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Wistful of Dollars
Aug 25, 2009

PB&J wanted a new thread, so giv'r.

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HackensackBackpack
Aug 20, 2007

Who needs a house out in Hackensack? Is that all you get for your money?
So, the government just came incredibly close to falling to a confidence vote because there may not have been enough Liberals in the house to defeat the motion maybe and we almost had a premature election.

https://twitter.com/CBCKatie/status/1108825221962833922
https://twitter.com/CBCKatie/status/1108827446294573066
https://twitter.com/CBCKatie/status/1108827983467503618

HackensackBackpack fucked around with this message at 22:22 on Mar 21, 2019

The Butcher
Apr 20, 2005

Well, at least we tried.
Nap Ghost
Forced into a new thread... The Americans are pushing us around and dictating our policy again!!

The Butcher fucked around with this message at 22:08 on Mar 21, 2019

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

You wore that on Halloween?
Two questions

Did the Liberals ever make any changed to C-51? I can find news article about doing "consultations" but no actual leglislation

Did the Liberals ever change the fixed election date thing? Are we doomed to another 90 day campaign period this year?

vincentpricesboner
Sep 3, 2006

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
drat that would have been sweet.

edit: losing your government based on lazy people not being at work.

JawKnee
Mar 24, 2007





You'll take the ride to leave this town along that yellow line

quote:

somebody can make a new canpol thread cause this one as gone off like a bad batch of poutine

gently caress is this

poutine doesn't go off it gets soggy and cold

Moist von Lipwig
Oct 28, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
Tortured By Flan

DariusLikewise posted:

Two questions

Did the Liberals ever make any changed to C-51? I can find news article about doing "consultations" but no actual leglislation

Did the Liberals ever change the fixed election date thing? Are we doomed to another 90 day campaign period this year?

I could be misremembering but didn't the supreme court strike down a bunch of it? M not sure there was much left to change.

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
Fun Shoe

JawKnee posted:

gently caress is this

poutine doesn't go off it gets soggy and cold

oh friend you've never seen the abominations that americans make of poutine

https://twitter.com/BostonMagazine/status/877965918827143169

HackensackBackpack
Aug 20, 2007

Who needs a house out in Hackensack? Is that all you get for your money?

zapplez posted:

drat that would have been sweet.

edit: losing your government based on lazy people not being at work.

They set up cots!

https://twitter.com/PierrePoilievre/status/1108474951315550208

Also, the Prime Minister did probably the worst thing of his tenure so far.

https://twitter.com/ziannlum/status/1108491545370599425

But seriously, this is all for Opposition Day, which would have been Monday, but their 257-vote marathon would have delayed the SNC Lavalin coverup budget so they moved it to Wednesday. I think it's still going.

I was ready to get photoshopping the leaders again. We did a medieval theme last election and this year I'm suggesting we go sci-fi. Dystopian or no is the quandry I'm having right now.

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011
Definitely dystopian except for John Horgan in a Star Trek uniform.

The Butcher
Apr 20, 2005

Well, at least we tried.
Nap Ghost

Leofish posted:

I was ready to get photoshopping the leaders again. We did a medieval theme last election and this year I'm suggesting we go sci-fi. Dystopian or no is the quandry I'm having right now.

Alpha Centaurai theme?

There's an obvious fit for the greens, debatable where to slot the rest in.

A Typical Goon
Feb 25, 2011

Party Plane Jones posted:

oh friend you've never seen the abominations that americans make of poutine

https://twitter.com/BostonMagazine/status/877965918827143169

I usually think Canadians get too worked up about the definition of poutine but not a single dish pictured looks even close to poutine :crossarms:

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
Fun Shoe

A Typical Goon posted:

I usually think Canadians get too worked up about the definition of poutine but not a single dish pictured looks even close to poutine :crossarms:

quote:

It’s as if restaurants have collectively decided that poutine is just a mound of stuff with other stuff on it, so long as there is cheese somewhere. This isn’t cultural appropriation. It’s cultural barf.

Pinterest Mom
Jun 9, 2009

DariusLikewise posted:

Two questions

Did the Liberals ever make any changed to C-51? I can find news article about doing "consultations" but no actual leglislation

Did the Liberals ever change the fixed election date thing? Are we doomed to another 90 day campaign period this year?
1. Yeah, bill C-59. It's currently in committee in the Senate awaiting third reading. Not great!
https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/tim-mcsorley/liberals-bill-c-59-national-security-promises_a_23434631/

2. No, but we're not doomed to a 90 day campaign. They could call the election as late as early September for a just over a month long campaign, but also at any time ahead of that.

ghosthorse
Dec 15, 2011

...you forget so easily...
In fun Canadian anecdote news yesterday I got yelled at by a far-right dude for like 40 minutes about everything from how the second amendment is great and we need to make sure we keep it to how jordan peterson is a genius and ben shapiro can't be on the side of nationalists because "HE'S A JEW!" so that was neat

edit: in case you couldn't tell he was white and over 60

cougar cub
Jun 28, 2004

Mr MacDonald mr McLeod mr morissey mr tan mr wayland madame fortier mr Rogers miss Findley mr fast miss rempel mr Chung mr lake mr Anderson

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


The Butcher posted:

Forced into a new thread... The Americans are pushing us around and dictating our policy again!!

The worst part is, this time burning down the whitehouse would be doing them a favor.

HackensackBackpack
Aug 20, 2007

Who needs a house out in Hackensack? Is that all you get for your money?

ghosthorse posted:

In fun Canadian anecdote news yesterday I got yelled at by a far-right dude for like 40 minutes about everything from how the second amendment is great and we need to make sure we keep it to how jordan peterson is a genius and ben shapiro can't be on the side of nationalists because "HE'S A JEW!" so that was neat

edit: in case you couldn't tell he was white and over 60

Does he mean pre-1982 or post-1982, because if it's the former, I don't think B.C. is going anywhere any time soon, and if it's the latter, I have bad news because the Representation Act of 1985 was replaced by the Fair Representation Act of 2011 so

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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I don't get it how do you gently caress up poutine

You make french fries, sprinkle cheese curds on it, and pour gravy on top. That's it. Then you have poutine.

It's not like some sort of complicated souffle

Development
Jun 2, 2016

Fojar38 posted:

I don't get it how do you gently caress up poutine

You make french fries, sprinkle cheese curds on it, and pour gravy on top. That's it. Then you have poutine.

It's not like some sort of complicated souffle

at la banquise you can get the south west poutine

it has...industrial grade guac.

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

You wore that on Halloween?
There's a new place in Winnipeg called Leopold's Tavern that serves a 4lb punchbowl of poutine




Pinterest Mom posted:

1. Yeah, bill C-59. It's currently in committee in the Senate awaiting third reading. Not great!
https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/tim-mcsorley/liberals-bill-c-59-national-security-promises_a_23434631/

2. No, but we're not doomed to a 90 day campaign. They could call the election as late as early September for a just over a month long campaign, but also at any time ahead of that.

1. That's balls

2. God I hope I don't have to sit through Andrew Scheer campaigning for 90 days before his eventual minority government

tagesschau
Sep 1, 2006
Guten Abend, meine Damen und Herren.

Wistful of Dollars posted:

PB&J prorogued the thread, so giv'r.

Ardent Communist
Oct 17, 2010

ALLAH! MU'AMMAR! LIBYA WA BAS!
Just making a post for the new thread, stressing that all of our problems would be solved with a communist revolution that strips the rich of their undeserved wealth, making a more equitable society that would see greater democracy in the workplace and in our communities.
It's scary how few people can see how the entire world has lost its way with the collapse of the Soviet Union, lost its optimism for the future to be replaced with constant backstabbing and pessimism. Even the heart of capitalism, the United States, had to be better and promise better things in the future to placate the masses. Without the counterweight, capitalism is unrestricted in its rapaciousness.

Stickarts
Dec 21, 2003

literally

Sad to see the old thread go. There's legit half a decade of really strong effort posts I crib from all the time in there. IDG why CanPol has this reputation for being poisonous. I don't feel like we get any more petty/spiteful than any other thread of longtime users cooped up together? In fact, I feel like there is a cadre of posters who consistently elevate the discourse in a way that other threads just don't have. Wish I had the energy and time to try to add to that more consistently.

And speaking to fiscal matters - yeah, I have personally run the gamut. Homeless for a few months, working 60 hour weeks in the trades at just above minimum wage, lived for years in poverty - and directly adjacent to the more hardcore, transgenerational, racialised poverty, and now I have joined the middle class as a teacher. Life is fundamentally different on the bottom rungs in a way you simply can't begin to understand unless you have experienced it. There is a sense of hopelessness and desperation - like you're trapped at a bottom of a well looking up at the sky - that filters through into pretty much every life decision and thought process you make.

I make~75th percentile provincial wage now, and I almost feel guilty. Still haven't gotten used to the instant comfort my salary offers me, and frankly I hope I never do. All those stressors and fears and "oh I guess I'm having water and rice for supper again" nights just disappear. I don't have to make 5 dollars stretch at the grocery store. I just buy what I want, and if I am a little short at the end of the month, well I just dip into a savings account that I literally never had before.



The fact that isolation/mental health/poverty are all intimately tied up together seems blindingly self-evident to me.

Stickarts fucked around with this message at 04:46 on Mar 22, 2019

Stickarts
Dec 21, 2003

literally

DariusLikewise posted:

There's a new place in Winnipeg called Leopold's Tavern that serves a 4lb punchbowl of poutine


Leopold's is a Regina thing and the brainchild of a hanger-on/family member of a local billionaire, inspired by the bar the billionaire built for his own personal use next to his summer house just outside of Regina. I was a carpenter with the family business for a while.

I ended up renovating the bar for him and wrote "eat the rich" and drew guillotines in the stud cavities all over. It was impotently cathartic. I quit pretty quick after.

Ron Paul Atreides
Apr 19, 2012

Uyghurs situation in Xinjiang? Just a police action, do not fret. Not ongoing genocide like in EVIL Canada.

I am definitely not a tankie.
I am out of the loop here how did we end up with this marathon vote thing

Pinterest Mom
Jun 9, 2009

Ron Paul Atreides posted:

I am out of the loop here how did we end up with this marathon vote thing

CPC are doing maximal procedural obstruction until the LPC lets JWR and Jane Philpott speak.

Ron Paul Atreides
Apr 19, 2012

Uyghurs situation in Xinjiang? Just a police action, do not fret. Not ongoing genocide like in EVIL Canada.

I am definitely not a tankie.

Pinterest Mom posted:

CPC are doing maximal procedural obstruction until the LPC lets JWR and Jane Philpott speak.

So this is a thing opposition parties can just do? Like wow, did anyone try this to shut down any of Harper's bullshit?

Pinterest Mom
Jun 9, 2009

Not always (I am not a Commons procedure expert), but the NDP did force a ~24 hour voting marathon over the 2012 budget.

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

I didn't eat a bag of chips, I ate "fiddle faddle".

Vintersorg
Mar 3, 2004

President of
the Brendan Fraser
Fan Club



Basically gently caress chain “pubs”. Winnipeg had way better food stops.

Risky Bisquick
Jan 18, 2008

PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.



Buglord

Stickarts posted:

Sad to see the old thread go. There's legit half a decade of really strong effort posts I crib from all the time in there. IDG why CanPol has this reputation for being poisonous. I don't feel like we get any more petty/spiteful than any other thread of longtime users cooped up together? In fact, I feel like there is a cadre of posters who consistently elevate the discourse in a way that other threads just don't have. Wish I had the energy and time to try to add to that more consistently.

And speaking to fiscal matters - yeah, I have personally run the gamut. Homeless for a few months, working 60 hour weeks in the trades at just above minimum wage, lived for years in poverty - and directly adjacent to the real hardcore, transgenerational, racialised poverty, and now I have joined the middle class as a teacher. Life is fundamentally different on the bottom rungs in a way you simply can't begin to understand unless you have experienced it. There is a sense of hopelessness and desperation - like you're trapped at a bottom of a well looking up at the sky - that filters through into pretty much every life decision and thought process you make.

I make~75th percentile provincial wage now, and I almost feel guilty. Still haven't gotten used to the instant comfort my salary offers me, and frankly I hope I never do. All those stressors and fears and "oh I guess I'm having water and rice for supper again" nights just disappear. I don't have to make 5 dollars stretch at the grocery store. I just buy what I want, and if I am a little short at the end of the month, well I just dip into a savings account that I literally never had before.



The fact that isolation/mental health/poverty are all intimately tied up together seems blindingly self-evident to me.

It’s hard for people of privilege to realize how easy they have things. Don’t forget where you came from and to tip generously, donate/volunteer to orgs that deal with poverty and hunger, or your flavour of social issue.

HackensackBackpack
Aug 20, 2007

Who needs a house out in Hackensack? Is that all you get for your money?

Ron Paul Atreides posted:

So this is a thing opposition parties can just do? Like wow, did anyone try this to shut down any of Harper's bullshit?

The NDP did something similar in 2011 over back-to-work legislation for Canada Post.

This time around, the Tories wanted to do this to delay the budget, because their Opposition Day was originally Monday, but the Liberals moved their day to Wednesday to let the budget pass relatively on time. The CPC is moving 257 fiscal motions--all confidence votes (which is why the government almost fell this afternoon)--until the PM allows Jody Wilson-Raybould and/or Jane Philpott to comment further on the SNC Lavalin thing, especially after the Justice committee shut it down this week. Justice is done with the file, but the Tories now want Ethics to hear from JWR.

Maneck
Sep 11, 2011

Leofish posted:

The NDP did something similar in 2011 over back-to-work legislation for Canada Post.

This time around, the Tories wanted to do this to delay the budget, because their Opposition Day was originally Monday, but the Liberals moved their day to Wednesday to let the budget pass relatively on time. The CPC is moving 257 fiscal motions--all confidence votes (which is why the government almost fell this afternoon)--until the PM allows Jody Wilson-Raybould and/or Jane Philpott to comment further on the SNC Lavalin thing, especially after the Justice committee shut it down this week. Justice is done with the file, but the Tories now want Ethics to hear from JWR.

The Conservatives seem to have decided this is an issue they can win on. The issue being the cover up, mind, not the underlying supposed scandal itself. My money is on them having miscalculated.

If the Conservatives had targeted the incredibly cynical Liberal claim they had to end the investigation to urgently deal with hate crime, fine. They seem to have decided instead to claim that witnesses should have been recalled over and over until the underlying "scandal" turned into an actual scandal. The problem is on that point, the Liberals made the right call in letting everyone testify, and even allowing one witness to testify multiple times. The opposition demands to call witnesses over and over can be cast as being what happened in the US with the Benghazi investigations. And the Liberals won't be shy to compare the Conservatives to the Republicans.

Now, if anyone wants to enlighten me on the claim that Trudeau has morphed into some anti-feminist, I would appreciate it. Something to do with Ms. Caesar-Chavannes saying Mr. Trudeau yelled at her (without mentioning over what)? The opposition choice to scream non-stop in the house of commons for days is going to make it tough to argue that one politician yelling at another is anything out of the ordinary, but perhaps I just don't get their point.

Lobok
Jul 13, 2006

Say Watt?

JWR and Philpott also don't seem like they're on the kind of warpath that Conservatives would want. Philpott said today or yesterday something like "of course I don't want Scheer as PM but I want the Liberals to be the best version of the Liberals".

utofukoku
Feb 13, 2019

by FactsAreUseless
Well unfortunately I'm still alive so you people can stop pretending to give a poo poo about me (e/n post for anyone curious about what happened). Normally I wouldn't bother posting to let anyone know but I actually feel pretty bad for Lightning Knight (and nobody else). I assume this account is going to be permabanned just like my last one and any future ones I make, but I'm not going to do the avshalom thing and pay $10 a day to post in perpetuity. I'm at least glad I could help to get you people to see what a disgusting selfish peice of poo poo pt6a has always been. I hope someone else can bother to call him (and others) out on it in the future since none of you will likely hear from me again.

Stickarts
Dec 21, 2003

literally

It isn't pretend, my dude.

Postess with the Mostest
Apr 4, 2007

Arabian nights
'neath Arabian moons
A fool off his guard
could fall and fall hard
out there on the dunes

utofukoku posted:

Well unfortunately I'm still alive so you people can stop pretending to give a poo poo about me (e/n post for anyone curious about what happened). Normally I wouldn't bother posting to let anyone know but I actually feel pretty bad for Lightning Knight (and nobody else). I assume this account is going to be permabanned just like my last one and any future ones I make, but I'm not going to do the avshalom thing and pay $10 a day to post in perpetuity. I'm at least glad I could help to get you people to see what a disgusting selfish peice of poo poo pt6a has always been. I hope someone else can bother to call him (and others) out on it in the future since none of you will likely hear from me again.

Hey man. We're all kind of damaged here and you seem to be looking for some community to connect with so why not just try to tone the hostility down to like 40% and hang out?

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

utofukoku posted:

Well unfortunately I'm still alive so you people can stop pretending to give a poo poo about me (e/n post for anyone curious about what happened). Normally I wouldn't bother posting to let anyone know but I actually feel pretty bad for Lightning Knight (and nobody else). I assume this account is going to be permabanned just like my last one and any future ones I make, but I'm not going to do the avshalom thing and pay $10 a day to post in perpetuity. I'm at least glad I could help to get you people to see what a disgusting selfish peice of poo poo pt6a has always been. I hope someone else can bother to call him (and others) out on it in the future since none of you will likely hear from me again.

I am overwhelmingly glad to hear this but also gently caress you. :mad:

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utofukoku
Feb 13, 2019

by FactsAreUseless

Postess with the Mostest posted:

Hey man. We're all kind of damaged here and you seem to be looking for some community to connect with so why not just try to tone the hostility down to like 40% and hang out?

I don't have any incentive to be nice to anyone, I'm permabanned.

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