pretty easy to say it. I'll do it here.

I am town.

Murmur Twin posted:

I've done my part, good luck town. Closing the laptop.