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curiousCat posted:I think I'll assist with reconstruction of the inventors' guild for now. I started to rebuild but didn't get very far so I went to join up with the CLA since everyone else was far away. If there becomes anything I can do to help rebuild let me know and I'll head over as my commitments here are done.
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jimmydalad posted:Also, part of the reason the reds got so pissed off was that Sa kept on prioritising Blues in their eyes. The Oasis being upgraded, for example, I still think it’s weird they got so pissed about this when Vermillion was one of the main people who helped make that decision.
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Jun 7, 2019 22:38
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Asiina posted:Why is either side being exiled? Why should people have to leave their homes? An influx of an Age's refugees is a lot for any of the current Ages to handle and for what purpose? That’s how it has to be
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Jun 7, 2019 22:56
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Asiina posted:I don't really see how reforms that are supposed to affect all Dwellers will be lasting if half are not even going to be present for their passing? Have you been listening to Zeal’s plan at all?
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Jun 7, 2019 22:59
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Prince of Space posted:
Burgundy can’t be left in charge, you know that
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Jun 7, 2019 23:00
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Asiina posted:Yes, I have. Do you even know what you're supporting? It doesn’t seem like you have! I’m supporting the best realistic outcome out of a really bad situation.
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Jun 7, 2019 23:05
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Murmur Twin posted:Is his clock status still the same as it was yesterday? Same age, different location, no longer cold!
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Jun 7, 2019 23:57
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Murmur Twin posted:Is he at Base Camp? Feel free to just answer that with a "yes" or "no". No, not at base camp. I can tell you specifically if you want, I just don’t know what y’all are up to so I don’t know how secret from anyone here in general it needs to be.
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Jun 8, 2019 00:08
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jimmydalad posted:Is Aosa ok? I’m doing alright!
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Jun 8, 2019 00:09
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jimmydalad posted:I’m probably being optimistic, but is there a way to temporarily halt the fighting? If CLA leader leads blues, maybe call a ceasefire a day or two? I don’t know, exiling an entire faction just rings so many bad warning bells for me. There is no way to have peace without a faction being the victor, and the losing faction will get exiled. That’s just the reality of the situation
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Jun 8, 2019 00:18
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Snooze Cruise posted:Its worth a shot. Sure if that can be swung? Perfect. But the situation as I’ve seen it wont allow for that. I’d love to be wrong
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Jun 8, 2019 00:21
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Prince of Space posted:Now the Channelwood Liberation Army and the blues of the Oasis are the same entity, and they seek to crush and oust the reds of the Lookout. The CLA literally offered to let the Reds be declared victors in the war if you would oust Burgundy from power but yes there must be some pro blue conspiracy afoot. Come on.
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Jun 8, 2019 21:06
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Jun 8, 2019 22:00
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KhediveRex posted:I hope the Choctic and their Sa allies treat the Blue's more gentley then the Blue's treated us. 
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Jun 9, 2019 05:19
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Krysmphoenix posted:Really just...dont exile each other? It’s really annoying that people keep saying crap like this like we are some idiots who just didn’t think of this option
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Jun 9, 2019 20:52
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Krysmphoenix posted:I understand that, but any kind of peace for the foreseeable future requires both sides to learn how to stop fighting when the war ends. Any resentment is just going to cause another war. And I don’t think you realize that that’s not an option! There can be no peace without a winning faction and the losing faction is to be exiled. I’ve said it multiple times and I don’t know how I can make it any clearer.
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Jun 9, 2019 21:06
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Krysmphoenix posted:There is no winning faction. War does not create winners. Only widows and orphans. As someone who was kidnapped off Riven I’m well aware of what that looks like. But you refuse to accept the reality of the situation, which is, let me say again, no peace can happen without a distinct winning faction. You can try to give me the moral high ground all you want, but I am telling you your lofty high minded ideals are literally not possible or we would be pushing for that! I came here, being neither blue nor red, to try to find the most peaceful resolution possible. If it were up to me we would draft a ceasefire and there would be no exiles! But it can’t be done.
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Jun 9, 2019 21:18
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Krysmphoenix posted:Then why are we tolerating a bad thing? Oh my gooooooooooooooooooooood
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Jun 9, 2019 22:18
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Krysmphoenix posted:The part we are so angry about is why this forced exile is necessary at all. Snooze Cruise posted:Wow its like I am in a game or something and like the choice I reach is already a compromise made with forces greater than ourselves. chaoslord posted:There can be no peace without a winning faction and the losing faction is to be exiled. Does this help? Because it’s been explained very clearly
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Jun 9, 2019 22:31
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Krysmphoenix posted:As far as I can tell, there seem to be three groups here. I just don't understand what you are not understanding. When the war started there were two sides: The Reds, who if they win the war will permanently exile the Blues. The Blues, who if they win the war will permanently exile the Reds. Then the CLA came and, somehow, managed to talk the Gods into letting the exile only be a month. Per Divine Instruction, there can be no peace until there is a winner declared in the war. As in, if there is no winner declared, the reds and the blues will fight forever. Literally the only way to end the fighting is for there to be a winner and then we move on to solving the aftermath.
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Jun 9, 2019 23:15
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Kashuno posted:By the way, can I just saw this Channelwood exile is the dumbest thing any idiot has ever put forth ever?  but we literally did not have any way around that choice as we explained a jillion times already so 
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Kashuno posted:Aosa, Avery, Brodsky, Salo, and Tavish. Can confirm it's not me
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Jun 11, 2019 21:33
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Kashuno posted:And then we are going to exile people for a one month truce so that way next month they can come back and start the war again. I swear I know I wasn’t here and no one wants to rehash this with me but does no one at all see how much worse this will make things? The other option was permanent exile and we didn't want to force anyone to give up their homes for forever so the month was what we managed. But then the Reds decided permanent exile for themselves so that's that I guess?
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Jun 12, 2019 23:15
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curiousCat posted:You want to burn it? Theoretically we can upgrade it, but I don't know the specifics behind that. I am ambivalent toward it, do what yall think is best
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Jun 13, 2019 00:41
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Teland posted:I'm still not sure what crime I'm being accused of Prince of Space posted:Thievery and destruction of a Descriptive Book is a serious offense, not to be taken lightly. Teland posted:But that book was already stolen, and I returned it to where it was stolen from. And I didn't actually destroy it. I mean you do know what crime you are being accused of, so stop. Teland posted:They value life just like we do. Teland posted:I truly didn't mean any harm... This is extremely hard to believe.
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Jul 1, 2019 22:10
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sniper4625 posted:I feel like I remember a rather large war that concluded with Riven quite definitively becoming no longer property of its Writer. Ancestors won’t be able to help Ciel if those people are wrong
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Jul 1, 2019 23:12
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So if I’m understanding this correctly, Kasia and Pitzae have joined Ciel on the “made it so I can’t return to Riven” list?
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Jul 3, 2019 23:18
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Kashuno posted:What do you all say we just go home and call it a year ? Would love to go home tbh
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Jul 3, 2019 23:18
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AnAnonymousIdiot posted:Welp... I know where I'm going. Ancestors watch over you, friend.
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Jul 3, 2019 23:36
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I made an art, I call it "History's greatest villains" For the non-wrestling fans, this picture was taken after Super 100% good guy Hulk Hogan turned heel and joined The Outsiders. I figured the two Varbani worked well as the Outsiders here both in a "there are two of them" and a "they aren't from here" level and that just left Hulk for Kasia. Obviously all of my "plop a face onto other picture" works are not high quality but this one is particularly rough because my computer is acting silly today
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Jul 4, 2019 00:18
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Teland posted:It sounds like Charlie Strand is using the Varbani to fight her battles the same way Choaneen tried to use the Dwellers. But one is putting in effort to prevent deaths and the other isn't. Without knowing what they're actually fighting over, that's pretty much all I have to go off of. If we could stick Strand and Choaneen in a room and let them sort out their differences without risking any other lives that would be idea. You are responsible for the death of anyone who dies today, hth
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Jul 4, 2019 00:28
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Teland posted:What did I put in motion? I don't even know what you all are doing, but I assume you all had a choice in putting whatever you decided to do. lmao
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Teland posted:Yes, and Strand is doing the same thing, minus the "trying to have her forces" prevent killing part. You're a disgrace
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Jul 4, 2019 00:37
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I think everyone will be shocked, just shocked, to hear about more betrayals
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Jul 4, 2019 00:57
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In case I die here, if anyone ever does make it to Riven, find the kids from the village in Rivenin I was defending when I was kidnapped and tell them it is because of Ciel and Pitzae that I am dead, and that my dying wish is for the kids to use the skills I taught them to avenge me by murdering the hell out of those two, thanks
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Oh and shocking no one it was Brodsky, forgot to put that out there
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Jul 4, 2019 01:05
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Krysmphoenix posted:That's my current intention. Her plan last night to prevent a full scale war didn't work out. So now I want to try my approach. I still struggle to understand how "Stop the kidnapped Varbani from going home" was supposed to stop a war, but yall can try to explain that one to me once this is all over
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Jul 11, 2019 16:17
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Krysmphoenix posted:Allow my to clarify, before this was a siege, wait the Varbani out. A bad situation, yes. As it turns out, the middle of the venn diagram of these two is just "chochtic soldiers leave Riven", because if they left there wouldn't be anyone to get hurt. PREVIEW EDIT: This basically Asiina posted:Any mercy they show in the wars that they started are of absolutely no consequence.
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busb posted:You know, there's probably a kernel of truth there. I find it hard to mourn someone so keen on destruction though. Like the invaders withdrawing their forces? What a novel concept
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Hello the following people are missing and I am looking for information on their whereabouts and/or well-being: *Keo *Melia *Lono They are children and I presume they are on Riven somewhere although there's definitely a non-zero chance that they are not. Thanks.
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