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onsetOutsider posted:yami's right, you kind of just said that toal A chain lynch is saying 'if we kill x today and they're town, we should kill y tomorrow'. What I referred to as a multi-lynch, the plurality lynch, is a whole other thing. Yami should know this.
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Bifauxnen posted:Here you go putting words in people's mouth and you wonder why you look scummy. Defending a scumbro is just one possibility, pocketing a townie is another. Maybe Jimmy is town and you as scum know he's town, so that's why you know the case is bad. Lets you look all nice and involved casing someone new instead of just lazy-voting Jimmy. Yami Fenrir posted:
Here's the literal wording in Yami's case. Hope it helps bif!
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Mar 28, 2019 13:01
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Bifauxnen posted:yeah, I did see that cause I went to go look again but I still really don't like how Toal is framing everything up like the case is only worthwhile if Yami's right about Toal AND Jimmy. I'm feeling more like Jimmy is town, he was just the first thing to get anything close to a serious case, so Toal decided to ride on in and use that to attack Yami. Nice sidestep with reasons that weren't apart of the original post and digging in bif! Because scum might be giving up the possibility of a plurality lunch, I think that scumteam is probably... Bif, Yami, and DB. I think Bif interjected to purposefully shift the conversation off of Yami ignoring the definitions of pretty basic mafia terms to try and poke holes in my case. If Onset is scum he's at least playing with me and I appreciate it but right now it sort of comes across as townie.
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Mar 28, 2019 13:11
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Bifauxnen posted:you think a lotta things I had you FOS'd before in Suffusion, I'm pretty sure you're more helpful and less dramatic as town.
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Mar 28, 2019 13:13
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Toalpaz posted:Here's the literal wording in Yami's case. Running into thread to vote me for a reason that was immediately debunked by two players.
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Mar 28, 2019 13:17
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\/o\/there are 4-5 scum players probably in thread and we're 2 hours out from deadline. 1/3 of town isn't playing, I'm town. I'm just making connections Bif.
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Mar 28, 2019 13:27
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SalTheBard posted:I'm here. Just watching how things play out What do you think of my critique of Yami's original case? Am I unreasonable for being pinged by it? Is Yami right for voting me for casing him?
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Mar 28, 2019 13:38
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Bifauxnen posted:and what is this, vote somebody or give an opinion on something would ya Yeah but I think it came from a scummy mindset. I've explained why putting in effort and casing people as scum is good, and that case on Jimmy is the perfect scum case to make on town. Casing people as scum means that the vote doesn't swing onto a scum by accident late game. It doesn't explain why Jimmy is scummy, only insinuates that Jimmy is scum for ~*~ reasons ~*~. that he doesn't explain very well, being hedgy about pushing a button is not scummy. It's worth noting that you're also voting the person who's putting a sizable amount of effort into the game, playing mafia. So that point doesn't really track well. Why is my effort bad and Yami's effort good?
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Mar 28, 2019 13:47
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I'll be more clear, if you actually thought not voting people who put in effort is a valid point then you would probably look at Yami and I and call it a town slap fight. You don't think that because I assume you have some vested interest in not reading the game in a natural way.
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Mar 28, 2019 13:50
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SalTheBard posted:I may as well get this out of the way ##vig Onset 
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Mar 28, 2019 13:50
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SolusLunes posted:You raise the gun and pull the trigger. Surprisingly, it fires correctly! Okay can we kill yamii or db for that clear scum interaction I immediately called.
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Mar 28, 2019 13:55
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Toalpaz posted:What a scum interaction between DB and Onset. Both posted to caution away from button pushing... as if they don't want town to inviggin themselves. Both don't push button.... as if they're not able to.
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Mar 28, 2019 13:55
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If Dancer day cops me or Yami or DB we would get a TON of info that would drastically increase our chances of hitting scum atm.
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Mar 28, 2019 13:59
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Bifauxnen posted:seriously though wtf is Dancer's deal rolled scum probably
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Mar 28, 2019 14:03
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Could someone at least tie DB and I?
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Mar 28, 2019 14:04
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SalTheBard posted:I feel better about Toal being town because I feel Yami and OO were cheerleading that cuddle Yeah I'd still be willing to do Yami, ideally I just want to wait until someone else is on him because there's no reason to risk multi lunches on town. I pointed out earlier that OO was playing nice with me, but it was very much in the 'this player's flipping town and end of day I wont be convinced and vote Toal.
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Mar 28, 2019 14:07
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Bifauxnen posted:wait which cuddle? You don't mean the Toal cuddle do you, cause OO was just sticking up for Toal saying how they were making more sense OO was supporting me, but earlier was voting with Yami and also obviously hedging and undermining my case while voting someone who had no discussion around them (you).
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Mar 28, 2019 14:08
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Toalpaz posted:Scum narrative: I pointed out their scum interactions during the day, in regards to out of thread OO knowledge, and scum creating a narrative where I would seem outraged to undermine people's ability to trust my casing.
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Mar 28, 2019 14:09
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I would be happy with Yami or DB to be clear and I think I caught them both with obvious early scum interactions.
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Mar 28, 2019 14:11
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Bifauxnen posted:tbf you kinda did end up sounding outraged later though (it worked and if yami flips scum I'll be really mad at him for immediately throwing something I feel very frustrated about in my face in his first post this game)
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Mar 28, 2019 14:14
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They and them please, But I was referring with the whole 'preemptively trying to stop toal from going insane like last game' bit.
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Mar 28, 2019 14:18
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First interaction is with Onset. Notably we know nothing about what came out of this question?Yami Fenrir posted:Onset do you want something cool? I suggest this: Toalpaz posted:Daycop DB or Onset I guarantee we're getting a scum result Yami runs interference: Yami Fenrir posted:How about we daycop toal instead so we know if we should lynch them when they start going insane again I point out the connections between these three players here: Toalpaz posted:So db, yami, and onset? Ok. Yami Fenrir posted:You really are grasping at straws here. Yami Fenrir posted:I'm sorry, I was too busy trying to prevent the exact same thing as last game happening to toal, lunching me, which he ironically wants to lunch me over.
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Mar 28, 2019 14:23
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The reason why I think Yami and Onset relied on the 'toal is irrational' type of defense is because I based my early content on gut reads of early scum interactions, and that's hard to attack with words and logic.
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Mar 28, 2019 14:26
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I think we might hit scum with DB too. Might be too risky if some funny person comes and drops a vote on me. But I'm here.
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Mar 28, 2019 14:40
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we got one scum, and I'm pretty sure there's a connection between Yami, DB, and Onset. I'm fine with this. Lets not risk it.
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Mar 28, 2019 14:43
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I gave Sal a vig last night.
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Mar 30, 2019 02:53
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Will you shoot Yami today Sal
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Mar 30, 2019 03:15
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##push button
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Mar 30, 2019 03:16
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SalTheBard posted:Sure. Right now or later? I guess I do want to see Yami check in, but I was just making sure you got it. Its unreliable right? So sooner is better than later so we can plan the day I guess.
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Mar 30, 2019 03:20
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The 'gunsmith' ability I got actually says it doesn't tell you it's a unreliable vig, but my ability lets me know. It might not work out.
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Mar 30, 2019 03:24
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Bifauxnen posted:uhhh... like it could blow up in his face kind of unreliable? It has a variable chance of success is what it says.
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Mar 30, 2019 03:30
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SolusLunes posted:apologies, I have fixed my typo in the post with an edit, I will now modkill myself goonspeed mod goonspeed. 
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Mar 30, 2019 04:06
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Bifauxnen posted:So how about that British Empire hey, I bet back in the old days, they had stuff like Count Duckula and Danger Mouse playing on every channel 
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Yami had the chance to check in, it's like the afternoon for them now. I just hope that means that the case is real/they're trying to focus on stopping us from making connections. I think Dancer is being incredibly suspicious atm too fyi. Waiting to see how the vig resolves I guess.
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Mar 30, 2019 18:08
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SalTheBard posted:For those that had abilities were they forced to be used at night? My ability says that I can use it. I don't have to. It seems like the one shots are up to players discretion when to use it.
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Mar 30, 2019 19:22
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Oh wow you shot Yami early in the morning, I see.
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Mar 30, 2019 19:23
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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Mar 30, 2019 23:04
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AA Dancer Nep Nep are the most suspect in my mind assuming there's a bunch of scum left. I would look at votes again and check out if there really was a multi lynch being set up via plurality
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I also gave Sal another vig? If I was scum why not silently hand it to a team mate.
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