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I've read the first 100-200 pages of infinite jest, I think, not including the footnotes. Better than the 2 or 3 Le Guin books I've read by a mile
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roomforthetuna posted:you clearly prefer prose-driven writers. lol
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:Making fiction that mocks "fantasy tropes" is a waste of time that could have spent on writing on something that matters. The section about the astrologer in Rasselas, Prince of Abyssinia is a more ruthless treatment of fantasy than anything Pratchett ever managed, and it's not even trying to mock fantasy tropes. BravestOfTheLamps posted:The number one problem is that genre authors think that having an aliens or magic a book is exciting. You know, people poopoo bravest of the lamps, but these are some very good owns
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Very Good Genre Fiction Herbert Dick (forgive me, nvr read) Vonnegut (so good he doesn't even count as genre?) Gaiman Good Genre Fiction: Hobb Butler Fence Riding Genre Fiction GRRM Anthony Pratchett Bad Genre Fiction: Duane Heinlein Chrighton Very Bad Genre Fiction: Vance Fiest Hamilton Extremely Bad Genre Fiction: Any given genre novel
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Feb 7, 2019 01:39
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Labes for days posted:I’m assuming by Anthony you mean Piers Anthony? Yes. He's basically a fantasy Heinlein, but I up-rated him because if you read the afterwords of his novels, he is extremely self aware of what he is
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Labes for days posted:No wonder you think those are “good owns”. Lmbo, what can I say? They're true and people don't want to hear them. The perfect owns
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Feb 7, 2019 02:03
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:Ethical and psychological complexities collapse into adolescent fantasy. This is Assassin’s Apprentice in a nutshell. Say wot mate?
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:The novel doesn't do justice to the moral and ethical complexities of assassination, and instead wastes the whole theme in the service of teenage fantasy. I can't argue too hard with that. You're right on the money with the lack of moral complexity. There is one scene where he's drubbing a kid for information and he's like "this is just like when I was tortured". The introspection only last for 3 pages or so and then poof. I guess my soft argument would be that the books aren't really about him as an assassin. I don't think we actually have a scene of him assassinating anyone, just killing in hot blood or, one time, giving a woman boils. As an assassin, all the successes are related and we see only his failures. If anything, it's about him not being an assassin. At the end of the trilogy he's finally freed himself from the monarchy almost, and he can live as his own man, sort of.
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I can't wait for Hobb to hurry up and have her ghost writer start the new trilogy
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