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I bet rhe company treated this guy like poo poo until he had a breakdown. Too bad for the employees but I bet the company got what it deserved
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Rad-daddio posted:Nah, I'm sure the kids are handling it juuuust fine- Kids are such wusses now. Back in my day we dealt with the threat of nuclear annihilation and race riots just fine. Maybe we need a new Red Dawn movie but about school shooters instead of the commies
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Feb 16, 2019 05:21
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Colonel Cancer posted:Our society breeds the kind of mental illness that causes people to go out and shoot people for no good reason. Say what you will about medieval murder rates and poo poo, but I bet all of those people deserved it unlike innocent bystanders that get killed today. How do you know there was no good reason? Seems a little presumptuous to just label the guy mentally ill simply because you personally don't know why it happened
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Feb 16, 2019 05:24
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Hmm X is making my life miserable, so I'm going to kill X. Now imagine X is a company instead of a person. Doesn't sound so unreasonable to me. It's a bad thing to do, but I can understand why they did it
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Feb 16, 2019 05:31
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Confirmed that the shooter was a loyal employee of the company for 15 years but who was about to be fired Victims: Clayton Parks of Elgin, human resources manager Trevor Wehner of DeKalb, human resources intern and Northern Illinois University student Russell Beyer of Yorkville, mold operator Vicente Juarez of Oswego, stockroom attendant and forklift operator Josh Pinkard of Oswego, plant manager
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Feb 16, 2019 23:24
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All but one of the victims was white. The one was white Hispanic
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Feb 17, 2019 00:38
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onedayholiday posted:that sort of lack of commitment is probably why he was let go You forgot the 5 police who were hit, probably saved by their body armor. Reportedly the guy had only a handgun. Hell of a pistol round
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Feb 17, 2019 00:40
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soy posted:I heard it was a 40mm that he shouldn’t have had due to being a felon. Failure to confiscate a registered firearm from a felon and now 5 innocent people are dead. gently caress. Well, 2-3 innocent people...
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Feb 17, 2019 04:43
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soy posted:Wow so edgy Are you jumping in to defend HR managers now?
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Feb 17, 2019 04:51
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When I said pistol round I was not referring to the literal round fired by his pistol
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Feb 17, 2019 04:59
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Also upon further research, it seems the shooter shot only 4 police. The other wounded one was just hit by fragments. And the 6th guy tripped and hurt his knee lol
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Feb 17, 2019 05:01
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From looking at his photos, the shooter seems like a good guy.
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Feb 17, 2019 05:20
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fishing with the fam posted:Some people thing unions are the best course for ensuring people don't get unjustly fired. Have you instead considered knowing that any employee you may fire could potentially be packing heat? Better make sure you really want to fire them. Guns work as an effective deterrent against both theft and also wage theft
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Feb 17, 2019 05:32
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Feb 17, 2019 13:55
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Klyith posted:that's why you send your HR minions to do the dirty work, while you sit back in your corner office and jerk yourself while you think about the bonuses for such big improvement in next quarter's profit This guy shot the plant manager too
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Feb 17, 2019 14:15
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Nooner posted:I think you shouldnt shoot people in general like its cool if you are playing a video game or if you are like 100 yesrs old and were shooting nazis or the Japanese or whatever but other than that you shouldnt shoot people that is my stance on gun violence Wow so edgy
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Feb 17, 2019 17:15
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Burt Sexual posted:What about those guys that burn people alive in cages? You shouldn't burn people either imo
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Feb 17, 2019 17:18
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Burning people is bad but the desire to defend your religion and people I can sympathize with
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Feb 17, 2019 17:27
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Is it really a mental illness to shoot your boss after he fires you?
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Feb 17, 2019 17:44
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Shooting your boss is actually the opposite of broke brains: it's woke brains
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Feb 17, 2019 19:42
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Relayer posted:Yeah but no matter how unfairly you've been treated by the system killing random coworkers who are subject to the same poo poo deal as you is kind of a dick move, right? I mean god I hope so. He was aiming to kill the company. Unfortunately, a company is made up of people
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Feb 17, 2019 20:01
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Relayer posted:killing people who have nothing to do with your circumstance has to be off the table right? Employees of the company you are trying to kill aren't people who have nothing to do with your target, the company, any more than enemy soldiers who you've personally never interacted with have nothing to do with the organization they represent, the enemy nation and its military. Companies are made up primarily of people. This guy was attacking the company by attacking its constituent parts. I'm not saying what he did was good, but his reasoning isn't entirely off base.
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Feb 18, 2019 03:49
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Caesar Saladin posted:shooting someone with a gun because you're mad at them is only really reasonable to americans Well, substitute knife or broken bottle for your country
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Feb 18, 2019 04:02
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Burt Sexual posted:You’re really go down the 420 people dead in 69 seconds with a bottle, could happen? Stfu He was talking about how the feeling of wanting to kill someone who deeply upset him is somehow an American thing, and not a human universal. And you can't exactly say that getting mad and stabbing someone is not a common occurrence in other nations such as Britain
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Feb 18, 2019 04:21
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Sjs00 posted:Lol are we seriously arguing that other Countries somehow have citizens as thoroughly armed and as equally sensitive trigger happy pissbabies as the good Ole? Nobody has said that at all? How about trying to follow the conversation instead of going off on weird rants
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Feb 18, 2019 05:21
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There's actually been multiple workplace shooters who try to kill their boss/corporate officers but it turns out that the people that high up have flexible schedules and don't actually do that much work so most of the time they're simply not around when the shooting goes down
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Feb 18, 2019 05:26
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Sjs00 posted:So if someone shoots OXBALLS DOT COM because the boss fires them he'd die thinking " eh he's not entirely off base" I would have shot him with my concealed carry pistol and thus have not been shot myself. But afterwards, yes, I would think "man this guy got a raw deal and I just stood by and allowed it to happen, which was wrong."
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Feb 18, 2019 05:58
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Caesar Saladin posted:nerd alert, sound the alarms whoop whoop whoop *draws gun and fires wildly at the alarms*
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Feb 18, 2019 06:08
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Workplace shootings are the price we pay for an unjust society
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Feb 18, 2019 06:12
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Captain Beans posted:Moridin’s comment about serfs got me thinking (lol). Anyone know of any good books on the history of rampage killings? https://www.amazon.com/Going-Postal-Rebellion-Workplaces-Columbine/dp/1932360824
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Feb 18, 2019 15:04
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The Protagonist posted:It's very true that, in perhaps the greatest irony in history, our technological connectivity has actually shattered and atomized communities into hermetically sealed amplification chambers until our actual ability to engage in discourse will atrophy to the point that our only recourse is violent reeducation lol That and also all alternative ideologies have been so thoroughly suppressed that the suffering people have literally no framework to place their dissatisfaction in, so they end up just exploding into individual violence instead of organizing or forming movements. Which is by design.
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Feb 18, 2019 16:41
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Constantly forcing people to move every few years for work, the pervasive media campaigns against organized religion or any other form of communal identity, economic pressures to force two-income households to reduce the amount of time parents spend with their children, etc. Is all part of this, too.
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Feb 18, 2019 16:45
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The Protagonist posted:It's not all doom n' gloom though, since the framework "Hey maybe the obscenely wealthy should pay a little back into society before we all die of hunger, preventable illness and a poisoned atmosphere?" is a pretty straightforward one that a lot of people seem to be finally coming around to. What are you, some sort of hippie pinko dumbass? Socialism killed more people than Hitler maaaan. The free market is incontrovertible scientific fact. This is the knee-jerk reaction of pretty much everyone over a certain age, the end result of decades of media control, social engineering, and a comprehensive routing of American academia. So these people end up going on lone wolf shooting sprees
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Captain Beans posted:Not because you decide to take your rage out on whoever you can get your hands on nearby. That's when it's time for a good ol fashioned pogrom
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