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LibrarianCroaker
Mar 30, 2010

everythingWasBees posted:

I stated it was banned and then in exchange you guys can talk about the breastfeeding isekai, but also I have literally no power over this thread, said that as a joke, and I read all the poo poo that's problematic and unwholesome anyway short of the revenge rape fantasies.

Just like actually mention the breastfeeding series is about breastfeeding instead of cagely dancing around it and getting people to read it unawares like people were doing earlier in this thread, and please please please don't talk about about stuff like the four different revenge series where the protagonist tries to mindbreak everybody who betrayed him into becoming part of his slave harem.

The goal of this thread was to have a place to talk about isekai manga that people might genuinely enjoy and also not have a slavery discussion or an argument about shield hero every other page.

The potion seller commits multiple war crimes and the slime wipes out an entire country. I don't actually care that much.

to quote OP, who has no power over you.

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Clarste
Apr 15, 2013

Just how many mistakes have you suffered on the way here?

An uncountable number, to be sure.
Yeah, that's what I meant. The definition of unwholesome is literal porn and slavery apologists. The MC being kind of mean or the story getting violent sometimes aren't disqualifiers.

Literally Kermit
Mar 4, 2012
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All kidding aside, I just binged all of "The Villainess Reverses the Hourglass" and it was really good. Definitely has the type of political intrigue going on that I like. However, I particularly liked that there is literally a magic hourglass involved, and atypical of "cheat" abilities, using it costs the MC juuuuust enough to keep it from being overused.

It is wholesome in that the MC VERY slowly grows as a person, and finally has a moment besides having two people set up into a relationship that is convenient for her, she realizes she genuinely wishes for their happiness.

MC also gets bonus points for forming up a cool maid crew, and winning over most of the other maids in the house (who all hated her during her first life).

So thank you for recommending that, thread! Keep up the good work.

doomrider7
Nov 29, 2018
Finished reading Undead Adventurer LN6 and started LN7 via membership and I have to make the call that this is indeed the best DnD manga in recent memory with the only other contenders being Wolf Wont Sleep and Dungeon Meshi.

Fellis
Feb 14, 2012

Kid, don't threaten me. There are worse things than death, and uh, I can do all of them.
just post it in the thread for garbage, it needs more activity anyway: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3894521

e: oh wait nvm, misread the mod post as don't post it in this thread, not don't post it on SA. That's probably a better idea

everythingWasBees
Jan 9, 2013




it's a beauty and the beast story where she kisses the wolf one day and he turns into a person again, going by the description

it has so far not engaged in bestiality at all and besides one or two jokes about it is pretty much a perfect fit for this thread

the chapter was "oh god we're sending this poor woman in with a monster she's going to get eaten" and the punchline was "hey so I knocked him out and I know you guys want me to make an heir but I don't think this is going to work".

so like just mention that hey there's some beastiality jokes in the beginning and I don't see why you wouldn't be able to talk about it here. it is a very different beast (lol) than the multiple reincarnated as an animal and now the female adventurer wants me to mate with her series

everythingWasBees fucked around with this message at 05:48 on Sep 23, 2020

everythingWasBees
Jan 9, 2013




on the other hand if you want to talk about the one where the protagonist is reincarnated as a cat please use the other thread for that that one does not go here

everythingWasBees
Jan 9, 2013




I have no power here but I will fight the mods for your right to talk about the bestiality manwha in this thread

Clarste
Apr 15, 2013

Just how many mistakes have you suffered on the way here?

An uncountable number, to be sure.

everythingWasBees posted:

on the other hand if you want to talk about the one where the protagonist is reincarnated as a cat please use the other thread for that that one does not go here

Okay, but what about the one where the female protagonist gets summoned as a saint but abandoned and then turns into a cat and spends her life curled up on the lap of the dragon king?

everythingWasBees
Jan 9, 2013




Clarste posted:

Okay, but what about the one where the female protagonist gets summoned as a saint but abandoned and then turns into a cat and spends her life curled up on the lap of the dragon king?

turning into a cat and being reincarnated as a cat are totally different things!

Nemo2342
Nov 26, 2007

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Nap Ghost

Clarste posted:

Okay, but what about the one where the female protagonist gets summoned as a saint but abandoned and then turns into a cat and spends her life curled up on the lap of the dragon king?

To be fair she could turn back any time she wants to, she's just kind of embarrassed that she's been mooching off the Dragon King as a cat for months.

Fereydun
May 9, 2008

everythingWasBees posted:

I have no power here but I will fight the mods for your right to talk about the bestiality manwha in this thread

can't believe i sparked the isekai thread civil war by posting a manga with a weird 'holy poo poo what is she doing' punchline to a joke

everythingWasBees
Jan 9, 2013




Fereydun posted:

can't believe i sparked the isekai thread civil war by posting a manga with a weird 'holy poo poo what is she doing' punchline to a joke

it's a good series! the update pace has been really nice

I'm also really liking Ebony but that one isn't quite isekai.

Artificer
Apr 8, 2010

You're going to try ponies and you're. Going. To. LOVE. ME!!
is it actually good or?


edit: is the stupid beastiality "joke" an actual one off that never shows up again or?

Artificer fucked around with this message at 07:39 on Sep 23, 2020

LibrarianCroaker
Mar 30, 2010
the official TL of I Favor the Villainess is out :toot:

everythingWasBees
Jan 9, 2013




Artificer posted:

is it actually good or?


edit: is the stupid beastiality "joke" an actual one off that never shows up again or?

it shows up there and in a flashback to what happened and then never again afaik

everythingWasBees
Jan 9, 2013




also thank you all who recced hourglass it's almost 4am and ive been reading it nonstop it is extremely good

surprisingly not super meanspirited in comparison to a lot of series despite the mc like throwing away all her morals. some of the other revenge series like this start getting super hard to stomach. Shen Yi Di Nu was one I really liked but just had to stop reading after a point.

everythingWasBees fucked around with this message at 08:32 on Sep 23, 2020

thetoughestbean
Apr 27, 2013

Keep On Shroomin
Where should I go if I want to read Ascendence of a Bookworm?

Julias
Jun 24, 2012

Strum in a harmonizing quartet
I want to cause a revolution

What can I do? My savage
nature is beyond wild

everythingWasBees posted:

I stated it was banned and then in exchange you guys can talk about the breastfeeding isekai, but also I have literally no power over this thread, said that as a joke, and I read all the poo poo that's problematic and unwholesome anyway short of the revenge rape fantasies.

In short, it's fine to talk about it here

1st Stage Midboss
Oct 29, 2011

thetoughestbean posted:

Where should I go if I want to read Ascendence of a Bookworm?

J-Novel Club has licensed the novels and the manga, they're on Bookwalker, Amazon, etc. You can read pre-pub chapters if you have a J-Novel Club subscription, but they don't keep the archives up.

Julias
Jun 24, 2012

Strum in a harmonizing quartet
I want to cause a revolution

What can I do? My savage
nature is beyond wild

everythingWasBees posted:

it shows up there and in a flashback to what happened and then never again afaik

I made my earlier post based on the discussion around it, and skimming it, it's not really advocating for it, but it's not really a one off joke. It's a central plot point that's dwelt on for a few chapters, and involves the MC being indirectly coerced and knowingly trying to have sex with the beast, who, unlike the beast in Beauty and the Beast, who is sapient beast, is basically just a huge wolf/dog here and acts like one. It also gets called back to a few times, and the plot hasn't dismissed the possibility of further mating attempts in the future.

With that said, nothing graphic is shown, and it's not like it's something being advocated for by the author, so something like a content warning would probably suffice in discussing it.

But that kind of gets into another issue, which is:

thetoughestbean posted:

“Wholesome isekai” is an unattainable goal and really the two threads should be rolled into one

My understanding is that the split in the two threads was primarily to keep the crappy power fantasy isekai that prominitely feature slavery and rape elements trained to their own thread so that awful discussions of those elements would stay over there and not reemerge into multi-page arguments, as well as to not surprise or upset anyone reading this thread with those elements being discussed, possibly at great detail.

But then that gets into the issue of people who find a lot of the sex chat, or jokes about beastiality, wildly uncomfortable as well. I don't want to be prudish and stifle conversations unless they are going in an awful direction, but my point is that people are going to have different moral standards that upset them, and no matter what you decree "off limits" to discussion, there's probably going to be some degrees of discomfort with some of the materials that get posted in either of these threads.

I don't think unifying threads really solves this issue, it just leaves more people feeling uncomfortable about the subject matter that they find discomforting. But I also don't think that making a ton of mega threads makes a lot of sense either.

In many cases, I think spinning off some of these series into their own threads might be the most beneficial avenue, as it allows for people who want to discuss it to do so at great length without tiptoeing around the subject matter, and for people who find it disconcerting to ignore it altogether.

Artificer
Apr 8, 2010

You're going to try ponies and you're. Going. To. LOVE. ME!!
Oh okay that's
Not for me then i think

Literally Kermit
Mar 4, 2012
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Punch Princess, on the other hand, is extremely my jam.

Huzzah!
Sep 15, 2007

Malnutrition is scarier than any beastie.
speaking of princesses who punch, new Yakuza Reincarnation
a nice relaxing day of fishing.

Artificer
Apr 8, 2010

You're going to try ponies and you're. Going. To. LOVE. ME!!

Literally Kermit posted:

Punch Princess, on the other hand, is extremely my jam.

Do you mean can i ask you just one question? Because yeah its dope

Literally Kermit
Mar 4, 2012
t

Huzzah! posted:

speaking of princesses who punch, new Yakuza Reincarnation
a nice relaxing day of fishing.

Correction, Punch Princess and Yakuza Punch Princess are super extremely my jam.

And entirely wholesome.

Sindai
Jan 24, 2007
i want to achieve immortality through not dying
I should be expecting The Joke in Yakuza Reincarnation by now but the mermaid still got me

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




If it came from here, then oops, but I've found another good villainess one.

The Most Heretical Last Boss Queen Who Will Become the Source of Tragedy Will Devote Herself for the Sake of the People

I am now officially a mark for 'I'm the Final Boss' reincarnation stories.

I want a reverse isekai of an elf coming to our world and destroying capitalism and restoring the planet after we've hosed it up for so long.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
lol she decides based on pretty much nothing that fate is set and the game events are preordained, and is then is somehow oblivious when this is proved untrue.

Clarste
Apr 15, 2013

Just how many mistakes have you suffered on the way here?

An uncountable number, to be sure.
That happens in like 70% of these stories at least.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose
Yeah, most of the time there'd be no story if the reincarnated villainess/final boss decided her fate was changeable and just hosed off to spend her life fly fishing or something.

Come to that, there's probably an I'm the Final Boss, But I'd Rather Be Fly Fishing with My Demon Sidekick isekai waiting to be translated.

Nemo2342
Nov 26, 2007

Have A Day




Nap Ghost

gimme the GOD drat candy posted:

lol she decides based on pretty much nothing that fate is set and the game events are preordained, and is then is somehow oblivious when this is proved untrue.

It's definitely a little forced in this one; I find her guilt over her "past" actions to be much more believable as motivation.

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




I'm also looking forward for the villainess subgenre to be an existing idea in these stories like zombies isekai and time travel are already.

Clarste
Apr 15, 2013

Just how many mistakes have you suffered on the way here?

An uncountable number, to be sure.

RareAcumen posted:

I'm also looking forward for the villainess subgenre to be an existing idea in these stories like zombies isekai and time travel are already.

Oh, I've seen that a couple of times already. Like, "Did I reincarnate as a villainess like in all those stories?! But I don't know the story I'm in right now! I should've listened more to my otaku friend!" kinda thing.

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

Yeah, most of the time there'd be no story if the reincarnated villainess/final boss decided her fate was changeable and just hosed off to spend her life fly fishing or something.

Come to that, there's probably an I'm the Final Boss, But I'd Rather Be Fly Fishing with My Demon Sidekick isekai waiting to be translated.

I mean, "Villainess slow life" is also already a thing. Although usually the idea is that they intentionally get themselves exiled and disowned first so they have no responsibilities. And then like the entire story is composed of people from their old life trying to get them back.

Clarste fucked around with this message at 11:22 on Sep 24, 2020

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
bakarina decided to test how far the predetermination went before coming to any conclusions. i repeat, bakarina is more perceptive and clever than this girl.

Clarste
Apr 15, 2013

Just how many mistakes have you suffered on the way here?

An uncountable number, to be sure.
Oh yeah, that one was particularly stupid, no doubt.

Edit: Something I see a lot in Korean versions is that the reincarnatee ends up in a relationship with the male lead of the story but assumes that he's destined to fall in love with the female lead so she tries to distance herself from him (which never works and instead just causes lots of a drama).

Paper Lion
Dec 14, 2009




what have been some good isekai/vrmmo shows lately that arent full of slave rape, and arent boring like the defense girl or the one where the two kids get reborn and are exceptions to how magic works and its really badly animated. please help. thank you

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
that's just the signature move of korean shoujo- the false relationship which turns real after a truly impressive amount of drama.

LorneReams
Jun 27, 2003
I'm bizarre

Paper Lion posted:

what have been some good isekai/vrmmo shows lately that arent full of slave rape, and arent boring like the defense girl or the one where the two kids get reborn and are exceptions to how magic works and its really badly animated. please help. thank you

I like the wise man’s grandson one.

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Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Paper Lion posted:

what have been some good isekai/vrmmo shows lately that arent full of slave rape, and arent boring like the defense girl or the one where the two kids get reborn and are exceptions to how magic works and its really badly animated. please help. thank you
sao alternative, re:zero, ascendance of a bookworm?

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